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2017/02/27 14:49:00
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/02/27 14:54:19
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Lol, those ridiculous marine prices. I can sell them 15 euros per squad to people in my country. I wonder, how much will GW charge for Custodes... 50 euros per 5?
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CragHack wrote: Lol, those ridiculous marine prices. I can sell them 15 euros per squad to people in my country.
Not when Burning of Prospero goes away and you don't have a way to get Mark III models at a discount.
I wonder, how much will GW charge for Custodes... 50 euros per 5?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Custodes and Sisters of Silence bumped to 10 for $60 or something like that. They seemed to be pretty popular, and they've learned a bit from the mistakes of the Stormcast/Fyreslayer prices.
2017/02/27 15:01:47
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
CragHack wrote: Lol, those ridiculous marine prices. I can sell them 15 euros per squad to people in my country.
Not when Burning of Prospero goes away and you don't have a way to get Mark III models at a discount.
I wonder, how much will GW charge for Custodes... 50 euros per 5?
I wouldn't be surprised to see Custodes and Sisters of Silence bumped to 10 for $60 or something like that. They seemed to be pretty popular, and they've learned a bit from the mistakes of the Stormcast/Fyreslayer prices.
Calth is still up, so i doubt it's going to be OOP any time soon
Well, FW is currently pricing them 30 quid/5 in their bundles, so I doubt that too. Though I'd wish.
So if I wanted a Robot Ghoulman do you think there will be a flood of them onto ebay resulting in nice low prices the same as the Characters from Calth and Prospero?
I think there is a good base for a Slanneshi Demon Prince with all that gilt,bling and excess ornamentation. Replace the blue with shocking pink or purple and leave the gold.
Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis
2017/02/27 16:12:26
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Nostromodamus wrote: So he's going to The Rock? I thought he was headed toward Terra?
The Changeling let Luther out of his cell in Part I
...... ....I thought he was stopped just short of doing that ....
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2017/02/27 16:18:37
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
SeanDrake wrote: So if I wanted a Robot Ghoulman do you think there will be a flood of them onto ebay resulting in nice low prices the same as the Characters from Calth and Prospero?
I think there is a good base for a Slanneshi Demon Prince with all that gilt,bling and excess ornamentation. Replace the blue with shocking pink or purple and leave the gold.
You might be better off buying your own set, keeping Rowboat Girlyman and selling the other bits. I expect he'll be the pricier one of the three models on eBay.
Dead account, no takesy-backsies
2017/02/27 16:59:49
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
SeanDrake wrote: So if I wanted a Robot Ghoulman do you think there will be a flood of them onto ebay resulting in nice low prices the same as the Characters from Calth and Prospero?
I think there is a good base for a Slanneshi Demon Prince with all that gilt,bling and excess ornamentation. Replace the blue with shocking pink or purple and leave the gold.
You might be better off buying your own set, keeping Rowboat Girlyman and selling the other bits. I expect he'll be the pricier one of the three models on eBay.
I think him and Cypher both are going to fetch a pretty penny, while the GK is the dud of the box.
2017/02/27 17:05:14
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
SeanDrake wrote: So if I wanted a Robot Ghoulman do you think there will be a flood of them onto ebay resulting in nice low prices the same as the Characters from Calth and Prospero?
I think there is a good base for a Slanneshi Demon Prince with all that gilt,bling and excess ornamentation. Replace the blue with shocking pink or purple and leave the gold.
You might be better off buying your own set, keeping Rowboat Girlyman and selling the other bits. I expect he'll be the pricier one of the three models on eBay.
I think him and Cypher both are going to fetch a pretty penny, while the GK is the dud of the box.
Eh, it IS a generic Librarian with a Daemonhammer. It has a specific niche to fulfill.
CaptainStabby wrote: If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote: BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote: Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote: ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
2017/02/27 17:07:01
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
SeanDrake wrote: So if I wanted a Robot Ghoulman do you think there will be a flood of them onto ebay resulting in nice low prices the same as the Characters from Calth and Prospero?
I think there is a good base for a Slanneshi Demon Prince with all that gilt,bling and excess ornamentation. Replace the blue with shocking pink or purple and leave the gold.
You might be better off buying your own set, keeping Rowboat Girlyman and selling the other bits. I expect he'll be the pricier one of the three models on eBay.
I think him and Cypher both are going to fetch a pretty penny, while the GK is the dud of the box.
Pretty much. Cypher and Big Blue are all I want out of that box. Though I can probably find a use for the GK.
2017/02/27 17:11:58
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
CragHack wrote: Lol, those ridiculous marine prices. I can sell them 15 euros per squad to people in my country.
Not when Burning of Prospero goes away and you don't have a way to get Mark III models at a discount.
And when is that? Battle at calth is still on sale...MKIV marines have been individually available for a long time. Still no sign of BaC discontinuation...
2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2017/02/27 17:49:44
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
CragHack wrote: Lol, those ridiculous marine prices. I can sell them 15 euros per squad to people in my country.
Not when Burning of Prospero goes away and you don't have a way to get Mark III models at a discount.
And when is that? Battle at calth is still on sale...MKIV marines have been individually available for a long time. Still no sign of BaC discontinuation...
Who knows? Execution Force is still on shelves, despite being "Last Chance to Buy" for quite some time.
2017/02/27 18:00:35
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Nostromodamus wrote: So he's going to The Rock? I thought he was headed toward Terra?
The Changeling let Luther out of his cell in Part I
...... ....I thought he was stopped just short of doing that ....
I don't think so?
Oh dear. I'll just have to re-read it. Shucks.
The Changeling didn’t get anywhere near Luther. At best he opened up a couple dozen cells before he was stopped.
As far as we know no Fallen actually escaped the Rock itself.
2017/02/27 19:06:20
Subject: Re:Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
RazorEdge wrote:Guys, did you know that the 30k Horus Heresy novels are NOT CANON?
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Davor wrote: He's on the brink of death, comes out fighting like nothing has ever happened? Is this what people mean he's a Mary Sue?
Seems it's linked to Ynnead and Cawl.
We've seen from Part II that Ynnead has serious power over life and death - including returning Thousand Son Rubricae back to full life.
I'd imagine that Ynnead is able to stave off his death, Cawl bungs him in a life support suit, and in time Guilliman is able to heal his otherwise mortal wound.
This is speculation. Not rumour.
That is what I sort of thought. My guess is
Spoiler:
he comes out of statis, he dies, but then he is brought back to life. Not sure if this is how it can go since I couldn't buy the first two books so not sure exactly what is going on. That said if true, couldn't this be done for anyone and nobody would ever die? If anything, they could do the same for the Emperor no?
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2017/02/27 20:46:30
Subject: Re:Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Davor wrote: That is what I sort of thought. My guess is
Spoiler:
he comes out of statis, he dies, but then he is brought back to life. Not sure if this is how it can go since I couldn't buy the first two books so not sure exactly what is going on. That said if true, couldn't this be done for anyone and nobody would ever die? If anything, they could do the same for the Emperor no?
Spoiler:
The Ynnari Eldar(specifically Yvraine) are the ones who have the power to bring back the dead though. Healing/resurrecting RG is part of there plan to use the Imperium as a meatshield. Saving every pointless Mon-keigh that falls is probably not worth the hassle in there eyes as there's always more where they came from, unlike the precious and irreplaceable members of there own race.
As for using it on the Emperor? Again probably not part of there plan to make the Aeldari great again Even if it was there could be problems, the Ynnari might not have enough power to bring back him back. Mortals even a primarch like RG are one thing. Pulling a being who is more like a minor warp power back into the flesh is something else entirely. That's even assuming the Emperor doesn't resist or that the Eldar are able to approach him(there's a part in the Beast arises series where a Shadowseer enters the Imperial palace and finds being so close to the Emperor distinctly unpleasant)
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2017/02/27 21:50:09
Subject: Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Nostromodamus wrote: So he's going to The Rock? I thought he was headed toward Terra?
My guess is that he will lead Guilliman to the Emperor and afterwards he will take Guilliman to Rock.
Because
Spoiler:
he is one of the few people beside Emps who actually knows where Lion is, after earning forgiveness from Emps it is only logical that he will try to wake up the Lord of the Angels. So Imperium will have two Primarchs returning in the end.
"I do not care who knows the truth now, tomorrow, or in ten thousand years. Loyalty is its own reward."
2017/02/27 22:17:22
Subject: Re:Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Davor wrote: That is what I sort of thought. My guess is
Spoiler:
he comes out of statis, he dies, but then he is brought back to life. Not sure if this is how it can go since I couldn't buy the first two books so not sure exactly what is going on. That said if true, couldn't this be done for anyone and nobody would ever die? If anything, they could do the same for the Emperor no?
Spoiler:
The Ynnari Eldar(specifically Yvraine) are the ones who have the power to bring back the dead though. Healing/resurrecting RG is part of there plan to use the Imperium as a meatshield. Saving every pointless Mon-keigh that falls is probably not worth the hassle in there eyes as there's always more where they came from, unlike the precious and irreplaceable members of there own race.
As for using it on the Emperor? Again probably not part of there plan to make the Aeldari great again Even if it was there could be problems, the Ynnari might not have enough power to bring back him back. Mortals even a primarch like RG are one thing. Pulling a being who is more like a minor warp power back into the flesh is something else entirely. That's even assuming the Emperor doesn't resist or that the Eldar are able to approach him(there's a part in the Beast arises series where a Shadowseer enters the Imperial palace and finds being so close to the Emperor distinctly unpleasant)
Thank you for that. Learned a bit and nice to see other ways with good explanation.
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".
2017/02/27 22:29:16
Subject: Re:Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
Nostromodamus wrote: So he's going to The Rock? I thought he was headed toward Terra?
The Changeling let Luther out of his cell in Part I
...... ....I thought he was stopped just short of doing that ....
I don't think so?
Oh dear. I'll just have to re-read it. Shucks.
The Changeling didn’t get anywhere near Luther. At best he opened up a couple dozen cells before he was stopped.
As far as we know no Fallen actually escaped the Rock itself.
This wouldn't be the first time (I actually missed an entire chapter the first time I read through Fall of Cadia) but... when does that happen? I remember the sidebar
Nostromodamus wrote: So he's going to The Rock? I thought he was headed toward Terra?
The Changeling let Luther out of his cell in Part I
...... ....I thought he was stopped just short of doing that ....
I don't think so?
Oh dear. I'll just have to re-read it. Shucks.
The Changeling didn’t get anywhere near Luther. At best he opened up a couple dozen cells before he was stopped.
As far as we know no Fallen actually escaped the Rock itself.
This wouldn't be the first time (I actually missed an entire chapter the first time I read through Fall of Cadia) but... when does that happen? I remember the sidebar
Spoiler:
implying Cypher was doing something somewhere
but nothing about the Changeling?
I believe there may be some confusion here. The Changeling incident happened in the "Wrath of Magnus" not part one of the Gathering Storm.
2017/02/27 23:34:00
Subject: Re:Gathering Storm III: Rise of the Primarch Cinematic trailer p42
GoatboyBeta wrote: With them being released the week after I wonder if part3 will have 40k rules for the Tartatos terminators?
That would be nice. I wouldn't mind seeing them in White Dwarf as well. But I want 40K rules for Plasma Blasters and Reaper Autocannons. It would be nice if they gave Cataphractii to DA and Chaos in this book though.
I really want a Fallen Strike Force in the same way we got the Ulthwe stuff. Have a couple profiles for Fallen Angels (Veterans, Terminators, etc) and have a slot for Cypher.
(sorry)
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