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Davor wrote:
Hopefully you were able to get a discount on them. I hate to see how much that would cost you if you paid full price. As for 60 marines, what chapter are you looking at and is it 30K or 40K you going to make them into?

I never buy retail prices. That's a mug's game. So yeah, I found a way to not pay the stupid price GWOZ wants for them.

If FW made Ultramarine Cataphractii pads, I'd get some'a them. Overall I don't know what I want to do with them. Some of them will become Deathwatch, I know that, but the rest?

My fav Heresy-era Legion has always been World Eaters.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Davor wrote:
Hopefully you were able to get a discount on them. I hate to see how much that would cost you if you paid full price. As for 60 marines, what chapter are you looking at and is it 30K or 40K you going to make them into?

I never buy retail prices. That's a mug's game. So yeah, I found a way to not pay the stupid price GWOZ wants for them.

If FW made Ultramarine Cataphractii pads, I'd get some'a them. Overall I don't know what I want to do with them. Some of them will become Deathwatch, I know that, but the rest?

My fav Heresy-era Legion has always been World Eaters.

You are lucky. I have yet to find a discount retailer in Japan.

 Jamie24 wrote:
Seeing this follow up box for the Horus Heresy and it becoming even more popular amongst players/ collectors. I'm very much in anticipation of another Horus Heresy box set next year containing the standard legion specific 2 characters, the rumoured new jet bikes x3, plastic javelin attack speeder x1, x30 MK6 armour marines possibly the box would/could be based on Alpha Legion vs Raven Guard?

I'm really hoping on something along these lines, will be perfect to boost my alpha legion force..

What are people's thoughts?




J

I hope they dont do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in no mood to redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Jamie24 wrote:
Seeing this follow up box for the Horus Heresy and it becoming even more popular amongst players/ collectors. I'm very much in anticipation of another Horus Heresy box set next year containing the standard legion specific 2 characters, the rumoured new jet bikes x3, plastic javelin attack speeder x1, x30 MK6 armour marines possibly the box would/could be based on Alpha Legion vs Raven Guard?

I'm really hoping on something along these lines, will be perfect to boost my alpha legion force..

What are people's thoughts?




J

I hope they dont do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in no mood to redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

I would much rather the next game be from the midpoint in the conflict and include plastic MkVs.

 Prometheum5 wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Jamie24 wrote:
Seeing this follow up box for the Horus Heresy and it becoming even more popular amongst players/ collectors. I'm very much in anticipation of another Horus Heresy box set next year containing the standard legion specific 2 characters, the rumoured new jet bikes x3, plastic javelin attack speeder x1, x30 MK6 armour marines possibly the box would/could be based on Alpha Legion vs Raven Guard?

I'm really hoping on something along these lines, will be perfect to boost my alpha legion force..

What are people's thoughts?




J

I hope they dont do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in no mood to redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

I would much rather the next game be from the midpoint in the conflict and include plastic MkVs.

Im with you there. If it was plastic Mk V, oooh boy, I'd be all over that. I know alot of people hate Mk V, but I love it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
My fav Heresy-era Legion has always been World Eaters.

Well, that's because you have good taste.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Jamie24 wrote:
Seeing this follow up box for the Horus Heresy and it becoming even more popular amongst players/ collectors. I'm very much in anticipation of another Horus Heresy box set next year containing the standard legion specific 2 characters, the rumoured new jet bikes x3, plastic javelin attack speeder x1, x30 MK6 armour marines possibly the box would/could be based on Alpha Legion vs Raven Guard?

I'm really hoping on something along these lines, will be perfect to boost my alpha legion force..

What are people's thoughts?




J

I hope they dont do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in no mood to redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

You should reason like this: I hope they do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in mood for a new project like redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

Yep, it would be good, if we got other mk in plastic inside a similar box, but if it won't harm other releases schedule (or existence).
Plastic heresy marines is good and all, but Xenos don't get enough attention!

I don't know which box to get first.. I like the contents of Prospero more, but I'm kinda paranoid about BaC evaporating.

 Fayric wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 Jamie24 wrote:
Seeing this follow up box for the Horus Heresy and it becoming even more popular amongst players/ collectors. I'm very much in anticipation of another Horus Heresy box set next year containing the standard legion specific 2 characters, the rumoured new jet bikes x3, plastic javelin attack speeder x1, x30 MK6 armour marines possibly the box would/could be based on Alpha Legion vs Raven Guard?

I'm really hoping on something along these lines, will be perfect to boost my alpha legion force..

What are people's thoughts?




J

I hope they dont do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in no mood to redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

You should reason like this: I hope they do this, because by that point I will likely have the bulk of my Raven Guard done and be in mood for a new project like redo or swap out the Mk IV for Mk VI.

I should like bulk Mk VI yeah, but I work at such a slow rate that I doubt I will have the Army I'm gonna start with the Prospero boxes done by then, so reworking something that is done will be bothersome.

Why would you need to redo existing marines just because MK VI would be released?

It's not like every Ravenguard marine wore MK VI anyway. Probably not even the majority until perhaps after Istvaan.

It's OK to have some units in MKIII, some in MKIV, and so on.

The world won't judge you!

I will. I always will.

It seems to be a common misconception that certain legions were limited to particular armour marks. There's nothing wrong with going for a theme or preferring one mark over the other. But you really shouldn't feel like you have to use a specific mark because of your legion choice.

 Zywus wrote:
Why would you need to redo existing marines just because MK VI would be released?

It's not like every Ravenguard marine wore MK VI anyway. Probably not even the majority until perhaps after Istvaan.

Mostly because I could change the Mk IV into yet another force while making the Mk VI into the Raven Guard. 3 Armies rather than 1 big one.


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GoatboyBeta wrote:
It seems to be a common misconception that certain legions were limited to particular armour marks. There's nothing wrong with going for a theme or preferring one mark over the other. But you really shouldn't feel like you have to use a specific mark because of your legion choice.

Of that I am aware, but like I mentioned I think I'd rather have 3 forces than 1 large, I have no issue with mixed armor.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Of that I am aware, but like I mentioned I think I'd rather have 3 forces than 1 large, I have no issue with mixed armor.

I see.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
It seems to be a common misconception that certain legions were limited to particular armour marks. There's nothing wrong with going for a theme or preferring one mark over the other. But you really shouldn't feel like you have to use a specific mark because of your legion choice.

Obviously you can use whichever figures you like and make it work, but for me who's mostly interested in the fluff and hobby side, I actually wish the source material was more detailed about who had which Marks of armor when so that I could model a really specific 'accurate' force or two. I'm used to building WWII tank models, where I was adding or removing bolt heads from the fender or a tank based on the historical pictures I was using for reference. Basically, I'm a dork so I want the source material to be detailed enough to explain that kind of minutiae. Like I said before, I'm probably going to trade some sprues between my Prospero and Calth sets, because I think the 1k Sons on Prospero will look better and make more sense with MkIV armor with some FW details, and let the Wolves have the MkIIIs for their frontline assault.

GoatboyBeta wrote:
It seems to be a common misconception that certain legions were limited to particular armour marks. There's nothing wrong with going for a theme or preferring one mark over the other. But you really shouldn't feel like you have to use a specific mark because of your legion choice.

This.

It bothers me quite a bit to see that misconception. It's a form of flanderization in a way. Not as bad as in 40K with it's special-snowflake lists (apparently every single White Scar marine is welded onto a bike or land speeder even though over half of the chapter consist of tactical marines).


If anything, it would be somewhat notable for a marine force of some size around the time of the heresy to be totally uniformly armoured. Unless it's something like a newly raised company all equipped at the same time from the same shipment.

 Prometheum5 wrote:

Obviously you can use whichever figures you like and make it work, but for me who's mostly interested in the fluff and hobby side, I actually wish the source material was more detailed about who had which Marks of armor when so that I could model a really specific 'accurate' force or two. I'm used to building WWII tank models, where I was adding or removing bolt heads from the fender or a tank based on the historical pictures I was using for reference. Basically, I'm a dork so I want the source material to be detailed enough to explain that kind of minutiae. Like I said before, I'm probably going to trade some sprues between my Prospero and Calth sets, because I think the 1k Sons on Prospero will look better and make more sense with MkIV armor with some FW details, and let the Wolves have the MkIIIs for their frontline assault.

That's the thing with 40k. It's all been deliberately the opposite. Since it's entirely fictional, even when they fill in the details for specific forces in specific periods, they have left gaps for players to use their own creativity and create their own narrative for their forces. The amount of detail being filled in currently by the big HH books and the novels is about as far as it's going to go - and they will always retcon even those to make new models fit into their timelines.

 kronk wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

Of that I am aware, but like I mentioned I think I'd rather have 3 forces than 1 large, I have no issue with mixed armor.

I see.

I am debating the possibility of one large force, if I could manage to chose one Legion I like above others.

I so badly want that ahriman in my emperors children! too bad that A: he has the thousand sons shoulder pad and B: emperors children didn't like psykers

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I so badly want that ahriman in my emperors children! too bad that A: he has the thousand sons shoulder pad and B: emperors children didn't like psykers

With a hobby knife, a little green stuff to fill in detail, and a head swap, I think he'll make a very solid librarian for any legion. The SW character looks far less salvageable.

Erren wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I so badly want that ahriman in my emperors children! too bad that A: he has the thousand sons shoulder pad and B: emperors children didn't like psykers

With a hobby knife, a little green stuff to fill in detail, and a head swap, I think he'll make a very solid librarian for any legion. The SW character looks far less salvageable.

Separate head, arms, shoulderpads, backpack... This model will be easy as pie to swap stuff in or out of.

 Azazelx wrote:

Erren wrote:

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I so badly want that ahriman in my emperors children! too bad that A: he has the thousand sons shoulder pad and B: emperors children didn't like psykers

With a hobby knife, a little green stuff to fill in detail, and a head swap, I think he'll make a very solid librarian for any legion. The SW character looks far less salvageable.

Separate head, arms, shoulderpads, backpack... This model will be easy as pie to swap stuff in or out of.

It'll be great for swapping out stuff for another SW character, but it is fairly worthless for other legions. Ahriman is a little harder to work with since his shoulder pauldrons are molded on.

I'm going to make him a Deathwatch Marine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm going to make him a Deathwatch Marine.

The Space Wolf or Ahriman? Either one could be done fairly easily, but the Space Wolf would be the easier to explain. I like collecting character miniatures, so I will probably keep the Space Wolf the way he is and paint him up.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

Separate head, arms, shoulderpads, backpack... This model will be easy as pie to swap stuff in or out of.

It'll be great for swapping out stuff for another SW character, but it is fairly worthless for other legions. Ahriman is a little harder to work with since his shoulder pauldrons are molded on.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm going to make him a Deathwatch Marine.

The Space Wolf or Ahriman? Either one could be done fairly easily, but the Space Wolf would be the easier to explain. I like collecting character miniatures, so I will probably keep the Space Wolf the way he is and paint him up.

The Wolf. Ahriman gets to be Ahriman. The mini's too cool to change it.

Found this on fb

Those SW look so freakin' badass. Space Vikings is cool and all, but that brutal simplicity just screams Badass.

So much better than their 40k interpretation...

Hard to believe that the same company that produces the atrocious Santa sleigh also produces these...

It's amazing how good Space Wolves can look when they're clean. You can see an army of grey warriors, each an exceptional fighter, as being very intimidating - the Emperor's attack dog, ready to do anything to please their master.

Meanwhile, in regular GW Land we get Wolfy McWolfawolf, the Wolf of Castle Peltclaw, etc. etc.