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I'd agree that whilst Moss is very much a comedy favourite, Richard Ayoade has pretty much only played a variation on that template.
Me, I prefer left-field relatively unknown actors to take over as The Doctor. As a role, it offers lots of opportunity to mix up the subtext and vary his personality, if not his goals. So a good Doctor to me is one we didn't see coming.
And with Missy, the producers can pick from anyone, which seems interesting and encouraging.
I guess it all depends on where the new Show Runner wants to take the series. Much as I've enjoyed Moffat's run (I really don't get the antipathy towards him), I'd like to see more moral quandaries for the Doctor - he's been a bit too 'oh sod it, it's probably for the best' since the revival.
Here's a much and rightly loved scene, showing Doctor Who at it's absolute finest to explain what I mean...
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I haven't acted since, some would say I didn't act during, but er, er, those would be unkind people. I did my best.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Garth Mherengi's Dark Place, Man to Man with Dean Learner, IT Crowd, couple of tech shows, various other no-mark 'comedy' tripe shows involving the cretins behind Mighty Boosh (Vic and Bob rip off without the skill, warmth or charm)
His comedy roles all seem to me to be variations on a theme.
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Only if she could play Who as M. A semi-sinister Who would be kind of cool.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
No, clearly the time has come for Samuel L. Jackson to play the role. "I've had it with these motherfething Daleks on this motherfething TARDIS!"
"Through the darkness of future past, the magician longs to see.
One chants out between two worlds: Fire, walk with me." - Twin Peaks
"You listen to me. While I will admit to a certain cynicism, the fact is that I am a naysayer and hatchetman in the fight against violence. I pride myself in taking a punch and I'll gladly take another because I choose to live my life in the company of Gandhi and King. My concerns are global. I reject absolutely revenge, aggression, and retaliation. The foundation of such a method... is love. I love you Sheriff Truman." - Twin Peaks
Tannhauser42 wrote: No, clearly the time has come for Samuel L. Jackson to play the role. "I've had it with these motherfething Daleks on this motherfething TARDIS!"
To the Cyberman leader: "and when I lay my hands upon you, you will know my name is The Lord!"
Cyberman leader: "oh crap this Doctor's hardcore. Lets get out of here!"
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
As long as 'psychic paper' remains a thing of the past. Worst. Invention. Ever.
The Doctor doesn't need it. He's The Doctor. He's known well and known long that provided you walk about like you're supposed to be there, and are actually in charge you'll get away with it!
Psychic Paper undermined the Doctor's brilliance.
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Guys guys guys... you're overlooking the replacement Doctor that the show has already told us comes after Capaldi (at some point)
TOM BAKER!
Remember the 50th anniversary episode? The Doctor is shown to regenerate into Tom Baker at some point in the future. So, why not now? He's getting on in years, and if we're gonna make it happen it needs to be sooner rather than later.
Alternatively, now that Disney has managed to bring Pete Cushing back from the dead, maybe the BBC can ask to borrow/rent him for a few seasons. Doesn't he deserve a second bite at the apple? I'd love to see what Zombie Pete Cushing would do with the roll, especially since he would have more freedom to develop his own interpretation of the character than he did when he made those horrible, horrible movies. And you can't say he's too old for the role now that Capaldi has made it okay for older actors to play the Doctor, again!
And you can't say he's too dead for the role now that Rogue One has made it okay for deceased actors to play in movies.
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squidhills wrote: Guys guys guys... you're overlooking the replacement Doctor that the show has already told us comes after Capaldi (at some point)
TOM BAKER!
Remember the 50th anniversary episode? The Doctor is shown to regenerate into Tom Baker at some point in the future. So, why not now? He's getting on in years, and if we're gonna make it happen it needs to be sooner rather than later.
Alternatively, now that Disney has managed to bring Pete Cushing back from the dead, maybe the BBC can ask to borrow/rent him for a few seasons. Doesn't he deserve a second bite at the apple? I'd love to see what Zombie Pete Cushing would do with the roll, especially since he would have more freedom to develop his own interpretation of the character than he did when he made those horrible, horrible movies. And you can't say he's too old for the role now that Capaldi has made it okay for older actors to play the Doctor, again!
And you can't say he's too dead for the role now that Rogue One has made it okay for deceased actors to play in movies.
This is surprisingly persuasive. The question is, does dead Peter Cushing cost more than a new living actor?
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Ahtman wrote: I saw someone say Hugh Laurie and you know I would be ok with that. It won't happen, of course, but it would be interesting to see.
With Stephen Fry as the sidekick / love interest.
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“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
And Missy was absolutely awful. She was an abomination who shows exactly why we shouldn't have a female doctor for the sake of it, her personality was so vastly different from the Master that she might as well have not been the same character.
The Master's personality has changed significantly over the decades. Modern-era Master was totally different to Classic Master.
And Missy was pretty fantastic.
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I could get behind Atwell in the role. If they're moving on from Capaldi they'll probably avoid another older Doctor, so Laurie is probably a non-starter. TBH though I'd rather they go with someone nobody expects.
"Your society's broken, so who should we blame? Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it? No, lets blame the people with no power and no money and those immigrants who don't even have the vote. Yea, it must be their fething fault." - Iain M Banks
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Compel wrote: Hayley Atwell would be great, isn't she leading on a new show though? - Conviction. Though, it wouldn't surprise me if that gets cancelled, the trailers I saw of it were a little... Hmm...
Conviction got cancelled before the season even finished as far as I saw...
It was put in the same time-slot as "Castle" had been (10am Mondays on ABC here in the US), but that doesn't really work out too great except in some weird circumstances.
Thinking outside the box is required.
Chewbacca as the Doctor.
Jay and Bob as his assistants.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
twice the scope for confusion and plot twists, the opportunity for the Doctor to act as his own companion
(although I can't think of who to cast as them except Jedward, and that would be too horrible to contemplate)
Van Damme. Have you seen Double Impact! He can do it.
Ah, the good old days, when a 14 year old feeder would sit through an hour and a half of dubious script and wooden acting for a ten second shot of some blonde girl's bewbs.
We were once so close to heaven, St. Peter came out and gave us medals; declaring us "The nicest of the damned".
“Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”
No great loss on Capaldi I wasn't impressed though the scripts and companion had a lot to do with that.
And can we have a companion who's not from 21st C England?
And not a 20-something girl?
I liked Donna just because she wasn't as samey as Rose and Amy and wassername and the other one.
I'd love a future space pilot or a caveman or something...
With all of time and space I think they can find someone more interesting.
Oh yea!
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Kid_Kyoto wrote: And can we have a companion who's not from 21st C England?
And not a 20-something girl?
I liked Donna just because she wasn't as samey as Rose and Amy and wassername and the other one.
I'd love a future space pilot or a caveman or something...
With all of time and space I think they can find someone more interesting.
Leela, Adrick, Ace, etc.
From vague memory, they were mostly in the later half of the original series.
Recently, there's been Cpt Jack, but not many others.
Oh, and K9.
There were a few nearly-ran companions. Astrid and others, who didn't make it.
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Victoria, Jamie, Susan of course (who was Gallifreyan), Romana (1 and 2), Kameleon (still not a worse assistant than....) Adric, Nyssa, Turlough (5th Doctor had the best range of assistants really).
So there's definitely precedent, and we need more. Enough trying to make it hip and down and rap with the kids. Gimme silly sci-fi and curiously hard hitting moral quandaries. And consign Psychic Paper to the dustbin.
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