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 oldravenman3025 wrote:

Ruin wrote:
That's the spirit. Call everyone who disagrees with you a "neckbeard". As if you're exactly the epitome of cool for loving what GW are doing to 40k...

"Neckbeard" is a common term for hard-core tabletop gamers, particularly of fantasy or darker settings. It is not a pejorative. Much like Napoleonic term "grognard" as it applies to gaming, except most neckbeards are less resistant to change than grognards.



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Sigh...

"Neckbeard" does not mean that, in fact it is like the nerd-culture equivalent of "hipster". It has become so bastardised through misuse it now means nothing. You were using it to make yourself out to be high up there in the geek hierarchy, not being bothered by the changes that are riling up these so-called "neckbeards". Yes, how dare someone dislike how a company is dragging their flagship game's last remaining bastion of good stuff (to many people) through the dirt.

Nope. Sucks to be you! How dare you have feelings for such things you fething neckbeard. Go back to eating those doritos and washing it down with lashings of mountain dew you fething peasant. Suck it up loser, this is modern 40k background! Where Necrons are bros with BA and GKs make hats from SoB!

 Warpig1815 wrote:
but it's still appropriate to use if one is referring to the lack of 'light' shed upon those times. It is indeed dark to us, because we know very little about that period of history in comparison to later and earlier times. Of course, it is gradually becoming less and less dark as academic studies advance.

Speaking in terms of manuscript evidence (my field), we have far more from the Early Middle Ages than we do from Ancient times (say pre-476 AD). Many of our classical sources (and most of our best) come down to us through early Medieval manuscripts (for example, Venetus A).

way off topic dudes

 Warpig1815 wrote:
@oldmanraven3025 - Except, Grognard was a pejorative nickname - because the Old Guard were the only formation that were permitted to openly complain to the Emperor, the other units were mildly resentful, as they could only expect harsh punishment if they dared. Indeed, it still is used pejoratively in the French political sphere, and more widely the term Old Guard usually refers to a person who staunchly resists change or cleaves to outdated notions. The more you know indeed...

I doubt calling anybody a 'neckbeard' is particularly flattering - the more so if you're part of the female element who enjoy this hobby.

Well, I was talking about gaming. Among Battletech players back in the day, the "3025 Only" players who hated anything Clan/Post-Helm related were referred to as "grognards" . The same for some D&D players I knew back in the 90's who had bouts of nostalgia for early 80's D&D.


Well, calling girls neckbeards isn't a good move. As a card-carrying member of the "Society of Neckbearded Grognards", I carry such labels as a mark of pride.

@Dr_Jim_J_Jimmy - I have to agree with davou that that's a conversation that is way OT for this thread - I was merely using it as an illustration that Dark Ages, in whatever form it's intended, is in fact apt for 40k. I'd be more than happy to discuss it in another thread however.

I was pretty proud of myself for resisting the temptation to drop 600 bucks for a limited art print (and some plastic). Just the Primarch for me!

This seems to be becoming a trend:

The trend is...?

potential desktop wallpaper candidate

 JohnnyHell wrote:
The trend is...?

Making bad puns wiht names? I mean, March forth/fourth...

 JohnnyHell wrote:
The trend is...?

Misspellings. That definitely should not be fourth.

Or I'm just an idiot.


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Oh it's a pun. I thought it was like the FW thing...

Yes, it's a pun. That's why Star Wars Day is May 4th (May the Force/May the fourth be with you.).

So.... to anyone who has read the Gathering Storm Part 1.

Does Be'lakor have an ability to teleport himself anywhere he wants irrespective of wards, litanies and such?

I mean not spoiling anything here, but the whole attack on the Phalanx being a two-page spread just seemed rushed and badly explained. It could have been a nice short story by itself.

from the email sent out by GW about this, Gathering Storm three will have "rules for adding fallen dark angels to your Imperium or chaos forces" thought that might be relevant for CSM players

I'm liking a lot of this!

I just hope 40K 8th is a game I want to play!

Personally, seeing the setting moving in any meaningful way is actually very exciting. I started playing 40k and became familiar with the universe at the twilight of second edition/beginning of 3rd edition (Never played any games till well after 3rd edition started however.).

Having seen the universe stagnant for so long irked me, but I appreciated that it was a setting more than a story.

That said, progress needs to happen to keep things interesting. I'm excited to see what the rest of 2017 brings with it and hope for more awesome models and stories in the coming months.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

so has anything leaked about Cypher or the GK guy? these are potentially important

Watch the grey knight character have some way to teleport Gman right into the enemy lines during his magic phase

 davou wrote:
Watch the grey knight character have some way to teleport Gman right into the enemy lines during his magic phase

honestly, I'd not be too suprised if they did something like that

What I am interested in knowing

is who will have authority over the other Non-Ultramarines chapters....Roboute or their chapter master

for the blood angels, will Roboute supercede Dante

salamanders, will Roboute supercede Tu'shan


etc. etc. etc.

LightKing wrote:
What I am interested in knowing

is who will have authority over the other Non-Ultramarines chapters....Roboute or their chapter master

for the blood angels, will Roboute supercede Dante

salamanders, will Roboute supercede Tu'shan


etc. etc. etc.

If Guilliman is at the head of the empire, then he commands all the chapter masters, but they keep their chapters.

LightKing wrote:
What I am interested in knowing

is who will have authority over the other Non-Ultramarines chapters....Roboute or their chapter master

for the blood angels, will Roboute supercede Dante

salamanders, will Roboute supercede Tu'shan


etc. etc. etc.

Well, if he assumes such authority it proves what many have suspected: that he is a hypocrite.

LightKing wrote:
What I am interested in knowing

is who will have authority over the other Non-Ultramarines chapters....Roboute or their chapter master

for the blood angels, will Roboute supercede Dante

salamanders, will Roboute supercede Tu'shan


etc. etc. etc.

I'm sure that the Chapter Masters will retain their commands. What I suspect could happen is that the position of "Lord Commander of the Imperium " will be reinstated by the High Lords, and Gorillaman will get authority over the entirety of the Imperium's armed forces. The Chapter Masters will continue to command their Chapters in the field, but they'll answer to the Primarch.


That's my guess, anyway.

well keep in mind space marine chapters are, IN THEORY, independant of even the Lord Commander, (the high lords simply put don't have the authority to give him command) that said I suspect it's mostly theoretical as the space marine chapters will happily do as Gulliman asks of them.

so its pretty much 100 percent confirmed that Roboute will become Lord Commander at the end of the book?

Davor wrote:
Fluff is eternal? Then how come Dark Angels are green and not black like in Rouge Trader? How come we have Primarchs? How come we have 30K? We had none of that in Rogue Trader.

Because that was 40K at its inception. There was a mass rationalisation of the 40K setting at the start of 2nd Ed where they defined everything and threw out a lot of the weirder RT stuff.

 Crimson wrote:

LightKing wrote:
What I am interested in knowing

is who will have authority over the other Non-Ultramarines chapters....Roboute or their chapter master

for the blood angels, will Roboute supercede Dante

salamanders, will Roboute supercede Tu'shan


etc. etc. etc.

Well, if he assumes such authority it proves what many have suspected: that he is a hypocrite.

LCotI is not a new position for RG and one he had when he wrote the Codex Astarte's.

Davor wrote:
Fluff is eternal? Then how come Dark Angels are green and not black like in Rouge Trader? How come we have Primarchs? How come we have 30K? We had none of that in Rogue Trader.

If you haven't figured out that Rogue Trader fluff has been mostly dead since 1992... then I don't know what to tell you? Some parts of RT remained but they basically rebuilt the game and the fluff around a totally different set of ideas. Time to just let it go, imo.

Davor wrote:
Then how come Dark Angels are green and not black like in Rouge Trader?

Because, at some point in time long forgotten, except maybe by a few of the highest ranking administratum, an artist got the brief wrong.

 ProtoClone wrote:

LCotI is not a new position for RG and one he had when he wrote the Codex Astarte's.

I know, but that was not the original question. As noted, the Lord Commander technically has no authority over marines. Though in my book him originally assuming that position is proof enough that he was a hypocrite.