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2016/11/03 01:21:33
Subject: What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
Hey guys, wondering if anybody knows anything about the game's rules or how it plays. What I have seen on Google looks pretty slick and I like the models. So, just looking for opinions on it, thanks in advance.
2016/11/03 01:32:13
Subject: Re:What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
Interesting. It uses a D20. I had pre-ordered this from my local store since it is written by the creator of Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes. I hope it is good. I am a bit disappointed though as I had hoped for a sci fi version of ASoBH.
2016/11/03 23:32:58
Subject: What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
I have alot of faith in Andrea's ( the writer of SBH and ASoBH) ability to write a good set of rules. We've been enjoying the RPG-lite Tales of Blades and Heroes. A sci-fi game that's between RPG and skirmish sounds pretty promising.
I'm not disappointed that it'll be different than SBH (my favorite game) though. I played Flying Lead and I was a playtester for a SBH-based "Apocalypticum" post-apoc ruleset that never was released. Both instances let me to think that more detailed shooting-based rulesets might need something more than the SBH engine.
That said, if you want to do sci-fi similar to SBH give Flying Lead a try. For a more ASoBH with guns feel, Fistful of Kung Fu might be a good starting point.
My biggest disappointment -possibly unique to me- is that the Lion-man dude from the book does not appear to be one of the characters being made into a figure by North Star. Someone really needs to make a not-Elephantmen miniature line.
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IF (and that is a big IF) it is anything like A Fistful of Kung-Fu or Of Gods and Mortals, you can expect about 2 to 3 stats and a fistful of special rules with cutesy names.
However, I have a feeling this will be a bit different, since most of those games use a d6 instead of a d20. Something else cool from those last two games is an interesting activation/initaitive system. You can also expect straight line only movement, pre-set distances, a basic set of campaign rules, and damage related to how successful the attack was.
Overall, I would recommend you look at reviews for the following games to get a feel for the most likely style with some tweaks:
- Song of Blades and Heroes
- Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes
- Flying Lead
- Fistful of Kung-Fu
- Of Gods and Mortals
- Anything by Ganesha Games
Even though I am not a huge fan of these systems, I plan on picking up a copy of these rules.
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2016/11/04 22:14:39
Subject: Re:What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
I bought A Song of Blades and Heroes, Revised in 2014. I did not care for it. It was just too barebones.
Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes, however, is definitely my cuppa. The more manageably named Rogue Stars looks to be a d20-based riff on ASoBH. And I am hugely excited about that. Plus, something else to do with Deadzone minis! Plus plus, something to finally do with Counterblast minis!
Easy E wrote:IF (and that is a big IF) it is anything like A Fistful of Kung-Fu or Of Gods and Mortals, you can expect about 2 to 3 stats and a fistful of special rules with cutesy names.
However, I have a feeling this will be a bit different, since most of those games use a d6 instead of a d20. Something else cool from those last two games is an interesting activation/initaitive system. You can also expect straight line only movement, pre-set distances, a basic set of campaign rules, and damage related to how successful the attack was.
Overall, I would recommend you look at reviews for the following games to get a feel for the most likely style with some tweaks:
- Song of Blades and Heroes
- Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes
- Flying Lead
- Fistful of Kung-Fu
- Of Gods and Mortals
- Anything by Ganesha Games
Even though I am not a huge fan of these systems, I plan on picking up a copy of these rules.
I'd be wary of expecting this to be overly similar to SBH. It might well be, but the preview mentioned "Target Numbers" and that's something I've never seen in any SBH based games. I watched the video on full screen at Youtube and there are quite a few chances where you can read sections of the text.
It does have an activation mechanic that -like ASOBH- can help your opponent if you roll too low. I didn't see it all spelled it out, but it doesn't appear to share the same 3-dice gambling activation mechanic of the SBH series.
Also, it seems to have alot of equipment, something that is mostly not present, or covered by "special rules" in most SBH systems.
I saw alot of special traits and rules. What I did not see was any mention of the actual statline of a given character, so we're still in the dark as to whether it's short like SBH or something more usual.
Manchu wrote:I bought A Song of Blades and Heroes, Revised in 2014. I did not care for it. It was just too barebones.
Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes, however, is definitely my cuppa. The more manageably named Rogue Stars looks to be a d20-based riff on ASoBH. And I am hugely excited about that. Plus, something else to do with Deadzone minis! Plus plus, something to finally do with Counterblast minis!
Yea, I have been eyeing the Counterblast line for a while, and I think that if Rogue Stars is alright it will give me the motivation to actually pick some of it. And, can also give me another use for my MERCS minis haha.
2016/11/08 22:34:38
Subject: What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
Eilif wrote: If anyone knows of any more, please let me know.
Check out their Chronoscope line. Its a multi-genre line that includes some usable SF figures. Here are just a few examples:
Spoiler:
Thanks, chronoscope has lots of great figures, a number of which are in my collection. However, I'm looking specifically for links to sci-fi animal people.
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Manchu wrote: What do you guys think of the upcoming NorthStar range for this game, other than the missing lion man?
I am really torn. The pics and paint style NorthStar uses are really unappealing to me but I have liked their FG stuff in person before.
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Personally, I think the 80's are over and some wargame companies need to realize that. Of course, folks keep buying, so...
Imagine a generic fantasy and sci fi line with the quality of the newer Infinity models. Not necessarily the aesthetics, but the consistency and quality.
Missed opportunity here, and with their other lines like Frostgrave and IHMN, in my opinion.
I'm grabbing the book for sure. Won't touch any Northstar products though.
Manchu wrote: What do you guys think of the upcoming NorthStar range for this game, other than the missing lion man?
I am really torn. The pics and paint style NorthStar uses are really unappealing to me but I have liked their FG stuff in person before.
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Sweet! Where did you get that picture? Lion man isn't on the nickstarter sale page yet. I'll add him as soon as he becomes available.
Might also buy that Turtle guy (?) and the officer with a shotgun.
As fpr the entirety of the line, I rather like it. It's got a style very much in line with Foundry, Copplestone, Grenadier (sculpted by Copplestone) and West Wind. It's a bit classic looking and not as finely detailed but is really easy to quickly paint to a good standard. Looks pretty good alongside old school GW also, though it's a bit different.
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spect_spidey wrote: I prefer plastic minis. I guess I will just have to use GW or Reaper for this game as I am not aware of any other companies who do sci fi plastics.
Manchu wrote: Beyond the Gates of Anatres by WLG - there are some plastics in that line (Concord and Ghar factions).
If you're speaking about hard polystyrene figs (assemblable with plastic solvent, known as HIPS) There's also:
-Mantic Warpath and Deadzone-though some are hard plastic and some are restic.
-Dreamforge games
-Scotia Grendel sells the sprues of Void Junkers Legionnaires and Viridian marines.
-EM4 has some plastic sci-fi/post apoc figs, but honestly, they're pretty dated.
If you're fine with alternate plastic materials like Reaper Bones PVC and the plastic known as plastiresin/Restic/Etc.
-Sedition Wars boxed set is a great pack of mutants and troopers for a ridiculously low price
-Mantic- as noted above
Also, I think -but I'm not sure- Warzone Resurrection and Alien Vs Predator games have some plastic figures as well that might be HIPS. If you're cool with the restic material, I would especially check out the Mantic Deadzone line. It's got a variety of aliens (especially in the Rebs faction) that seem tailor made for the Rogue Stars style.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I will have to look into some of those options. I thought outside of the starter set that Beyond the Gates was all metal. And I had forgotten about Mantic having sci fi games.
2016/11/09 23:09:00
Subject: What Do You Guys Know of Osprey's Game Rogue Stars?
