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So for 5 points more than that load out normally would be the Canoness gets to single out sergeants (the only use i can see for this). I was kind of expecting a relic of some sort.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
So for 5 points more than that load out normally would be the Canoness gets to single out sergeants (the only use i can see for this). I was kind of expecting a relic of some sort.

It's more useful to single out special weapons like meltagunners. They can't look out sir.

NivlacSupreme wrote:
I was kind of expecting a relic of some sort.

She is a relic of a by gone time

But precision shots on multi shot heavy weapons? man thats awesome.

Rather than get this expensive book with next to nothing to offer, I am going to try to find White Dwarf Weekly Issue #65 so I can have hard copy Assassin rules. Anyone have a copy they are willing to part with?

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Rather than get this expensive book with next to nothing to offer, I am going to try to find White Dwarf Weekly Issue #65 so I can have hard copy Assassin rules. Anyone have a copy they are willing to part with?

I think you're looking for the swap shop.

I was hoping that you could take 3 engineseers and three units of servitors as a single formation, kind of like the unit in the Imperial Guard codex. Oh well, could be worse I guess.

 pretre wrote:

Khadorstompy wrote:
Huh interesting. Given that a "Unit" of Acolytes is just 1 model. You could take an Inquisitor with a single Acolyte, and couple of Jokaero to buff a Deathwatch, Adepta Sororitas, or GK Termi squad.

You don't combine with the DW, AS or GK squad.

I think this needs a FAQ. It says the unit is added to the formation, and it also says the formation is a single unit. It's not clear which units are included in that second rule.

It really looks like this is a money grab/stop gap measure. I'd be surprised if we don't see either a full codex or a War Zone with Formations in the next few months or year, maybe plastics. I don't think they would remove Celestine altogether. I'm picking it up to trundle along and get a hard copy. If the sisters models are metal, unlike everything else being produced right now, it may be safe to assume that they are killing old stock before a later release. I have faith even if I'm underwhelmed with this release. I'm still annoyed they didn't just release this codex in Shield of Baal, that would have been sensible. Fingers crossed, maybe we'll see that Inquisitor game we had heard about a while back. I don't believe the bin thing was a joke, I think they are still a month or more out.

 axisofentropy wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Khadorstompy wrote:
Huh interesting. Given that a "Unit" of Acolytes is just 1 model. You could take an Inquisitor with a single Acolyte, and couple of Jokaero to buff a Deathwatch, Adepta Sororitas, or GK Termi squad.

You don't combine with the DW, AS or GK squad.

I think this needs a FAQ. It says the unit is added to the formation, and it also says the formation is a single unit. It's not clear which units are included in that second rule.

Actually it is clear upon a 2nd look. It says the models marked with a 1* are included with the acolytes as a single formation which is everything but the Inquisitor and "extra" unit. So allot is going to depend on the wording the Jokaero.

imagine the 12" precision shot bubble in the backline with exorcists. having S8 ap 1 shots that can suddenly go as percision shots is very handy.

Hmm, bolter acolytes in power armor are looking tasty for 10pts. Some cool conversation opportunities as well. Not bad in a list with coteaz making them objective secured.

Hoping this is all just a ploy to get rid of the overstock of metal Sisters minis before they release plastic ones. Once the plastic is out, no one is going to want to buy metal minis for twice ( oh i do hope) the price. Nothing really is getting nerfed here as far as I can see, besides the lack of Celestine.

Once they release plastic sisters, demand for the metal ones will go to next to zero, thus this quick "money grab." Please tell me why this could be wrong, cause it makes sense to me.

Souba wrote:
imagine the 12" precision shot bubble in the backline with exorcists. having S8 ap 1 shots that can suddenly go as percision shots is very handy.

Why not put a few of her out there? She's not listed as unique as far as the datasheet shows.

 mmzero252 wrote:

Souba wrote:
imagine the 12" precision shot bubble in the backline with exorcists. having S8 ap 1 shots that can suddenly go as percision shots is very handy.

Why not put a few of her out there? She's not listed as unique as far as the datasheet shows.

Because you'll still need a useful warlord like Uriah or a generic canoness with eternal warrior to not always give up slay the warlord points.

Also, with the Sororitas Command Squad moved to Elites, do they still require a Canoness to be purchased?

 Thunderfrog wrote:

 mmzero252 wrote:

Souba wrote:
imagine the 12" precision shot bubble in the backline with exorcists. having S8 ap 1 shots that can suddenly go as percision shots is very handy.

Why not put a few of her out there? She's not listed as unique as far as the datasheet shows.

Because you'll still need a useful warlord like Uriah or a generic canoness with eternal warrior to not always give up slay the warlord points.

Also, with the Sororitas Command Squad moved to Elites, do they still require a Canoness to be purchased?

no, just like regular command squads or honor guard of space marines. they are a "normal" elite unit.

 Thunderfrog wrote:

 mmzero252 wrote:

Souba wrote:
imagine the 12" precision shot bubble in the backline with exorcists. having S8 ap 1 shots that can suddenly go as percision shots is very handy.

Why not put a few of her out there? She's not listed as unique as far as the datasheet shows.

Because you'll still need a useful warlord like Uriah or a generic canoness with eternal warrior to not always give up slay the warlord points.

Also, with the Sororitas Command Squad moved to Elites, do they still require a Canoness to be purchased?

I've had a decent bit of success just by taking a couple canonesses before. Plus you can easily still fit in Uriah alongside them.Multiple CADs are going to be easier than before now that priests are an HQ choice.

Warhams-77 wrote:

Remember, Sisters of Battle Adepta Sororitas can very easily become the next Tomb Kings/Lizard Men.

If Sisters became holy aligned demons that could fly into space in giant battle pyramids and summon dinosaurs, well, I think they'd get even MORE fans to be honest.

Just have to share...

 dan2026 wrote:
A new Sisters book has to be coming.

I'm shocked. Those rules are terrible. Veridyan is like the most iconic figure in the SoB army next to Celestine and those are her stats?

Everything about her screams relics. Her sword, unique. Her bolter, unique. Her armor, unique. Her servoskull eye tech, unique. Yet they're no special rules for any of it? Seriously GW? Facepalming so hard right now. I just don't get it. Are the people writing the rules for these models just lazy or incompetent?

Are Inquisitorial Psykers (the ones with the Care Bear stare communal blast power) still a thing? Or did they get cut?

So you take the Canoness Veridyan, 3 units of Command squads and give them all heavy bolters, 3 units to Retributors and give them all heavy bolters for 27 heavy bolters total (15 from command squad and 12 from Retributors.
You can now put out 81 S5 Ap4 precision shots, 36 of which can be rending 2 times per game (if you also add a banner to the Retributors).
Fleet, Crusader and Move Through Cover is completely useless on command squad though...

 MadCowCrazy wrote:
So you take the Canoness Veridyan, 3 units of Command squads and give them all heavy bolters, 3 units to Retributors and give them all heavy bolters for 27 heavy bolters total (15 from command squad and 12 from Retributors.
You can now put out 81 S5 Ap4 precision shots, 36 of which can be rending 2 times per game (if you also add a banner to the Retributors).
Fleet, Crusader and Move Through Cover is completely useless on command squad though...

I can definitely see the synergy between Veridyan and Retributors, I'm just super disappointed Veridyan does not possess any relics. Her aesthetic is completely unique. No other armor/ power swords, eye tech look like that in the entire game. I thought for certain her power armor would have a 2/3+ invul, her sword would be hitting at AP2, and her servo eye would yield something...

Sisters are a low/bottom tier army. Would it have killed GW to give sisters players a special character that other armies envy?

 Jimsolo wrote:
Are Inquisitorial Psykers (the ones with the Care Bear stare communal blast power) still a thing? Or did they get cut?

They got cut a fair while ago, when the Digital Codex got updated to 7th Edition, and changed them to instead roll on the rulebook powers. Codex: Imperial Agents removed the Psyker Henchman completely. However you can add an Astropath (from the Adepta Astra Telepathica) to the Inquisitorial Henchman Warband formation. They're kinda like the Regimental Advisor that you can buy for Imperial Guard Company Command Squads (same points cost and statline), except these ones can be upgraded to have ML2 and a refractor field and have a rule that lets you re-roll reserve rolls on your next turn if you manifest a power.

I just want to know... why take out St Celestine? It's not like there isn't a model for it.

Characters is a large part of 40k, the fluff, the Name, its a bigger part than many give credit for it.

 Amishprn86 wrote:
I just want to know... why take out St Celestine? It's not like there isn't a model for it.

Characters is a large part of 40k, the fluff, the Name, its a bigger part than many give credit for it.

The model just went 'last chance to buy' and I think is now sold out.

Smart money says there will a sisters relaunch in coming months with a new St Celestine.

Equally-Smart money says they're going away forever in the coming months.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
I just want to know... why take out St Celestine? It's not like there isn't a model for it.

Characters is a large part of 40k, the fluff, the Name, its a bigger part than many give credit for it.

The model just went 'last chance to buy' and I think is now sold out.

Smart money says there will a sisters relaunch in coming months with a new St Celestine.

Equally-Smart money says they're going away forever in the coming months.

I don't want to think smart anymore :(

 dan2026 wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Amishprn86 wrote:
I just want to know... why take out St Celestine? It's not like there isn't a model for it.

Characters is a large part of 40k, the fluff, the Name, its a bigger part than many give credit for it.

The model just went 'last chance to buy' and I think is now sold out.

Smart money says there will a sisters relaunch in coming months with a new St Celestine.

Equally-Smart money says they're going away forever in the coming months.

I don't want to think smart anymore :(

I didn't think about that honestly b.c I dont believe that will happen. SoB been mocked at for years now.

 buddha wrote:
Hmm, bolter acolytes in power armor are looking tasty for 10pts. Some cool conversation opportunities as well. Not bad in a list with coteaz making them objective secured.

How do Acolytes in power armor with bolters stack up to Sisters? pros, cons?

 cuda1179 wrote:

 buddha wrote:
Hmm, bolter acolytes in power armor are looking tasty for 10pts. Some cool conversation opportunities as well. Not bad in a list with coteaz making them objective secured.

How do Acolytes in power armor with bolters stack up to Sisters? pros, cons?

Sisters get Shield of Faith (6+ Invuln and Adman Will) and Act of Faith (Preferred Enemy for a turn for basic Sisters),
Sisters have bolt guns, bolt pistol and grenades as stock.
Sisters are also BS4 rather than the Acolytes BS3
Sisters can have a Superior who is LD9 and +1A
Sisters can have squads of up to 20

They are 12pts.

Acolytes can have Land Raiders, Valkyrie (*) or Chimera as a transport (*) even if they can't start the game in it but that's really the only advantage if you are just upgrading them as Power armoured troops and you still have to buy them weapons as they only have laspistol and Chainsword as stock

Well then, looks like that extra 2 points for sisters is well spent.