The Gathering Storm Part III: Rise of the Primarch -- twitch broadcast 3.3.17

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**Xeones7**

I think we may get another trilogy of campaign books focusing on 'the bad guys' coming April, May and June. Culminating in the release of that Mortarion model?

Would lead us timely into July and 8th edition

**Backspacehacker**

Those are definitely fallen behind him, not only are they in black armor they are also in HH armor, and using HH weapons.

**AllSeeingSkink**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
But seriously, some chuckle head has the WD and that's the best picture they could take?

Wouldn't be a leaked picture thread without HBMC complaining about the photography

**warboss**

Verviedi wrote:
...Oh no... far too much goddamn filigree on Guilliman's armor. That singlehandedly damages the model for me.

Agreed. There are parts of the FW version that I don't love but at least the armor looks ornate whereas the much thicker raised armor detail on this one just looks garish. I don't know if that is a limitation of plastics manufacturing or just a Stormcast Eternal style cranked up to 11 superdudebro design choice but I'm not a fan of it. I am also surprised that they went with Guilliman as well for reasons I stated earlier so kudos of a sort to GW for that at least.

**em_en_oh_pee**

warboss wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
...Oh no... far too much goddamn filigree on Guilliman's armor. That singlehandedly damages the model for me.

Agreed. There are parts of the FW version that I don't love but at least the armor looks ornate whereas the much thicker raised armor detail on this one just looks garish. I don't know if that is a limitation of plastics manufacturing or just a Stormcast Eternal style cranked up to 11 superdudebro design choice but I'm not a fan of it. I am also surprised that they went with Guilliman as well for reasons I stated earlier so kudos of a sort to GW for that at least.

It was probably partially motivated to make him absolutely different from the FW model, though, too.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

warboss wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
...Oh no... far too much goddamn filigree on Guilliman's armor. That singlehandedly damages the model for me.

Agreed. There are parts of the FW version that I don't love but at least the armor looks ornate whereas the much thicker raised armor detail on this one just looks garish. I don't know if that is a limitation of plastics manufacturing or just a Stormcast Eternal style cranked up to 11 superdudebro design choice but I'm not a fan of it. I am also surprised that they went with Guilliman as well for reasons I stated earlier so kudos of a sort to GW for that at least.

Oh god it looks terrible.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Hmmmm, really like Cypher model, never give a toss about Grey Knights... and...

I think FW is going to sell a lot of Roboute Guilliman models...

**Backspacehacker**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:
Hmmmm, really like Cypher model, never give a toss about Grey Knights... and...

I think FW is going to sell a lot of Roboute Guilliman models...

His perorations just look so outta place. Maybe its the angel of the photo but his legs look WAY to long, and his torso is super small compared ot the rest of him

**Warhams-77**

Expensive months, especially February and March

**Nicorex**

Looks like Gilly has had a pretty good growth spurt while he was in stasis.

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I wonder if they put him in a Ultra modified dreadknight type suit? Look at the mech works / pistons under the knee plates. Also he had jumped up in size by like 50%.

**TheDraconicLord**

Nicorex wrote:
Looks like Gilly has had a pretty good growth spurt while he was in stasis.

He did? The Primarch have always been giants*, is there anything different in him?

*Except for Alpharius and Omegon.

**Kanluwen**

Cypher needs a better picture, but I'm digging him.
Guilleman, as mentioned, is pretty ornate. I like him though. He looks like how the Ultramarines would clad a living demi-god of an obscure age of myth and legend.

The Grey Knight is apparently Mordrak, someone pointed out the oath shield on his pauldron is Mordrak's.

**Nicorex**

Well the FW 30K version of him he is standing on a 40mm base and looks to be about 1/3 bigger than a standered terminator.
Now he looks like he is 2/3 the size of a contemptor dread. he is also now on a 60mm base (from the looks of it).

**Asmodai**

We've almost reached the point where you can field the old Inquisitor-line Captain Artemis in a 40K game without looking out of place.

**kronk**

TheDraconicLord wrote:
Nicorex wrote:
Looks like Gilly has had a pretty good growth spurt while he was in stasis.

He did? The Primarch have always been giants*, is there anything different in him?

*Except for Alpharius and Omegon.

I think he means if you compare him to the FW version of Guilliman, from the Horus Heresy.

**djones520**

Kanluwen wrote:
Cypher needs a better picture, but I'm digging him.
Guilleman, as mentioned, is pretty ornate. I like him though. He looks like how the Ultramarines would clad a living demi-god of an obscure age of myth and legend.

The Grey Knight is apparently Mordrak, someone pointed out the oath shield on his pauldron is Mordrak's.

I do like Cypher a lot. He's going to become my new Praetor for my 1st Legion.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Nicorex wrote:
Well the FW 30K version of him he is standing on a 40mm base and looks to be about 1/3 bigger than a standered terminator.
Now he looks like he is 2/3 the size of a contemptor dread. he is also now on a 60mm base (from the looks of it).

He's also standing on a giant rock though compared to the other miniatures around him.

All in all he looks to be the same height, it's just that his torso is wider and more triangular, his pauldrons are greaves are larger and chunkier, his fist and sword are way larger, his feet are also larger and his legs don't connect to his hips naturally.

So basically his proportions are even more out of wack than they should be.

**eohall**

Kanluwen wrote:

The Grey Knight is apparently Mordrak, someone pointed out the oath shield on his pauldron is Mordrak's.

I wonder if this means we'll get a new Huron Blackheart? More likely they'll just kill him like Abby to save the trouble

**Stevefamine**

I absolutely hate the direction they took him. Ultramarines already had a bad enough reputation. Trash model

**Nevelon**

djones520 wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Cypher needs a better picture, but I'm digging him.
Guilleman, as mentioned, is pretty ornate. I like him though. He looks like how the Ultramarines would clad a living demi-god of an obscure age of myth and legend.

The Grey Knight is apparently Mordrak, someone pointed out the oath shield on his pauldron is Mordrak's.

I do like Cypher a lot. He's going to become my new Praetor for my 1st Legion.

I was thinking a Moritat Consul for the 30k side of my Ultras.

The question is how much clean up he would take. Moritats seem to be a little on the roguish side, so a few extra skulls would not out of line. Would need to check for chaos stars or any other unacceptable markings.

**deleted20250424**

Someone build a diorama with Papa Smurf grappling with a Traitor Knight.

I wonder, if those are Fallen, if there will be a kit for them as well or if they are just FW HH minis.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Nicorex wrote:
Well the FW 30K version of him he is standing on a 40mm base and looks to be about 1/3 bigger than a standered terminator.
Now he looks like he is 2/3 the size of a contemptor dread. he is also now on a 60mm base (from the looks of it).

He's also standing on a giant rock though compared to the other miniatures around him.

All in all he looks to be the same height, it's just that his torso is wider and more triangular, his pauldrons are greaves are larger and chunkier, his fist and sword are way larger, his feet are also larger and his legs don't connect to his hips naturally.

So basically his proportions are even more out of wack than they should be.

Which I find oddly irritating.

It's long established in the background that whereas Astartes do look out of proportion (gigantism essentially), the Primarchs weren't. They were just much bigger, but still in the typical human scale.

I'm hoping it's just the photo - which would be nothing new for GW. Take the new BB Slayer. From the front, he's doing beard levitation. But the rear view? Clearly mid-leap, and the body has a natural looking flow to it.

**pretre**

shinros wrote:
Rippy wrote:
Wait Abadon dying? Are they really that sick of the meming? No, bad call in my opinion.

It's faeit as always take it with a giant mountain of salt and perhaps a truck of salt on top of it. I do find it kinda strange abbadon does not have a new model yet.

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/abbadon-killed-last-book-called-rise-of.html

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1. the bolt pistol may belong to Cypher
2. three books for gathering storms series
3. each book will have a trio of characters
4. last book is called the rise of legend/Primarch?, which obviously include a Primarch
5. last trio of characters will be: Grandpa Smurf, Cypher and a Grey Knight Master (my source saw photos of both Cypher and Knight Master, but didn't see Gradpa Smurf yet)
6. then 8th edition
7. Abaddon is likely to be killed during the last book, GW staffs are jokingly saying killed by the bolt pistol
8. dwarf release and gryph hound release should still be there, but the focus is to finish off gathering storm series and launch 8th edition

Add on
40k new edition's content will be much reduced, but still bit longer than AoS rules, around 30 pages, likely release date will be summer. after Book III of the gathering storm.

This is clearly a mix of 'I got WD' and 'I'm guessing!'

**Requizen**

I really wish there was a way to legitimately get the lore from these books without paying full price. I don't play Imperium or Eldar but all this story is interesting to me.

**djones520**

So that sword he's rocking, maybe I haven't seen it in here, but does anyone else thing that looks remarkably similar to the sword the Emperor used to fight Horus with?

**Nicorex**

Cypher has no "Chaos" symbols on him. He never has. He just does not have any DA or IoM symbols

**pretre**

Gremore wrote:
It's always strange when a rumour on Faeit proves correct, makes me question reality.

They usually don't get credit when they post after the WD is already in the wild.

**Kanluwen**

pretre wrote:
shinros wrote:
Rippy wrote:
Wait Abadon dying? Are they really that sick of the meming? No, bad call in my opinion.

It's faeit as always take it with a giant mountain of salt and perhaps a truck of salt on top of it. I do find it kinda strange abbadon does not have a new model yet.

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/abbadon-killed-last-book-called-rise-of.html

via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
1. the bolt pistol may belong to Cypher
2. three books for gathering storms series
3. each book will have a trio of characters
4. last book is called the rise of legend/Primarch?, which obviously include a Primarch
5. last trio of characters will be: Grandpa Smurf, Cypher and a Grey Knight Master (my source saw photos of both Cypher and Knight Master, but didn't see Gradpa Smurf yet)
6. then 8th edition
7. Abaddon is likely to be killed during the last book, GW staffs are jokingly saying killed by the bolt pistol
8. dwarf release and gryph hound release should still be there, but the focus is to finish off gathering storm series and launch 8th edition

Add on
40k new edition's content will be much reduced, but still bit longer than AoS rules, around 30 pages, likely release date will be summer. after Book III of the gathering storm.

This is clearly a mix of 'I got WD' and 'I'm guessing!'

You mean "Someone else got WD and posted pictures" and "I'm guessing"

**Lord of Deeds**

Okay....I'm stoked. For someone who has played since the earliest days of Rogue Trader, this is a pretty seminal moment to me. As other's have said, this is only setting things up for big and better things. The second seige of Terra campaign is going to be awesome.

**Backspacehacker**

You know i only want one thing from the gathering storm series, just one thing and every change they make will be alright. That one thing is....

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