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 Mr Morden wrote:
Well except that they apparently don't have the main Special Character of the Army? Imagine removing all the Space Marine SC's and saying - it doesn't matter you can use your normal units?


That'd be a really weird thing to happen in a Space Marine Codex. When it happens in a Sisters of Battle Codex, be sure to let us know.

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 mmzero252 wrote:
 Genestealer Acolyte wrote:
 mmzero252 wrote:
 NidLifeCrisis wrote:
Well, I didn't get a Canoness.. :-(

I was early enough to see the 'Pre-order' tab, but alas it wasn't meant to be...


Welp. Looks like I'm just going to convert my own if her rules are amazing.


Just wait for more to come into stock. It's not limited edition or anything.


I was going to convert my own anyway. I'll put her in the same pose, sure..but that model is super hideous. Looks just like the art, but the art is hideous too.


I've got to say, I think it looks awesome. The paintjob isn't the best (especially on the face, as mentioned) and I hate the cartoony pile of bones, but otherwise it's really cool.
   
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Can you reserve these at GW stores? If not I'm showing up first.
   
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10 sisters are £50!

What the feth GW!

Where are my plastics?
What the feth is going on?
   
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No Canoness for me on German GW site. I could order one from my go to online store and maybe get one, but 5€ postage vs. free train ride to a GW, ehh.

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They have already promised that the Canoness will be available online in the future. I wouldn't be surprised to see it back up before the end of the preordained window.
   
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 MadCowCrazy wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:
Sisters players seem very ungrateful. Makes sense that I'm joining you.
This may not be Codex: Adepta Sororitas but it is a codex that contains all of their units. And stop expecting sisters to be better than space marines.


Don't know if this is bait or just trolling...

Exactly what should we be grateful for? It's also never about being "better than space marines", it's about being on par since SM are the closest comparison. I get the impression you have no idea how sisters players have been treated over the years or how poorly balanced the WD and then Digital are when compared to any other codex. I already compiled some of the problems earlier in the thread. It basically comes down to this, why is a model with 4 on all stats cheaper than one with BS4 and 3 on all other stats?
SM Scout 11pts
Space Marine 14pts
Battle Sisters 12
Retributor 12
Dominion 13
Celestian 14 - Same cost as SM but -1S,T and I
Seraphim 15pts

Celestians cost the same a a Space Marine, but AoF are so powerful!!! Celestians get Furious Charge if they pass a Ld test one phase once per game and have a 6++. I sure am ungrateful for this overpowered unit... Even if the cost of sisters were reduced to 10pts per model for all they would still be bad.
Acts of Faith are what makes the Sisters special and they are some of the worst army abilities in the game.


In fairness, Celestians have 2 Attacks and Ld 9, and Seraphim have jump packs (and two pistols, which is better than ccw & bp) so you should probably compare them to Veterans and Assault Marines respectively. I'm not disputing the maths per se, but you should compare like with like.
   
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Cannoness sold out within the hour in Victoria, Australia. Hopefully GW takes thoses sales figures as a sure sign that Sisters are in demand and gets in to gear with those plastics lol
   
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Am I the only one who noticed that the M2O Seraphim Superior also comes with the Seraphim squad?
   
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diepotato47 wrote:
Cannoness sold out within the hour in Victoria, Australia. Hopefully GW takes thoses sales figures as a sure sign that Sisters are in demand and gets in to gear with those plastics lol


This is what I don't get.
The thirst is so real the new model sold out instantly. (Probably largely due to scalpers but still)

If GW are willing to put out a full range for a largely unknown like GS cults, surely something with such a huge demand like sisters would be a no brainer?
   
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Why didn't they limit these? Fething scalpers probably bought 100 as soon as they went up.
   
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 dan2026 wrote:


If GW are willing to put out a full range for a largely unknown like GS cults, surely something with such a huge demand like sisters would be a no brainer?


Without Genestealer Cults there would be no Tyranids as we know them.

Indeed, GSC cropped up at the same time as the Deathwing. They're even part of the original Deathwing origin story.

Largely unknown?

No, no. GSC have been a fan favourite in literature and roleplaying even when they didn't have 'rules' for an army.

Glad to see that Sisters players have moved their ridiculous bile and blame approach away from CSM and to GSC.

Pretty sure if you keep blaming another part of the playerbase that will fix everything eventually.


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NivlacSupreme wrote:
Why didn't they limit these? Fething scalpers probably bought 100 as soon as they went up.


Because they've already confirmed they're not limited and will be back in stock indefinately from the web store after the initial release?

Really, a scalper will only profit if you're not willing to wait a week and get it at its normal price.

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I'm not though! I was on the webstore as soon as was physically possible and I still don't get one.
   
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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:


If GW are willing to put out a full range for a largely unknown like GS cults, surely something with such a huge demand like sisters would be a no brainer?


Without Genestealer Cults there would be no Tyranids as we know them.

Indeed, GSC cropped up at the same time as the Deathwing. They're even part of the original Deathwing origin story.

Largely unknown?

No, no. GSC have been a fan favourite in literature and roleplaying even when they didn't have 'rules' for an army.

Glad to see that Sisters players have moved their ridiculous bile and blame approach away from CSM and to GSC.

Pretty sure if you keep blaming another part of the playerbase that will fix everything eventually.


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NivlacSupreme wrote:
Why didn't they limit these? Fething scalpers probably bought 100 as soon as they went up.


Because they've already confirmed they're not limited and will be back in stock indefinately from the web store after the initial release?

Really, a scalper will only profit if you're not willing to wait a week and get it at its normal price.


GSC coming back is awesome - however considering that they have not had rules /models for such a long time - they were a risk. Once again the worry for many of us Sisters players is that its always one step forward, two steps back, whilst even Chaos is stumbling forward again.

So finally here is the Sisters rules in hardback - awesome - oh and we (seem) to be have removed the signature character from the army list (as that's how its described) and maybe other things. No mention of plastic, but here is a LE SC character but only in resin. Super cheese formations like everyone else, getting unit upgrades / points adjustments - none mentioned so far.

One step forward and two back. Its very sad. I donlt quite understand why people are surprised when there are have and have not's and the have not's are not happy.

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NivlacSupreme wrote:
I'm not though! I was on the webstore as soon as was physically possible and I still don't get one.


Wait a week or so. Set an email alert. Order it when it comes back into stock.

If you're willing to throw a fit and let a scalper scalp you - then you're part of the problem, not the solution.

This is literally the -worst- model to try and scalp simply because GW have already confirmed it will be available indefinately from the web store.


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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
 dan2026 wrote:


If GW are willing to put out a full range for a largely unknown like GS cults, surely something with such a huge demand like sisters would be a no brainer?


Without Genestealer Cults there would be no Tyranids as we know them.

Indeed, GSC cropped up at the same time as the Deathwing. They're even part of the original Deathwing origin story.

Largely unknown?

No, no. GSC have been a fan favourite in literature and roleplaying even when they didn't have 'rules' for an army.

Glad to see that Sisters players have moved their ridiculous bile and blame approach away from CSM and to GSC.

Pretty sure if you keep blaming another part of the playerbase that will fix everything eventually.



a) I am not a sisters player. I want to be in the future though.
b) I didn't blame anyone
c) You can't seriously tell me that GS cults who havent had rules or models since very early in 40k weren't a risk to bring back with an entirely new range. They were 100% unknown in modern fluff til they came back.
   
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 DarkStarSabre wrote:
NivlacSupreme wrote:
I'm not though! I was on the webstore as soon as was physically possible and I still don't get one.


Wait a week or so. Set an email alert. Order it when it comes back into stock.

If you're willing to throw a fit and let a scalper scalp you - then you're part of the problem, not the solution.

This is literally the -worst- model to try and scalp simply because GW have already confirmed it will be available indefinately from the web store.


I'm saying scalpers are bad. I have very little money. I managed to get enough so that I could have had a canoness next week. I couldn't order from a scalper if I wanted to.
   
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 dan2026 wrote:

c) You can't seriously tell me that GS cults who havent had rules or models since very early in 40k weren't a risk to bring back with an entirely new range. They were 100% unknown in modern fluff til they came back.


Genestealer Cult Rules...let's go....

Warhammer 40,000 Compilation (RT)
Codex Tyranids (2nd edition)
Citadel Journal (3rd edition)
Codex: Witchhunters (Adversaries options)

They were also present in the Inquisitor game

Plus how many project logs on here and on Warseer have their been of people using Imperial Guard, Inquisition and Orks to make Genestealer Cults? Go on, have a look. There's plenty and they're pretty damn fantastic.

They were not 100% unknown in Modern fluff - they cropped up regularly in the Ciaphas Cain series of novels - frequently infesting Tau. There was also a lot of home-brewing of GSC in Dark Heresy as well.

GeneCult hadn't faded into obscurity, as much as you'd like to think they had. They've been about and DW: Overkil was a nod that brought them and Deathwatch back into 40k. Because your argument is very much the same for Deathwatch as well. Was there a demand for yet another Marine army? Was there really a call to release them as a range?

Doesn't matter. They sold. GSC cult sold and GSC are a very, very nice shift away from the meta. They're an army that can outmanuvere the meta without transports and that is healthy for the game as a whole.

And you did put blame on GSC. Holding them as an example for yet another 'WHY NO SISTERS?' bleat. The same bleat we saw through Traitor Legions' threads.


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 BloodGrin wrote:
I will keep most of my opinion to myself otherwise I will get mod sniped, but being so negative must really make life sad.

My life is pretty sad right not but SoB are really a tiny, tiny part of it.

 BloodGrin wrote:
Celestine will be in there, and most people would see this as odds of a new sculpt finally coming soon.

Says who?
Should Pretre open up a record on you?

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Woohoo, 10 page codex sold only with 60 pages of non-Sisters stuff...


It's not a Sisters Codex, so why were you expecting more?


Because the entire SoB army list is in it?

Why is H.B.M.C. still talking to me? Why hasn't he put me on ignore? Why has Dakka's moderation team allowed him to troll ever and ever and ever?
The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind or something like that.

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Codex: Imperial Agents Hardback, $40 US; Pre-order Dec. 10th, 2016; 136 color pages

This is the initial text review for Combat Phase weekly wargaming podcast. Ep 175 next week will have more discussion. Also, fans of the Horus Heresy, tune in to our show right before Christmas to join an all-star cast of BL authors, artists, podcasters, painters, and fans from around the world as they reflect on A Decade of Horus Heresy. Wow! www.combatphase.com or on iTunes or however you like to get your podcasts.

First off, this is another beautiful book. While I admit I don’t know if all of the internal artwork is reused or newly commissioned, the initial piece is quite breathtaking. The intro section walks through each of the nine factions included with one-two pages of fluff accompanying art (many reused but gorgeous pieces). Next the book includes the standard gallery of models in action sequences (not solo models) in the Warriors of the Imperium section. It was wonderful to see some oldies but goodies pictured, which at the time of initial review I looked up and noticed were no longer for sale or needed to be found on the web store under the search function. Since then, GW has not only announced a new Blanche-inspired Sisters of Battle Canoness, but also brought back the remaining models here for order on demand. This is good because at this point—as we said weeks ago, Warhammer Community has confirmed, and many guessed—there are no new models accompanying this release, though 2017 is only a few weeks away…so, who knows…

So yes, the Sisters of Battle (SoB) army features all existing models. That doesn’t mean the promised plastic SoB models mentioned from inside a trash bin on Warhammer TV a few months back aren’t coming soon, but unlike a supplement, this is (at the very least) a placeholder for these nine factions, introducing new detachments which have their own force organization charts (FoC) and command abilities so the odd existing model can legally fit into an army as standard, ally, or whatever you prefer. Finally we have two pages of weapons, vehicle equipment and special issue warmer before the factions begin. It’s not a lot: 2 ranged, 1 melee, 2 vehicle and 5 special issue including psyk-out grenades and a teleport homer.

Now, onto the 9 factions: each faction has its own name as its faction unless otherwise noted

1. Cult Mechanicus
We have the FoC Engineer Congregation to accompany the Tech-Priest Enginseer model that came out a while back (that cool-looking tech-priest with the axe but kinda on his own). This one is simple: Pair him with the Servitors on the next page and both units must have the Cult Mech faction. But units from this detachment gain the Canticles of the Omnissiah rule like Cult Mech usually have and the table is included. So this is good for folks like me with a cult mech or admech army or who want to incorporate these few models in. Not sure why the book started here, as it’s the slimmest of entries and they’re not alphabetical. But this certainly doesn't replace either of the admech codexes.

2. Aeronautica Imperialis
This is the one no one could guess would be in the book weeks back when the list of 9 was being theorized from the initial teaser giving 6/9 factions. Hey, I wouldn’t have guessed it either. These boys are part of Armies of the Imperium and ally as such. An Imperial Navy Section FoC has at least one Valkyrie and 1 optional Officer of the Fleet. They gain air superiority allowing them to re-roll failed reserve rolls for this detachment. Another slim one, but it gets better. The officer is a cool model I don’t recognize. He allows you to allow a navy order (these are cumulative for each officer). So you can get either a bonus to reserves or penalize your opponents rolls on reserve rolls though a 6 will always bring in enemy reserves. It’s fluffy for units of 1-4 Valkyries (125 base each) and the designer’s note tells us the combat role and pursuit and agility values of the Valkyrie have been included for players using Death from the Skies.

3. Adeptus Astra Telepathica
I swear, they’re not all this short. Here’s a unique detachment for the psykers: Psykana Division w/1 compulsory HQ (either Primaris Psyker or Astropath) …[God, I miss playing Rogue Trader] and an optional units of elites Wyrdvane Psykers . The bonus here allows for your HQ psykers near 5 or more Wyrdvane Psykers from this detachment a better chance to harness. The Primaris ne upgraded and take from the 4 usual expected lores. Astropaths give your army the ability to re-roll reserves in your next turn if he/she successfully manifests a psychic power this turn! Wyrdvanes come in units of 5 with brotherhood of psykers level 1 from the same 4 lores as the primaris. Wyrdvanes are already on sale for $15 for 3 so way cheaper than expected, If you have or like these models you can put them to good use but especially synergies with psykers or reserves. You can see how these are starting to stack...so maybe the order of publication does make sense after all…

4. Adepta Sororitas (SoB)
The best way I decided to do this is just list the entries for you to do your own comparison for whatever you may be wondering. We get two new detachments depending on if you want small bodyguard or an entire force. Ministorum Delegation lets you pair a leader with a bodyguard. FLUFFY! As expected, they must be from the Adepta Sororitas faction. This grants Shield of Faith to the detachment making them tougher mentally and physically. The larger army detachment can buff your Army of Faith to prayer for dodging bad save rolls. The army still has the Act of Faith rule, Martyrdom, and 6 unique warlord traits. No new models today (beyond Canoness) but….I wanna see some Sisters on the battlefield! Includes also 7 relics and 6 tactical objectives. My fav is the Mantle of Ophelia granting Eternal Warrior. If you go to the webstore you’ll see these models.
Canoness
Ministorum Priest - cool older models looking like zealots, each fight sub phase can get a war hymn
Uriah Jacobus
Battle Sister Squad
Repentia Squad
Sororitas Command Squad
Arco-flagellents
Crusaders - power swords & storm shields can take rhino or immolator as dedicated transport
Death Cult Assassins
Celestian Squad
Dominion Squad
Seraphim Squad
Sororitas Rhino
Immolator
Retributor Squad
Exorcist
Penitent Engines
Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave formation - gains shield of faith


5. The Deathwatch
A Deathwatch Kill Team allows you better shots at wounding or armor penetration. There’s a big list of wargear and your troops of Veterans can take a Corvus Blackstar flyer. Deathwatch (I don’t have their new codex) have special rules and Mission tactics. So as before you can get a bit of variety in the unit with lots of re-rolls. Nice! I played vs. an entire DW army and they can be nuts so it’s nice that someone with only a small force can use them. All their wargear and rules are included so you can run this detachment from this book.

6. Grey Knights
We get full background and rules for demon-hunting Grey Knights (GK) to form a Daemonhunter Strike Force. Much like GK in the codex, you can come in from the beginning and wreck face fast. This is not the full GK codex, of course.


7. Legion of the Damned
This book gives the new Spectral Host detachment. We see Damned Legionanaires but this detachment starts in reserves and you can choose to come in when you feel is best. Again, a nice way to allow someone to ally or use a single LotD unit to get some variety to the army.

8. Officio Assassinorum
This is fleshed out with the 4 assassins from the board game or also available individually where you can bring 1 or a formation, though each assassin is its own Assassinorum Operative detachment allowing a single elite assassin from Vindicare, Callidus, Eversor or Culexus temples. It gains bonuses for doing what Assassins do best. But this is just more about using your assassins with all the info, data sheets, special rules and wargear from each Temple together in one spot. Worth a look even if you’re only kinda thinking about assassins. They also have a formation Execution Force where 1 from each of the 4 temples come with better shots at smoking their targets. Each assassin has a full datasheet with special rules.

9. (No one suspects…) The Inquisition
Our final entry includes the full background and rules for agents of the Inquisition including data sheets, war gear, and a unique detachment. Again, if you don’t have the Inquisition codex, here ya go. Detachment gains authority of the inquisition. Once again, everything rules and wargear is in here for what’s in this book. We have the usual line-up from the The Inquisitor and a cool formation at the end to bring most of these previous factions togethers.

So, that’s it. Overall, if you have these models or want to collect a select few, or have been playing the RPGs or video games and are jonesing for some Imperial Agents this lets you do that. There’s the odd formation, plus every faction gets a new detachment to make it work. I can see this being a book for players with these models or collectors but it does not replace those codexes that are in use. I liked it but was surprised they started with the super slim factions first. But I guess keep it a mix.

That’s it! Let us know your thoughts and questions. The audio podcast for Combat Phase covering this book will have more discussion on using the book. But for now, see above for the contents.


Going back to the actual info we have thus far:

Looking forward to seeing the images and fluff - this sounds good. Also pleased that I don't have to use my printed off Sisters codex.

Things keeping their own Factions is very annoying - it means we can't really mix up the units, have Inquisitors and their weird and wonderful retinues / inducted units flying about in Valkyries or the like - you know like in the fluff.

Like the sound of the Enginseer and they are at least trying to tie together the various Ad Mech stuff a bit

Aeronautica is a bit weird if you can't use them as transports and they are not able to upgraded to Vendetta's - look forward to seeing the new officer model - been nice if it had been a female officer for a change.....

Telepaths -hmm ok - no Sisters of Silence - weird. Another missed opportunity.

And then we come to Sisters - so at least some kind of Formation to boost Shield of Faith for the army which is a positive - does not appear to be anything to match the power dexes (bizarrely some people seem to think only some codexes should be competitive - likely their own) Bodyguard - well nice to be able to give Inquisitors at least some Invuln!

It appears that Celestine is gone which is a tragedy and a major slap in the face to all Sisters players, hopefully the new canoness will have at least usable rules. No word on pts cost or similar - could Crusaders always take Immolators?

Sad that it appears, once again to be very half hearted :(

Deathwatch - again sounds No but no way to put your inquisitor in the flyer with his/her minions?

Legion of the Damned - cool - another reason that Celestine SHOULD have been there - they are very similar!

Grey Knights - ok

Assassins -- ok

Inquisitors - again if its just a reprint - yet another missed opportunity to give them invulns FFS and allow them to use any kind of ride.

Will be buying this for the fluff and hardback rules for SOB but it does seem to be mainly another kick in the teeth for the SOB players in particular and not sorting out niggles with other factions.

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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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So I still don't know which of the factions in the codex actually got their rules updated. Are the Inquisition and the Assassins just copy-paste from the old digital codices?

   
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Are the sisters rules updated? Are the inquisition? Can I keep using my old codex's until I can afford this one?
   
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No one who actually knows has said apart from the snippet above (in my spoilers)

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 pretre wrote:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328418-codex-imperial-agents/page-15

It's interesting how the feedback from every SoB player in this thread is negative. Good job, GW, great job! Gotta work hard on keeping that consumer satisfaction low.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 pretre wrote:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328418-codex-imperial-agents/page-15

It's interesting how the feedback from every SoB player in this thread is negative. Good job, GW, great job! Gotta work hard on keeping that consumer satisfaction low.


Apart from having hard copy rules there does not seem much to be positive about?

I don't really get why they spend time and effort on putting these books together and not adjust stuff - and its not just Sisters - from the limited info we have thus far:

Still no invulns on Inquisitors unless accompanied by SOB, no way to take different stuff in transports - unless the FAQ is being changed.

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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos

"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001

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 Mr Morden wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 pretre wrote:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328418-codex-imperial-agents/page-15

It's interesting how the feedback from every SoB player in this thread is negative. Good job, GW, great job! Gotta work hard on keeping that consumer satisfaction low.


Apart from having hard copy rules there does not seem much to be positive about?

I don't really get why they spend time and effort on putting these books together and not adjust stuff - and its not just Sisters - from the limited info we have thus far:

Still no invulns on Inquisitors unless accompanied by SOB, no way to take different stuff in transports - unless the FAQ is being changed.


Well all the sub-factions are in one codex, right? Take them in rhinos/immolators. It's in the SoB part, right? Wouldn't the whole book technically be "Faction: Imperial Agents"? Sounds legal by definition to take anything from that book starting in transports from anything else in that book.

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 mmzero252 wrote:
 Mr Morden wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 pretre wrote:
http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328418-codex-imperial-agents/page-15

It's interesting how the feedback from every SoB player in this thread is negative. Good job, GW, great job! Gotta work hard on keeping that consumer satisfaction low.


Apart from having hard copy rules there does not seem much to be positive about?

I don't really get why they spend time and effort on putting these books together and not adjust stuff - and its not just Sisters - from the limited info we have thus far:

Still no invulns on Inquisitors unless accompanied by SOB, no way to take different stuff in transports - unless the FAQ is being changed.


Well all the sub-factions are in one codex, right? Take them in rhinos/immolators. It's in the SoB part, right? Wouldn't the whole book technically be "Faction: Imperial Agents"? Sounds legal by definition to take anything from that book starting in transports from anything else in that book.


Now, onto the 9 factions: each faction has its own name as its faction unless otherwise noted
So not as I read that?

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They each have their own names, but they're still all in one book. If GW wants to abuse it's players, just abuse their wording.

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You mean the wording that doesn't say Codex=Faction but rather says Faction=Faction.

If the Codex separates each faction and says they are separate factions, they are separate factions. If it instead says they are the same faction, then they are the same faction.

However from what we've seen so far information-wise, it indicates that the book specifies they are separate factions.
   
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 mmzero252 wrote:
They each have their own names, but they're still all in one book. If GW wants to abuse it's players, just abuse their wording.


GW doesn't care, all that does is make people hate you. Having to "cheat" just to make your army playable is not the way this game should be heading.

Pretty much every codex up til now has been REALLY good with very few trash units. If nothing changes in this book it doesn't bode well for the future. Why would they release this book and then a sisters book in 2 months with different rules in both. I really hope we get some updates rules and that the for the first time in GW history are good.

   
 
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