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2016/12/15 09:54:11
Subject: Re:Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
Warhams-77 wrote: I'm unable to verify the post at the moment. I also do not tend to react emotionally to stuff like this as it would not change anything to the better
Screenshot by Markain on www.gw-fanworld.net - from 40kFB
I'm not sure GW should post stuff like this. If they don't plan to release plastic Sisters they should say so straight away. If they do, keep silence until the miniatures are ready and drum up interest shortly before release. Maybe they do already and this is their way? But it is getting kind of... annoying... to be honest.
I think people really need to have a sense of humor and some thicker skin.
Either they will come, or they will not but there is nothing wrong with GW taking a piss with the whole thing.
Warhams-77 wrote: I'm unable to verify the post at the moment. I also do not tend to react emotionally to stuff like this as it would not change anything to the better
Screenshot by Markain on www.gw-fanworld.net - from 40kFB
I'm not sure GW should post stuff like this. If they don't plan to release plastic Sisters they should say so straight away. If they do, keep silence until the miniatures are ready and drum up interest shortly before release. Maybe they do already and this is their way? But it is getting kind of... annoying... to be honest.
Or they could get ahead of the backlash that just sitting silently and not addressing any of the issues people are raising would ferment and defuse it by saying that plastic sisters are coming and tell people when.
What backlash?
The internet is a small minority of players of this game.
This book will come and go like a burp in the night.
Some will love it, some will hate it.
Two months from now nobody will be talking about it.
There is no backlash.
There may be people that believe that they are entitled to something, mistakenly mind you and they may feel that they will leverage this to force GW to say something but they would be mistaken.
This is a game of ups and downs, we live in their world and you either enjoy playing or it may be time to take a break until something comes along for you.
Remember, Sisters of Battle Adepta Sororitas can very easily become the next Tomb Kings/Lizard Men.
Remember, Sisters of Battle Adepta Sororitas can very easily become the next Tomb Kings/Lizard Men.
If Sisters became holy aligned demons that could fly into space in giant battle pyramids and summon dinosaurs, well, I think they'd get even MORE fans to be honest.
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Question:
Can Acolytes still take Hot Shot Lasguns?
Can they take Shotguns?
I heard that you can now take an Inquisitor in Termie Armour with Dual Daemon Blades, Is this True?
Can Termie Armour Inquisitors take Lightning Claws?
Can Krazypants Still call down his Orbital Bombardment Every Single Turn?
Waaaghpower wrote: Question, if anyone knows: Can Deathwatch Veterans still take Drop Pods from the book, or do they have to walk if they're not from the DW codex?
According to GoonBandito, the only option for transport for the DW squads in this book is the Corvus Blackstar.
Waaaghpower wrote: Question, if anyone knows: Can Deathwatch Veterans still take Drop Pods from the book, or do they have to walk if they're not from the DW codex?
According to GoonBandito, the only option for transport for the DW squads in this book is the Corvus Blackstar.
Aw, darn. The short range on most of their weapons is going to be pretty difficult to find much use for without Deep Striking.
Next question, or rather, next thought: It looks like the option for a Boltgun/Shotgun combo has been removed, by virtue of no longer letting anyone swap out their Chainsword for a Boltgun.
This has me worried that the Deathwatch codex is going to be FAQd or Errata'd or something, and I'm going to have 16 nicely customized Deathwatch Veterans with a weapon loadout that I can't use.
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Waaaghpower wrote: Question, if anyone knows: Can Deathwatch Veterans still take Drop Pods from the book, or do they have to walk if they're not from the DW codex?
According to GoonBandito, the only option for transport for the DW squads in this book is the Corvus Blackstar.
Aw, darn. The short range on most of their weapons is going to be pretty difficult to find much use for without Deep Striking.
Next question, or rather, next thought: It looks like the option for a Boltgun/Shotgun combo has been removed, by virtue of no longer letting anyone swap out their Chainsword for a Boltgun.
This has me worried that the Deathwatch codex is going to be FAQd or Errata'd or something, and I'm going to have 16 nicely customized Deathwatch Veterans with a weapon loadout that I can't use.
BloodGrin wrote: This is a game of ups and downs, we live in their world and you either enjoy playing or it may be time to take a break until something comes along for you.
I've been waiting since 3rd Ed. Getting a little restless at this point.
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2016/12/15 11:23:43
Subject: Re:Upcoming Imperial Agents Supplement :p30 Canoness model
BloodGrin wrote: This is a game of ups and downs, we live in their world and you either enjoy playing or it may be time to take a break until something comes along for you.
I've been waiting since 3rd Ed. Getting a little restless at this point.
Still playing and buying 40k in that time or just waiting until you get the update you want for your army of choice?
Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
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Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
Ditto the FB team, I guess?
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
Ditto the FB team, I guess?
Yes, although the FB team has been surprisingly consistent.
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Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
However the fact the named canoness says she can be taken in either codex:adeptus sororitas or codex:imperial agents suggests both are still valid. That's the only way the named cannoness makes sense.
Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
However the fact the named canoness says she can be taken in either codex:adeptus sororitas or codex:imperial agents suggests both are still valid. That's the only way the named cannoness makes sense.
Unless they update the digital codex Saturday to match the list in Codex: Imperial Agents...
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- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
Drider wrote: Hooray, new and contradictory information!
We now effectively have 2 codecs. Even if your restricted to taking units from one or the other in separate CADs it's not that much of a tax to run double cad to have celestine and 6e codex units in one cad and a priest and C:IA units as the other cad.
Customer service replies are almost never considered authoritative. E-mail them twice in an hour and get three different answers.
However the fact the named canoness says she can be taken in either codex:adeptus sororitas or codex:imperial agents suggests both are still valid. That's the only way the named cannoness makes sense.
Unless they update the digital codex Saturday to match the list in Codex: Imperial Agents...
I was assuming the same.
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Mr Morden wrote: Acolytes can have Land Raiders, Valkyrie (*) or Chimera as a transport (*) even if they can't start the game in it
I've seen this sentiment expressed several times throughout the thread, can we talk about it?
If an acolyte squad takes a sororitas rhino as it's dedicated transport it can absolutely start embarked on it. It doesn't matter if the unit entry is considered a different 'faction', the fact remains that you're not allying in sisters and taking rhino's from their force org, you're taking a dedicated transport that that unit has available.
Your unit being allowed to start in its dedicated transport is in play, the rule about taking allies' transports does not apply here.
Mr Morden wrote: Acolytes can have Land Raiders, Valkyrie (*) or Chimera as a transport (*) even if they can't start the game in it
I've seen this sentiment expressed several times throughout the thread, can we talk about it?
If an acolyte squad takes a sororitas rhino as it's dedicated transport it can absolutely start embarked on it. It doesn't matter if the unit entry is considered a different 'faction', the fact remains that you're not allying in sisters and taking rhino's from their force org, you're taking a dedicated transport that that unit has available.
Your unit being allowed to start in its dedicated transport is in play, the rule about taking allies' transports does not apply here.
I would hope that this is the case but its being debated already and consequently the rule is not clear I don't think - hence it needs a faq.
GW were pretty quick about FAQs for the Fury of Magnus books so they may be here - but they may also continue to be disinterested in the whole product.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
http://natfka.blogspot.fi/2016/12/rumors-return-of-saint-celestine.html via Whisky Priest on Faeit 212
The rumours coming out of GWHQ suggest that Celestine will be back next year in a forthcoming Black Crusade plotbook - the same kind of thing that has seen the reappearance of Magnus, and potentially other primarchs
Manager of my local store picked it up on his last product training day down at GW towers
Manager of my local store picked it up on his last product training day down at GW towers
That would be nice. Cool pic in the link.
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Manager of my local store picked it up on his last product training day down at GW towers
Natfka, some dude who isn't in the rumor tracker, "my manager heard".
Well, I'll put that on salt for the next year or so.
To be fair has anyone's rumours been reliable lately?
If only there were a place to check that!
Also, Whisky is now in the tracker. Also, Feth 'in the next year' rumors. They take forever to put down as FALSE. Not as bad as '18 months' or '2 year' rumors though.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
To be fair has anyone's rumours been reliable lately?
Lady Atia, Sad Panda, and a few others.
Natfka has always been guess work.
That's kind of Naftka's mission statement, though. It's not a rumor source, it's a rumor aggregator. They basically post all rumors and let the reader sort through them. That's why I rarely visit the site. It's about as reliable as trusting the old man who stands on the street corner and insists the government is placing tracking devices in our fine American cheeses.
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I don't understand why anyone would even think Naftka to be a source of rumours. All he does is post things sent to him or that he finds on the net. It would be the exact same thing as to have pretre on the rumour tracker. Afaik he/she isn't a source for rumours but compiles the sources, Naftka does the exact same thing but posts rumours sent to him or that he finds.
To be fair has anyone's rumours been reliable lately?
Lady Atia, Sad Panda, and a few others.
Natfka has always been guess work.
That's kind of Naftka's mission statement, though. It's not a rumor source, it's a rumor aggregator. They basically post all rumors and let the reader sort through them. That's why I rarely visit the site. It's about as reliable as trusting the old man who stands on the street corner and insists the government is placing tracking devices in our fine American cheeses.
Well, the glaring issue with that statement is that American cheeses are in any way "fine"
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1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
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That's kind of Naftka's mission statement, though. It's not a rumor source, it's a rumor aggregator. They basically post all rumors and let the reader sort through them. That's why I rarely visit the site. It's about as reliable as trusting the old man who stands on the street corner and insists the government is placing tracking devices in our fine American cheeses.
Yes, that is obviously crazy. Everyone knows that American cheeses are far from fine!
EDIT: Damn, ninjaed by Malus!
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MadCowCrazy wrote: I don't understand why anyone would even think Naftka to be a source of rumours. All he does is post things sent to him or that he finds on the net. It would be the exact same thing as to have pretre on the rumour tracker. Afaik he/she isn't a source for rumours but compiles the sources, Naftka does the exact same thing but posts rumours sent to him or that he finds.
There's plenty of archived discussion in the Rumor Tracker thread if you want to discuss it there.
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