Logan (wolverine III) trailer

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**creeping-deth87**

I watched it last night and it's absolutely fething amazing. Deadpool has to be one of the best things that's ever happened to comic book movies, I only wish it came out earlier in Jackman's career so we could gave gotten more Wolverine films like this.

**BrotherGecko**

I just got back from seeing Logan. I don't like any of the Xmen movies, I don't like any of the Wolverine movies. Yet, Logan will be in my top tier for comic book based movies. Definitely one of the best.

As always, thank you Deadpool for opening the gate to this. Thank you Logan, for what I can only guess, will be a sterling example of what a rated R comic book movie can be.

Disney and DC now have a real contender for best comic book movies.

**reds8n**

Far better than any of the other Wolverine films..

... probably better than the rest of the X films too -- I prefer 1st class but MMV etc etc .

Not without its flaws of course -- one couldn't help but think the endgame plan for ...some people.. was a bit optimistic ..one wonders if there was something edited out that might've made that a stronger motivation.

It's rated as a 15 in the UK and I'm quite surprised it wasn't an 18.

I guess there's not really a lot of blood or gore -- it's certainly no slasher flick -- but it is very violent -- loads of killing and maiming.

.. artfully done though soooo..

Props to all Jackman and Stewart for fine performances both here & overall in the franchise.

**Compel**

The film's just finished, it was great. I do wish they could have included a few more elements of Old Man Logan though.

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Overall, a great film, it could very well be on of the first superhero films to be taken seriously as a dramatic film. Thumbs up.

**Paradigm**

Saw it earlier, I'll join the chorus of saying its fantastic. Utterly relentless story, stunning performances from Jackman and Stewart (the former definitely cements his place as the best and most consistent comic book movie character, I reckon, and the action sequences are on a whole other level, but always with a point, there's no gratuitousness in any of the violence here.

Superbly shot, a great script, stellar performances, fantastic action sequences, some of the biggest emotional hits delivered by a comic book movie ever, it's got it all.

**kronk**

We liked it. Good story, all around.

**BobtheInquisitor**

I thought it was good but not great. Like Days of Future Past, the trailer was better than the movie because the trailer focused on theme and the movie decided to go with plot instead. There were many scenes that set up a thematic resonance or emotional beat, and while the movie didn't totally whiff the delivery the payoffs were fairly anemic. The family dinner should have been longer, and the death of the family as the death of a more personal family should have been emphasized ofr instabnce

The fight scenes were absolutely superb Wolverine action.

**Hulksmash**

I really enjoyed it. I would have liked a bit more closure for the band of kids. As it is were left wondering if Logan really did save them. But outside of that and the lack of even a mention of Magneto i was very pleased. And yes, Jackman over so many films has now been the best, most consistant super hero out there by a mile.

**angelofvengeance**

Great flick, if a little depressing lol. Definitely one of Jackman's solid appearances for this character.

It kinda reminds me of this penny arcade comic

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Reds8n

https://thestranded.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/pa-on-ninja-turnover.jpg?w=600&h=305

**Compel**

I still want Cable to be a running character through all the XMen renews and settings due to timeline jumping shenanigans

**ScootyPuffJunior**

creeping-deth87 wrote:
I watched it last night and it's absolutely fething amazing. Deadpool has to be one of the best things that's ever happened to comic book movies, I only wish it came out earlier in Jackman's career so we could gave gotten more Wolverine films like this.

From what I understand, Deadpool had nothing to do with making Logan R-rated. Apparently, this had always been the plan well before the former became as successful as it did.

**reds8n**

..soo..

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**Frazzled**

reds8n wrote:
..soo..

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I "liked" -- if you follow me -- the idea that Xavier --accidentally -- killed the X-men via his seizures, I was never overly convinced by the Mysterio ploy in the comic book.

It seemed to me that when the kids were running for the border there suddenly seemed to be far more of them than we'd seen previously ..?

And I was a bit baffled as to quite why -- cultural/'nam era allusions aside -- just going over the Canadian border was really going to be much of a barrier to the gang of well armed and trained guys with all the guns and equipment ...

... I guess Alpha Flight/similar were waiting or something yeah ?

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**Compel**

To reply to reds8n:

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**reds8n**

Indeed.

Trying to work out who that'd have to be.

.. and Fox do, AFAIK, have the Alpha Flight rights........

**Paradigm**

Given how this ends, I'd not be at all surprised if in a few years once she's a bit older, they start working on an Alpha Flight spin-off fronted by X-23

**Mr Morden**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
I thought it was good but not great. Like Days of Future Past, the trailer was better than the movie because the trailer focused on theme and the movie decided to go with plot instead. There were many scenes that set up a thematic resonance or emotional beat, and while the movie didn't totally whiff the delivery the payoffs were fairly anemic. The family dinner should have been longer, and the death of the family as the death of a more personal family should have been emphasized ofr instabnce

The fight scenes were absolutely superb Wolverine action.

Agreed and a good summary of the few weaker elements.

I enjoyed it - most of the cast were excellent, some great dialogue and scenes however I enjoyed all the previous Wolverine movies and really loved Days of Future Past.

**whembly**

Saw it. Loved it.

It borrows heavily from Western genre (foretold when X and Laura watches that western movie?).

**Azreal13**

That Western was 'Shane' and it's arguably quite meta (Shane is a gunfighter with a shady history, gets involved with protecting a group of innocent settlers against a group of ranchers, a small child aspires to be just like him, there's a scene where Shane talks about how guns are only as good or bad as the person wielding them (don't be what they made you) and, while not quite as unequivocal, Shane probably doesn't make it, after vanquishing the opposition.)

**ZergSmasher**

I just got back from the theater after seeing this, and I have to say it's got to be the best of the three Wolverine movies, although it is also the most violent comic book movie I've ever seen.

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**Mr Morden**

I didn't actually think it was much more violent than any other comic based film - more blood perhaps but otherwise pretty normal action film stuff really - certainly no more violent than say Underworld or Res Evil which also likes chopping off limbs and the like.

Obviously the fact that a small child is doing much of the killing does change this a bit - which I assume was one of the main reasons for the rating.

It made a nice change to be able to see the action and not the steady cam crap where you can't see anything.

Probably one of the very few who did not enjoy the "hilarious" Deadpool skit - completely off tone for the movie that followed. But then I hate everything about that character - in comics, movies whatever.

**jmurph**

Azreal13 wrote:
That Western was 'Shane' and it's arguably quite meta (Shane is a gunfighter with a shady history, gets involved with protecting a group of innocent settlers against a group of ranchers, a small child aspires to be just like him, there's a scene where Shane talks about how guns are only as good or bad as the person wielding them (don't be what they made you) and, while not quite as unequivocal, Shane probably doesn't make it, after vanquishing the opposition.)

Yeah, it really did borrow heavily from Western tropes and I was disappointed it was so transparent about it. Flat out showing two of the films it is drawing from lacked subtlety that maybe just showing them in the background would have kept. Heck, we even had redneck landmen bruisers and a broken water pump!

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**Galef**

Can someone help answer a plot point for me:

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**AduroT**

Galef wrote:
Can someone help answer a plot point for me:

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The Logan clone was killed by an adamantium bullet to the head. Isn't that how the original Logan lost his memories?
So why is it considered fatal to the clone? Wouldn't his head just heal, albeit with a very large hole left in his adamantium skull?
Was it just that this bullet/gun was more explosive and thus did more damage that could not be healed?

No, it's a stupid plot hole that pretty much everyone immediately recognizes.

**Ahtman**

It seems only a plot hole when looking at the other films and not this film alone. I don't think they cared to much about X-Men III or Origins.

Also it may have been a different bullet design as well. The film makers, unsurprisingly, didn't waste film time going over firearm engineering and just told us that this bullet could do the job.

**creeping-deth87**

The only explanation I can think of for the bullet being fatal is that maybe it was an imperfect clone. Earlier in the movie we see that it needs injections to help itself heal, maybe it's regenerative abilities just weren't as strong as the original Logan. That's all I got.

**Ahtman**

creeping-deth87 wrote:
The only explanation I can think of for the bullet being fatal is that maybe it was an imperfect clone. Earlier in the movie we see that it needs injections to help itself heal, maybe it's regenerative abilities just weren't as strong as the original Logan. That's all I got.

That is a possibility as well. Adamantium is rare and expensive so they may have used a weaker version of it. X-23 only has it on her claws and not her skeleton iirc. She still has the healing factor, of course.

**Galef**

Ahtman wrote:
It seems only a plot hole when looking at the other films and not this film alone. I don't think they cared to much about X-Men III or Origins.

Also it may have been a different bullet design as well. The film makers, unsurprisingly, didn't waste film time going over firearm engineering and just told us that this bullet could do the job.

That makes sense. Plus, all 3 original X-men movies, The Wolverine and most of the Origins isn't part of Logan's continuity (although they are part of Logan's memory) since history was altered in Days of Future Past starting from 1973 onward.
I suspect it really was a different kind of bullet/gun though, since in Origins it is just a small entry wound that scrambled Logan's brain. The Logan clone (Clogan? no let's not make that a thing) had a significant exit wound blasted out the other side of his head, so I doubt he'd be able to heal from that.

Ahtman wrote:
X-23 only has it on her claws and not her skeleton iirc. She still has the healing factor, of course.

I assumed she also had it all over, but I think you are right, they just showed it on her being graphed on her claws. it would actually suck for her to have it on all her bones as she wouldn't be able to grow any taller.

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**jreilly89**

Saw it Saturday afternoon with the wife. Both of us loved it, and felt like it was a pretty good send off for the Jackman Wolverine.

I really liked Xavier's character, very relatable and touching.

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Overall a pretty solid superhero movie, I'd say 9/10

**feeder**

Saw it Saturday night in a sold out theater. Really, really good overall. Obviously not perfect, missed a few beats here and there but ultimately a fantastic film.

When the movie ended,as it fades to black and just a big LOGAN on the screen, there was dead silence in the packed theater. Then a muffled sob, and a few exhales, like some people had been holding their breath for the last few minutes.

Great flick.