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Awwwwwww, he's petting his pet gryphound

Also dark angels saymbol in bottom right. Maybe imperium secundus just came too early in the Black Library series and RG will make another go at it.

I like that quote.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup.

Also, rear left hand corner, right in the background....

Is...is that a Custodes? Looks too big to be Macragge Honour Guard?

Perhaps. Could also be a statue or bas-relief?

Indeed.

I kind of think it is a Custodes, but more than a smidge of wishful thinking there!

Wow... This is even better than I ever hoped. This last book is gonna be so DAMN GOOD!




P.S: If you watched yesterday's Warhammer_Tv's show, you saw how Andy was nervous about Guilliman's first words in the 41st Millenium. If this is it, he nailed it!

BrianDavion wrote:
Stepping into this debate, alright first of all, as some of you may have surmised from my user name, I... played Battletech, did for ages. MW2 brought me in, and I slowly drifted away after the Jihad. what drove me away BTW was the massive rapid changes made too fast to the setting. I say this, because yeah personal experiance has taught that a game setting starts to suck hard if every 6 months to a year, everything totally changes.

But BattleTech isn't a setting, it's a story, and it always has been. It moves, constantly. The universe was driven by the fiction, contrasted to 40K where the fiction was used to tell stories in the setting.

40k is and is always been a setting WITH a story. It has both things, only that the story remained frozen for quite a while. People wanted the story to advance, for they focused on that aspect, while people wanted the story where it was, since they focused on the setting aspect. GW wants to focus on the early now, that's it. Now, I think we can safely say this won't bring us anywhere.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Love that pic and the quote is great

 Mr Morden wrote:

Love that pic and the quote is great

Yeah, next he can reform the Imperium and get rid of all that depressing grimdark nonsense.
*eyeroll*

 Crimson wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

Love that pic and the quote is great

Yeah, next he can reform the Imperium and get rid of all that depressing grimdark nonsense.
*eyeroll*

I have been seeing you complain a lot but never saying exactly how this is a bad thing. What is going to change? Nothing. So why do you still keep sulking when nothing has happened yet? 40K will not be rainbow and unicorns. The Imperium will not turn into Whimshire (spelling?). Even then, Whimshire is still a very dangerous place. . Everything is still going to be doom and gloom. So not sure what your point is.

 Crimson wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:

Love that pic and the quote is great

Yeah, next he can reform the Imperium and get rid of all that depressing grimdark nonsense.
*eyeroll*

Not sure what the prioblem is here - we have the grim dark element of "WTF have you done!" likely talking to some of the "main cast" whilst posing for the populace in the main image.

Now if it had been a "Lo I shall bring you back from the darkness" you might have had a point - but this is the opposite - its a almost disparing statement from someone who has awoken to find all that he fought for ashes and worse. I think you are missing the whole point of both the image and the quote.

that rumour about one of the loyalists turning heretic

please not Roboute :(

Davor wrote:
What is going to change? Nothing.

A Primarch has returned and is displeased with the current state of the Imperium. Yet nothing is going to change.
I seriously doubt that.


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LightKing wrote:
that rumour about one of the loyalists turning heretic

please not Roboute :(

That would be the only way to make this mess even remotely tolerable. It would be almost cool, in fact.
(It would still be bad move, as I doubt many Ultramarine players would be pleased with such a development.)

 Wolfblade wrote:


Wasn't that the DA? They sat out the fight to see which side came out on top.

This quote really annoys me. You're citing a traitor who Luther said he couldn't trust. Give me a break.

if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity,aeldari,custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.

Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.

The ground has been laid for massive amounts of change army wise. We have the Potential for but not limited too:
A new line of guard given cadia and catachan got krumped good.
A new line of combined eldar, pretty self explanatory.
A new breed of super marine, using new armour developed off Robot Ghoulman's new super suit.
New Chaos forces with Primarch and god specific troops.
New wolfy mcwolfson all wolfy all the time wulvern force.
More loyalist primarchs and there forces.
Reformed Ultramarines Legion and new mcragge based empire.
Terran based genestellar cult with more units.

The list goes on.

SeanDrake wrote:
if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity, aeldari, custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.

Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.

Yeah, this.

I'd love to be wrong, but the signs are not good.

Meh. Delete this and let's move on.

Gotta ask, has anyone actually jumped ship? Seen a lot of whining about the end of 40k, but unlike 7th, have yet to see people dumping armies left and right. More like a bunch of ex-players crying about the current state of a game they don't play.

SeanDrake wrote:
if that don't foreshadow a new powergrab I will be very surprised. The Enlightened empire home to free humanity,aeldari,custodes and Space Marines that don't need flea collars.

Anyone who at this stage does not think this is the 40k End Times fluffwise is in denial.

The ground has been laid for massive amounts of change army wise. We have the Potential for but not limited too:
A new line of guard given cadia and catachan got krumped good.
A new line of combined eldar, pretty self explanatory.
A new breed of super marine, using new armour developed off Robot Ghoulman's new super suit.
New Chaos forces with Primarch and god specific troops.
New wolfy mcwolfson all wolfy all the time wulvern force.
More loyalist primarchs and there forces.
Reformed Ultramarines Legion and new mcragge based empire.
Terran based genestellar cult with more units.

The list goes on.

It's not, because they literally said there is not going to be end times


some of you are just being negative to be negative....you want to maintain the status quo thats been maintained for over 20 years

 jreilly89 wrote:
Gotta ask, has anyone actually jumped ship? Seen a lot of whining about the end of 40k, but unlike 7th, have yet to see people dumping armies left and right. More like a bunch of ex-players crying about the current state of a game they don't play.

Does 30k count? I've pretty much written off GW proper especially in the last year or so. Now FW has and keeps on doing a bang up job. Even their 40k stuff I like (Badab War, Siege of Varaks, etc etc).

Now 30k, all marines all the time! Pick your favored colour and go to town!

Honestly, if Roboute becomes a "heretic", it will only be in the eyes of the exceedingly corrupt Imperial Government, High Lords of Terra, and the Ecclesiarchy. He is probably committed to the Emperor's original vision, something no one else in the galaxy can boast. He will probably try to turn the Imperium back to what it is supposed to be.

Well, hell road's paved with good intentions, no?

Love that quote too, chilling.

Crimson wrote:

Davor wrote:
What is going to change? Nothing.

A Primarch has returned and is displeased with the current state of the Imperium. Yet nothing is going to change.
I seriously doubt that.

That is right. Nothing changes because you are still complaining and not backing up your statements. Just saying so doesn't mean it will happen. If you have already explained why, I must have missed it. Can you please link up so I can see your point of view? If you haven't can you please explain why? I can't understand you right now because you are just acting like a little child complaining and pouting about something that hasn't even happened.

The "setting" hasn't changed. Imperial of Man is on the brink still. Chaos is always still loosing and looking pathetic. Tyranids will always still be the "huge threat" but everyone is still beating them and a Fleet or Tendril still gets destroyed. Orks will always be a menace. So again what is going to change?

While I may not agree with you, I am not saying you are wrong. I am just trying to understand your point of view since I am not seeing it.

https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Roboute Guilliman, Lord of the Ultramarines, Avenging Son and last loyal Primarch makes his Warhammer Live Debut.

He stands against Skarbrand, exiled Daemon Prince of Khorne.

It's gonna be a good one! Tune in here from 2:30pm (GMT)

broadcasting right now....


.. Guillamns armour can regenerate/bring him back from the dead on a 4+ with d3W.

2+ save, 6w, 4++ save.

.. new command traits from book 3... which can be spent ..?

Ok, officially love RG with his helmet on, no idea why it looks soooooo much better.

 reds8n wrote:
https://www.twitch.tv/warhammer

Roboute Guilliman, Lord of the Ultramarines, Avenging Son and last loyal Primarch makes his Warhammer Live Debut.

He stands against Skarbrand, exiled Daemon Prince of Khorne.

It's gonna be a good one! Tune in here from 2:30pm (GMT)

broadcasting right now....


.. Guillamns armour can regenerate/bring him back from the dead on a 4+ with d3W.

2+ save, 6w, 4++ save.

.. new command traits from book 3... which can be spent ..?

Sounds kickass!

His fist gun:
24" s6 ap2 assault 3 rending

sword looks to be s10, ap1, armourbane, concussion, soul blaze, whirling flame, touch of the emperor
touch of the emperor looks to make it a D attack somehow, i'd speculate on any 6's to hit

gun is 24" ass3, s6 ap2 rending

s,t,6,I,A all seem to be 6.

..sword x2 his S and can -- on a 6 maybe ? -- produce a D hit.

loads of command buffs..

.might be a 3++ save in fact ?

Gun is 24" S:6 AP:2 assault 3, Rending.

Sword is Sx2, with "a chance for S"

And I'm pretty sure I heard 3++ save.

Also, one extra doctrine, leadership cannot be modified by any means, and re-rolls deny the witch. Which apparently combos really well with Cypher's abilities.


Edit: and has all the warlord traits from the command table.

Statline of 66666666666666...10

Pretty easy to remember