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Looks great, the bird skulls on his leg plates and the flaming runes on the feathers are really nice touches. I'm just afraid that my average at best painting skills will not do him justice. This model does make me think even more that we will see red 1k sons in 40k as Magnus loyalists, as well as the blue and gold of Ahriman's faction.
I like the miniature...
What concerns me are the implications about the return of some or all the primarchs in 40K...
To return some of them they should make some huge things to the setting or just simply [MOD EDIT - Please find a different way to express this - Alpharius] it to the core...
For example Angron was banished for 1000 years by the GK during the first war of armageddon... now if they make him come back just after few centuries will be a [MOD EDIT - Please find a different way to express this - Alpharius] of the fluff...
The Lion will return only when the Emperor will forgive the legion and reforge the sword... If the Emperor is still on the throne and Cypher still roaming and the Fallen still Unforgiven and they make Lion return they will [MOD EDIT - Please find a different way to express this - Alpharius] the setting...
And so on...
In addiction if they make only some primarchs return they will make upset they fans of the other ones... And if the returning primarchs will lead some other forces they could make some people very upset...
For Example if they return Dorn to guide the DA i will be very upset cause i think Dorn is the dumbest of all primarchs and i want it NEVER to be inn any relationship with the DA...
IMHO this is a good model but i guess will be a losing move by GW...
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What kind of rules would he have? Mastery Level 9?
FMC Mastery lvl 5
2+ 4++
Can fire the same Witchfire spells multiple times
Gets to reroll 1's on Psychic dice
Deny the Witch on 4+
Gets to choose his spells
Only Perils on Double 6's
Fear
EW FUN Tzeentch randomness
master sheol wrote: I like the miniature...
What concerns me are the implications about the return of some or all the primarchs in 40K...
To return some of them they should make some huge things to the setting or just simply rape it to the core...
For example Angron was banished for 1000 years by the GK during the first war of armageddon... now if they make him come back just after few centuries will be a raping of the fluff...
The Lion will return only when the Emperor will forgive the legion and reforge the sword... If the Emperor is still on the throne and Cypher still roaming and the Fallen still Unforgiven and they make Lion return they will rape the setting...
And so on...
In addiction if they make only some primarchs return they will make upset they fans of the other ones... And if the returning rimarchs will lead some other forces they could make some people very upset...
For Example if they return Dorn to guide the DA i will be very upset cause i think Dorn is the dumbest of all primarchs and i want it NEVER to be inn any relationship with the DA...
IMHO this is a good model but i guess will be a losing move by GW...
I think you need to go and find a dictionary and read the definition of the term "rape" for starters.
Yes if they handle the return of the Primarchs badly, they could handle the setting badly, but no more than you are handling the English language badly.
Hastings had already rumored a "Plague army release" and Mortarion (and Guilliman, Russ and Angron) a month ago. Atia mentioned a Mortarion (and Angron) release. Sounds like a similiar Death Guard 40k wave in 2017. Next will be a loyal Primarch according to Sad Panda.
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This has been the year of the retro-return. They are clearly mining their old catalog for ideas. It'd be a good bet to say they are bringing back old models. Angron, Mortarion, and Fulgrim are all likely candidates as they all had old Epic models.
If this had been released 10 years ago as a Daemon Prince for a Chaos Warriors army, you would say, that's a decent Daemon Prince, I might buy that.
But as an iconic character of 40k? Not for me.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Magnus was a Cyclops or something, but there's not hint of that here, as far as my eyes and this picture could tell.
The feet are terrible, the paint job doesn't do it justice, and although I wouldn't go as far to say it was phoned in, it's bang average IMO. The gold armour cheapens it and makes it look like an AOS figure, as though they were hedging their bets.
What a let down for such an important 40k legend...
Genestealer cult models were first class, excellent, but it's one step forward, two back. Again!
Final rating 4/10
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
If this had been released 10 years ago as a Daemon Prince for a Chaos Warriors army, you would say, that's a decent Daemon Prince, I might buy that.
But as an iconic character of 40k? Not for me.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Magnus was a Cyclops or something, but there's not hint of that here, as far as my eyes and this picture could tell.
The feet are terrible, the paint job doesn't do it justice, and although I wouldn't go as far to say it was phoned in, it's bang average IMO. The gold armour cheapens it and makes it look like an AOS figure, as though they were hedging their bets.
What a let down for such an important 40k legend...
Genestealer cult models were first class, excellent, but it's one step forward, two back. Again!
Final rating 4/10
To be fair, these are blurry photos of a box someone pulled out of a dumpster. I'm going to wait until I see it up on the webstore and in person.
Kid_Kyoto wrote: That's why I bring it up, I really think one of the reasons Fantasy was killed is GW invested too much in (very very nice) expensive kits that players would buy one of at best. The flying Vampire throne ghost army thing for example.
But will there be enough to make this profitable?
I dunno.
I'd say GW knows what they're doing but Age of Sigmar says (SCREAMS!) otherwise.
It seems GW has figured way to make plastic moulds that aren't as expensive as they used to be. Maybe at the expense of size of print run? Can't really justify making one pose HQ's or special characters in plastic like they have been doing...Oh few years now? So plastic magnus is hardly new thing. Hell Magnus probably has larger selling potential than say certain space wolf SC...
master sheol wrote: I like the miniature...
What concerns me are the implications about the return of some or all the primarchs in 40K....
I think there is a lot of potential for both really good and really bad background coming from this. The demon Primarchs should have there own agendas and not just be following Abaddons crusade. Magnus in particular should be about more than revenge against the wolves, once he's done with Fenris I could see him turning his eye to the Black legion. Any retuning loyalists would probably shake things up the most as the background is Imperium centred. I doubt the high lords and the church would be to pleased to see guys like Dorn or Gulliman coming back.
If this had been released 10 years ago as a Daemon Prince for a Chaos Warriors army, you would say, that's a decent Daemon Prince, I might buy that.
But as an iconic character of 40k? Not for me.
I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Magnus was a Cyclops or something, but there's not hint of that here, as far as my eyes and this picture could tell.
The feet are terrible, the paint job doesn't do it justice, and although I wouldn't go as far to say it was phoned in, it's bang average IMO. The gold armour cheapens it and makes it look like an AOS figure, as though they were hedging their bets.
What a let down for such an important 40k legend...
Genestealer cult models were first class, excellent, but it's one step forward, two back. Again!
Final rating 4/10
To be fair, these are blurry photos of a box someone pulled out of a dumpster. I'm going to wait until I see it up on the webstore and in person.
Fair enough, but I think the picture is fine. I appreciate the fact that even if this model were perfect, somebody would complain, that's life, but for such an iconic figure of 40k, they should have thrown the kitchen sink at this...
It feels as though it was done by the numbers. The detail is pretty standard. The gold armour looks cheap, and the pose is flat, giving us none of the dynamism that we should expect from a model of this stature...
There is none of the trickery or mutation you would expect from a Tzeentch daemon, never mind one as important as Magnus. It feels flat and lifeless.
Silver Tower had some fine Tzeentch daemons and a colour scheme worthy of the name, but red and gold is more Khorne in my view...
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
It's not some random tzeentch daemon. It's magnus the red, hint, he's supposed to be red. The gold also fits. The model pretty much looks like I would expect magnus to look like, although the pose could be a bit more exciting. I would at least expected some kind of spell effect in the hand he's stretching out for example.
DINLT: Red and brass is Khorne. Red and gold is Magnus' Legion heraldry. He's also a Daemon of Tzeentch, so he can be whatever colour you like really.
He's still a Cyclops. Though not in the traditional sense.
Red and Gold are the colours of the Thousand Sons though (and I believe the Thousand Sons that follow Magnus are still red, it's only Ahrimans that are blue right?) and he is called Magnus the red... I think the gold hasn't photographed very well and that's part of what's throwing me off atm, I agree it looks cheap, but it's either just the paint or the photo that's making it look like that. And it's never been clear if he's a cyclops with one eye in the middle or with only one eye but two sockets, I think it's quite mutable, his appearance is meant to change and shift when you look at him.
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Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: There is none of the trickery or mutation you would expect from a Tzeentch daemon, never mind one as important as Magnus. It feels flat and lifeless.
Silver Tower had some fine Tzeentch daemons and a colour scheme worthy of the name, but red and gold is more Khorne in my view...
My impression was he had that gak locked down and was a master of what change he wanted.
He's not a silver tower goon at tzeentch's command.
Plus the rubic spell that was cast to protect the thousand sons from the corruption of chaos would have captured and protected him too?
It certainly didn't turn him to dust.
Panic...
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. Feet and legs are fine 
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