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Welcome Floofy - looking forward to reading the post!

Ok here is my attempt at answering questions from the last few pages of thread:
1. Urban combat was chosen because it is the worst and most difficult place for a titan maniple to fight. Other terrain styles are supported but I would say cities are the most tactically interesting.
2. Different legio have special rules. Players are encouraged to make up custom legio to go with these rules given.
3. Alpha strikes are impossible due to alternating activations in phases. Also Warlords are too tough to die turn one even if you permit the enemy to do everything right. Resource management is key to victory.
4. Space Marine is an example of an interesting expansion they have prepared the game for not collapsing over. Scale was picked to accomodate all model types conceivable. Obviously no work is being directed at this angle.
5. The bunker things you see in some pictures have gameplay effects--like if you are outgunned in narrative play you may get a fortified position. There is also a gauntlet type mission where you advance down a very narrow table manned by the enemy.
6. Imperators would be the size of 40k reiver titans and reduce the game to who activates theirs first. Not coming.

That is everything off the top of my head.

Not doing the imperator / warmonger seems like an odd choice. A game purely about titans leaving out the biggest and best titans? I'd love one as a center Piece for the new game, much like the old one is for my old epic collection.

I hope forgeworld do add on kits for all the weird and wonderful weapons that were around during the old AT game. Would love to see land speeder landing pads, flails, corvus assault ramps, weapon heads and a giant carapace bell.

Imperators were in the earlier titan games without any issues so I can't see why they couldn't fit into this game. An Imperator is only around twice the size of a Warlord so making one as a model shouldn't be a barrier issue, although it is more bulky overall, but with plastics it shouldn't be the barrier it once was (if it were resin I could understand the problems of making one).

Granted I'd expect one a lot further down the line once they've fleshed out the armies and if the game is selling very strongly; but still I'd expect to see one appear. Sure the Imperator is going to be a huge point sink, but it should be possible to balance the game and have one - and lets be honest its a huge centre piece model for the titan armies.

Heck if they never advance the game out of the initial age setting (ergo never past Imperials) adding an Imperator would become even more important (at least if you advance to 40K era they can spread updates with loads of xenos)

Ya emperor class titans are basically immobile crawling cities. Depending on when in the hours heresy this game takss place there is like a handful of imperial emperor Titans left. It’s a unicorn and should stay that way. At best it’s a terrain piece in the far future if this game is successful.

Where was it said that Imperator titans won't be made? I would also think Reaver size is way to big. More like 40k warhound height

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperator-class_Titan

They are big and tough but they are far from immobile; mobility is their primary focus in bringing the might of the Emperor to His foes.

I'd say they are far from a unicorn considering that we've had them before in the previous titan based games (heck Titan Legions they were one half of the box art)

 Overread wrote:
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Imperator-class_Titan

They are big and tough but they are far from immobile; mobility is their primary focus in bringing the might of the Emperor to His foes.

I'd say they are far from a unicorn considering that we've had them before in the previous titan based games (heck Titan Legions they were one half of the box art)

Read up on that link
“Due to their immense size, Imperator Titans are not nearly as fast or agile as their smaller Scout and Battle Titan counterparts, but they more than make up for this failing with their sheer firepower and heavily armoured bulk.”

Furthermore titanicus is being played during the hours heresy depending on the exact timeline whether it is after the war on mars and siege on terra. A vast majority of known emperor class titans are either chaos or are destroyed. In current 40k there is only like 3 known imperial emperor class titans still fully operational. They are literally unicorns right now. Which is why we never hear about them in current lore. But feel free to read up on known emperor class titans in the wiki.

They want knight in the game, with Imperator in place of Warlord, knight would be too small.

Chopstick wrote:
They want knight in the game, with Imperator in place of Warlord, knight would be too small.

Personally I'd have been ok with that, and kicking the knights out, but I get why they went the way they did. Knights seem to have been hugely popular in 40k since they released them, though personally I don't see the appeal at all.

If we compare the original Imperator Titan (in its 6mm scale it was maybe 8" tall at its talles tower), it would be easy to make one about the size of the new Knight or something the height of an Eldar Wraithknight. It would be doable, though you'd be looking at a $150 kit of course.

With this scale, there is no way an Imperator would be the size of a 40k Reaver. I really hope they decide to make one. Even if they don't, I will have to kitbash one!

The Dreadnought size in that pic is wrong.

Thanks for the scale post and great pic! Like that paint scheme a lot too.

Chopstick wrote:
The Dreadnought size in that pic is wrong.

You will most likely find that the images are the silhouettes of the Epic miniatures and their comparative scaling.

As people have noted before the Epic titans scale was different for each titan to ensure they were still reasonably playable whilst still being affordable and able to me manufactured witht he technology of the time.

 Albertorius wrote:

Well, I don't know about you, but these look superb to me:

Who makes these?

Chopstick wrote:
They want knight in the game, with Imperator in place of Warlord, knight would be too small.

That's the reason there's never been knights in Epic scale.

Oh, wait...

 Albertorius wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
They want knight in the game, with Imperator in place of Warlord, knight would be too small.

That's the reason there's never been knights in Epic scale.

Oh, wait...

They were also nearly the same size as the old warhounds, or taller in the case of the lancers and barons.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

Well, I don't know about you, but these look superb to me:

Who makes these?

Those are fan sculpts, you need to know a guy and all that. But if fans can, I'm 200% sure GW could, if they wanted to.


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 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
They want knight in the game, with Imperator in place of Warlord, knight would be too small.

That's the reason there's never been knights in Epic scale.

Oh, wait...

They were also nearly the same size as the old warhounds, or taller in the case of the lancers and barons.

So if you're already making the titans bigger, you don't even need to upscale those.

EDIT: Plus, knights were actually smaller than Warhounds (But yeah, not that much):

Knight is already tiny, with smaller scale they would be gretchin-size. That epic knight look much bigger than the current scale knight

Not really; it’s just that all the titans and stuff around them are tiny. The old Epic knights are all on 25mm bases.

Floofybirb wrote:
I never thought I'd register here, but this post is incorrect enough to make me stop lurking. The figure given at the stream was the same one as at the Fest: between 5 and 200 pounds. As the exact figure has indeed not been set yet, any other figure you hear can safely be discarded. At some point I will make a second post detailing what went on at the Fest regarding AT as depressingly few people have done that.

Thank you both for the correction and the future summary.


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 Albertorius wrote:

Of all the titan's that could use a serious face lift, IMO, the Imperator heads my list.

 Mr_Rose wrote:
Not really; it’s just that all the titans and stuff around them are tiny. The old Epic knights are all on 25mm bases.

Exactly, the knights were quite decently sized as thy were. The new ones, though, seem to be terminator-sized and to be mounted on 40mm bases.

They do look great, though. I might be getting some to use as Warhounds in Epic.

IIRC Jes G mentioned that the thighs are a problem area. Otherwise, it just needs the same "make it functional looking" pass that fw has done to the other knight designs.

Floofybirb wrote:
Ok here is my attempt at answering questions from the last few pages of thread:
1. Urban combat was chosen because it is the worst and most difficult place for a titan maniple to fight. Other terrain styles are supported but I would say cities are the most tactically interesting.
2. Different legio have special rules. Players are encouraged to make up custom legio to go with these rules given.
3. Alpha strikes are impossible due to alternating activations in phases. Also Warlords are too tough to die turn one even if you permit the enemy to do everything right. Resource management is key to victory.
4. Space Marine is an example of an interesting expansion they have prepared the game for not collapsing over. Scale was picked to accomodate all model types conceivable. Obviously no work is being directed at this angle.
5. The bunker things you see in some pictures have gameplay effects--like if you are outgunned in narrative play you may get a fortified position. There is also a gauntlet type mission where you advance down a very narrow table manned by the enemy.
6. Imperators would be the size of 40k reiver titans and reduce the game to who activates theirs first. Not coming.

That is everything off the top of my head.

Many thanks for coming out of lurking to make this post Floofybirb

Some really interesting stuff there.

Are you able to clarify what the point 4 means, about Space Marine?

Chopstick wrote:
The Dreadnought size in that pic is wrong.

Those are way underscalled compared to the fluff, or the guard are overscalled, probably the latter to be fair, I say this as we all remember the battle of the Choral city in HH where the Titan crew are walking around on the gangways, those titans dont even have those let alone the room for human to walk around on them.

Scale is like time - its a wibbly wobbly concept that gets the job done in obeying the "RULE OF COOL" in games/fantasy/scifi.

I'd maintain that if Titanicus sells well and proves to be a viable strong line of models then we will one day see an Imperator. Sure they are super rare; heck most of what we use in the game is super rare, We've got a legion of one-off characters who only ever appear at the rarest of battles - we've got units that are unique; we've got chaos gods who stride the battle field. So 3 Imperators is a luxury considering what else there is that is a one off.

 Overread wrote:
Scale is like time - its a wibbly wobbly concept that gets the job done in obeying the "RULE OF COOL" in games/fantasy/scifi.

I'd maintain that if Titanicus sells well and proves to be a viable strong line of models then we will one day see an Imperator. Sure they are super rare; heck most of what we use in the game is super rare, We've got a legion of one-off characters who only ever appear at the rarest of battles - we've got units that are unique; we've got chaos gods who stride the battle field. So 3 Imperators is a luxury considering what else there is that is a one off.

Wait, hang on, are you suggesting that Space Marines aren't the most common soldiers in the 40k galaxy? Next you'll be trying to tell me Ultramarines don't fight other Ultramarines in literally every fourth battle they partake in, or that Gulliman hasn't killed Gulliman hundreds of times over!

 Pacific wrote:

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Many thanks for coming out of lurking to make this post Floofybirb

Some really interesting stuff there.

Are you able to clarify what the point 4 means, about Space Marine?

I’m pretty sure this means that although there are no plans or any design work done to introduce infantry, the scale was selected/tested so that infantry could be added.

I'd thought others had said that some work was done to design Space Marines (the dudes) for Space Marine (the game, or some new version thereof)

I had the same question as Pacific, I'd love to hear more about introducing infantry and armor, even though I understand that may not be for a while, if at all.