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1. Core Rulebooks (mostly rules, but with a few big fluff sections on both general 40K and the specific setting for that game).
2. GM kits (they have a small booklet with a small adventure that fleshes out usually one world/location mentioned in the core rulebook).
3. Adventure Books (lots of fluff on a few areas, mixed in with the details to run a campaign/rules for adversaries/NPCs etc.). 'Bout a 50/50 split on fluff/crunch.
4. Background Books (lots of fluff, little crunch). I'd say a 70/30 split. Books like Edge of the Abyss, The Achillus Assault, the Outer Reach.
5. Rules Expansions (lots of crunch, little fluff). Opposite split of the above. A lot of the class expansions are like this - Tome of Decay, Book of Judgement, Shield of Humanity.
6. Bestiaries (50/50). By their nature they are rulebooks, but contain a lot of fluff on the things that have rules.
7. Oddities. Some books mix it up (like The Soul Reaver and Ark of Lost Souls), and they adventure books that introduced a large set of new rules and also background for that. Interesting books.
8. The Best Book Ever! The Lathe Worlds. (/bias)
Kirasu wrote: Books are heavy.. weight matters when it comes to shipping I'll never understand why so many threads have an incredible amount of "shipping is expensive" posts, as if the postal service was just invented or something.
The base shipping is just high. I wanted order a single $3 dice bag and it was $9.95 shipping
1. Core Rulebooks (mostly rules, but with a few big fluff sections on both general 40K and the specific setting for that game).
2. GM kits (they have a small booklet with a small adventure that fleshes out usually one world/location mentioned in the core rulebook).
3. Adventure Books (lots of fluff on a few areas, mixed in with the details to run a campaign/rules for adversaries/NPCs etc.). 'Bout a 50/50 split on fluff/crunch.
4. Background Books (lots of fluff, little crunch). I'd say a 70/30 split. Books like Edge of the Abyss, The Achillus Assault, the Outer Reach.
5. Rules Expansions (lots of crunch, little fluff). Opposite split of the above. A lot of the class expansions are like this - Tome of Decay, Book of Judgement, Shield of Humanity.
6. Bestiaries (50/50). By their nature they are rulebooks, but contain a lot of fluff on the things that have rules.
7. Oddities. Some books mix it up (like The Soul Reaver and Ark of Lost Souls), and they adventure books that introduced a large set of new rules and also background for that. Interesting books.
8. The Best Book Ever! The Lathe Worlds. (/bias)
Do you happen to know all the background books? Those are the ones I'm interested in again. Thanks!
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Hulksmash wrote: Do you happen to know all the background books? Those are the ones I'm interested in again. Thanks!
The categories I mentioned are a way to loosely define the book types, so some have more rules than others, some are much bigger than others and thus have more crunch but also more fluff. But if I had to list background books (and I'm including Bestiaries here):
DH1.0 The Inquisitor's Handbook - the first big expansion for Dark Heresy. Very rules heavy, but it's a big 240 page book which means lots more background. The Radical's Handbook - Not as big, but a lot of background stuff for the more radical side of the Callixis Sector Inquisitors.
RT Into the Storm - Rogue Trader's equivalent of The Inquisitor's Handbook. Edge of the Abyss - Very much a high fluff/low crunch book. The Navis Primer - Tons of stuff on Navigators and other warp-related topics.
DW Rites of Battle - Deathwatch's equivalent of The Inquisitor's Handbook. The Achilus Assault - Another nearly only background book. The Outer Reaches - A book with more background than rules, but not strictly a background book. Introduces the Necrons to Deathwatch.
BC The Tome Books are the only expansions for Black Crusade outside of the GM kit and the adventure book. All of them expand upon the game's setting, and introduce tons of new elements, but they also have a lot of rules. They're the 50/50 books in the purest sense.
OW Same boat as BC, with all the non-adventure books being 50/50's, expanding on the setting as well as introducing new rules for things (like tanks - lots of tanks!).
DH2.0 Much like BC, Dark Heresy 2.0 has the 3 Ordo books that function in much the same way.
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Kirasu wrote: Books are heavy.. weight matters when it comes to shipping I'll never understand why so many threads have an incredible amount of "shipping is expensive" posts, as if the postal service was just invented or something.
Probably because depending on what you're buying and who from, it's not always that expensive. I for one will never understand why so many people feel a need to bitch and moan to hear their own self-important voices heard when other people mention shipping costs rather than just letting it go.
Yeah that's what I did with DUST a few years back. Great prices but shipping more than doubled the cost of the order. I justified it because it was still 25% cheaper than buying the same stuff off eBay from within the UK but that just adds up to a "Good Deal" (as long as you are prepared to buy a lot) rather than the "Great Deal" you get if you live in the US. Shame, as I wouldn't mind a few of those 40KRPG Books.. and heck even the WFRP 3rd ed core set isn't a bad price at $40. Oh well.
Picked up the Black Crusade books. Don't have any experience with the RPG, but figured since the core book was still available might as well give it a go.
Ugh, forgot to look at the board games and grab the Relic expansions.
Fortunately for us in the UK books (unlike box games) don't attract VAT and customs duty (if it applies) only kicks in at £135.... and if you don't have to pay any of those then you don't have to pay any handling charges either (I hate these so much, taxes are fair enough, but the handling fees, Aaaargh)
Triple9 wrote: Picked up the Black Crusade books. Don't have any experience with the RPG, but figured since the core book was still available might as well give it a go.
The Nurgle book was out of stock and its the one I wanted most
I couldn't justify getting all the Deathwatch books and quite a few books for the other RPGs aren't listed either but at least I now have a lot less Ebay searching before I get myself a complete set of books.
The RPG itself is ok, although it is a little bogged down in detail (lots and lots of equipment and skills that only grant minor bonuses) although that does add to the experience to a degree and its definitely a positive from a fluff point of view.
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I'm in the same boat, I would have hoovered up all the WFRP stuff if it wasn't for the postage. Give it some time and hopefully prices will calm down on ebay!
I'm just saying that standard domestic shipping for a 6 lb board game is 25$. Companies get cheap shipping by subsidizing it via high selling products. Clearance sales are pretty much the opposite of "high selling products".
So I don't see why it's surprising when this happens *every* year and international buyers should be used to it. I agree that they should find a way to make shipping cheaper but being outraged over something you KNOW was going to happen seems silly.
Just like how every kickstarter or GW thread starts with "Shipping and/or prices are so high in australia!"
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Triple9 wrote: Picked up the Black Crusade books. Don't have any experience with the RPG, but figured since the core book was still available might as well give it a go.
The Nurgle book was out of stock and its the one I wanted most
I couldn't justify getting all the Deathwatch books and quite a few books for the other RPGs aren't listed either but at least I now have a lot less Ebay searching before I get myself a complete set of books.
The RPG itself is ok, although it is a little bogged down in detail (lots and lots of equipment and skills that only grant minor bonuses) although that does add to the experience to a degree and its definitely a positive from a fluff point of view.
would have bought me all the books if for nothing then having reading material (don't play RPG's really) but then realized i spent my gaming budget on some 40K things like a wazbomma, titan, stompa and so on and so on, so alas must wait for some of my stuff on eBay sells before I can buy more
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
Kirasu wrote: I'm just saying that standard domestic shipping for a 6 lb board game is 25$. Companies get cheap shipping by subsidizing it via high selling products. Clearance sales are pretty much the opposite of "high selling products".
So I don't see why it's surprising when this happens *every* year and international buyers should be used to it. I agree that they should find a way to make shipping cheaper but being outraged over something you KNOW was going to happen seems silly.
Just like how every kickstarter or GW thread starts with "Shipping and/or prices are so high in australia!"
As hilarious as this meme is, this ^. Every year, they have a sale. Ever year people are surprised about shipping.
Kirasu wrote: I'm just saying that standard domestic shipping for a 6 lb board game is 25$. Companies get cheap shipping by subsidizing it via high selling products. Clearance sales are pretty much the opposite of "high selling products".
So I don't see why it's surprising when this happens *every* year and international buyers should be used to it. I agree that they should find a way to make shipping cheaper but being outraged over something you KNOW was going to happen seems silly.
Just like how every kickstarter or GW thread starts with "Shipping and/or prices are so high in australia!"
As hilarious as this meme is, this ^. Every year, they have a sale. Ever year people are surprised about shipping.
I've noticed shipping overseas books and such can get downright expensive and even on the cheap shipping too.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
Kirasu wrote: I'm just saying that standard domestic shipping for a 6 lb board game is 25$. Companies get cheap shipping by subsidizing it via high selling products. Clearance sales are pretty much the opposite of "high selling products".
So I don't see why it's surprising when this happens *every* year and international buyers should be used to it. I agree that they should find a way to make shipping cheaper but being outraged over something you KNOW was going to happen seems silly.
Just like how every kickstarter or GW thread starts with "Shipping and/or prices are so high in australia!"
As hilarious as this meme is, this ^. Every year, they have a sale. Ever year people are surprised about shipping.
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I don't get how, if they now are part of Asmodee, they don't have a european warehouse to ship from. It's ridiculous.
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I'll never understand why so many threads have an incredible amount of "shipping is expensive" posts, as if the postal service was just invented or something. 
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