GW Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours

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**BrianDavion**

Lord of Deeds wrote:
It's interesting to see the twists and turns this thread has taken since the prices were confirmed as our community (myself included) progresses through the stages of grief (modified Kubler-Ross model). It seems that many of us are now somewhere between bargaining and acceptance.

Personally I am in the testing phase (seeking realistic solutions) having accepted that I will not be buying the GME . Without going into a drawn out diatribe of why, the short of it is it's too high an inital buy in for an unproven system that seems primed to only be adopted by a small subset of our community.

With that said here is what I am considering;

Option 1 - Forget AT, and don't look back, instead focus on core games and the other skirmish games already released that I have already invested in and also still working on.
Option 2 - Take a wait and see approach and gauge the adoption rate after a couple of months and GW's follow through on supporting the system
Option 3 - Make small buy in, i.e. The rules set plus two boxes of knights ($ 130 USD RRP) to be able to build and play.
Option 4 - Forget the game for now, but buy a Warlord and maybe a box of knights ($110 to $145 USD RRP) to statisfy the modelist itch now and keeping the option of getting into the game at a later date assuming sufficent level of adoption by local gaming community and ongoing GW support.

Are there any other options people might suggest?

One idea might be Buy the rules and a Warlord, should set you back about 200 bucks total, not too bad and it'd suffice to play a small 1 v 1 game well waiting for the expansion etc. even if AT doesn't catch on locally you've got a nice display piece. seems like a good comprimise between options 3 and 4

**mjl7atlas**

Has there been any mention of cost for the Reaver?

**Ugly Green Trog**

mjl7atlas wrote:
Has there been any mention of cost for the Reaver?

No news on either the warhound or reaver in terms of pack size or pricing that I can find. One assumes it will be cheaper than the warlord but both have been spotted with options for different weapon load outs so they may appear more expensive in comparison at first. Obviously to upgrade the warlord we will have to buy extra sprues. The reaver is confirmed as having 3 sprues like the warlord, 1 for body, 1 for panels and 1 for weapons.

**changemod**

Ugly Green Trog wrote:
mjl7atlas wrote:
Has there been any mention of cost for the Reaver?

No news on either the warhound or reaver in terms of pack size or pricing that I can find. One assumes it will be cheaper than the warlord but both have been spotted with options for different weapon load outs so they may appear more expensive in comparison at first. Obviously to upgrade the warlord we will have to buy extra sprues. The reaver is confirmed as having 3 sprues like the warlord, 1 for body, 1 for panels and 1 for weapons.

The warhound comes with all four weapon options in the pack, they were telling us that at the recent FW open day.

**Nurglitch**

Presumably they'll be the traditional weapons available to the Warhounds and/or anything new FW has come up with, like the Warlord's powerfist/Vulcan mega bolter.

**gorgon**

Yeah, presumably they'll be the same four that are available on the 40K version -- megabolter, blastgun, turbolaser, inferno cannon. I'm very interested to learn how they'll attach to the body. I need to keep some flexibility to add Ursus Claws later...

**BrianDavion**

I've got a hunch that warhounds are going to be a two pack, ala the new small knights for 40k.

**schoon**

They have mentioned that weapons will have holes to be magnetized...

**Neronoxx**

schoon wrote:
They have mentioned that weapons will have holes to be magnetized...

Not for everything. Only the warlords were confirmed iirc.

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Also, whose gonna be the first place to be making 3rd party terrain for this game?

**BrianDavion**

Neronoxx wrote:
schoon wrote:
They have mentioned that weapons will have holes to be magnetized...

Not for everything. Only the warlords were confirmed iirc.

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Also, whose gonna be the first place to be making 3rd party terrain for this game?

Proably a safe bet they'll make the other ones magnet compatable as it's the same designer and philophesy but yeah I supppose it's no garentee. as for 3rd party terrain....
I dunno.. depends on how well the game does obviously, if this time next year we're talking about AT as "the game that replaced 40k as the top mini game on the market" it'll obviously be a differant scenerio from if AT was largely seen as an expensive boondoogle no one plays.

My guess is given the scale of it you'll see some stuff but not a lot of dedicated gothic looking stuff, but proably stuff engineered to work for AT and Battletech as well as any other sci-fi game with a similer scale

**MajorWesJanson**

Looking at the sprue, the next Warlord frame seems obvious- Either Mars Beta or Lucius Alpha head, 2x Laser Blaster carapace mounts, Fist, and Sunfury plasma.

**Breotan**

I wonder. They deliberately designed the weapon sprues to be separate from the rest and they pre-formed them for magnets. Might the weapon upgrades be sold separately, thus being behind the higher than expected initial price?

**GoatboyBeta**

*shrug*
If they sell the new weapons packaged with a Warlord model then GW are evil for forcing you to buy the Titan when all you want are the guns. But if they sell the new weapon sprue's solo then GW are still evil because you have to pay for stuff you don't want when you do buy the Titan.

**BrianDavion**

they said the sprues are seperate and they've no reason to lie, My guess is they did this on the assumption the warlord will be expensive eneugh and not everyone will care eneugh to want to model the exact weapons so figured they can save costs this way.

The decision might have been made because of FW's experiance with 40k sized titans where most people just bought 1 set of weapons and only a small number of people would insist on each weapon magnitized so they can "WYSIWYG" it.

**TonyL707**

Breotan wrote:
I wonder. They deliberately designed the weapon sprues to be separate from the rest and they pre-formed them for magnets. Might the weapon upgrades be sold separately, thus being behind the higher than expected initial price?

Think on the Warhammer TV twitch they confirmed they'll be separate weapon packs for the Warlord and Reaver coming out.

**jonolikespie**

TonyL707 wrote:
Breotan wrote:
I wonder. They deliberately designed the weapon sprues to be separate from the rest and they pre-formed them for magnets. Might the weapon upgrades be sold separately, thus being behind the higher than expected initial price?

Think on the Warhammer TV twitch they confirmed they'll be separate weapon packs for the Warlord and Reaver coming out.

That's actually making the grandmaster box sound more appealing again. Knowing I won't have to buy a whole 3rd warlord to make my 2nd different from the 1st is a plus. Still, sticker shock.. I think I'd rather buy just the rules, just a warlord, then a reaver when it comes out and a bunch of warhounds when they do.

**BrianDavion**

jonolikespie wrote:
TonyL707 wrote:
Breotan wrote:
I wonder. They deliberately designed the weapon sprues to be separate from the rest and they pre-formed them for magnets. Might the weapon upgrades be sold separately, thus being behind the higher than expected initial price?

Think on the Warhammer TV twitch they confirmed they'll be separate weapon packs for the Warlord and Reaver coming out.
That's actually making the grandmaster box sound more appealing again. Knowing I won't have to buy a whole 3rd warlord to make my 2nd different from the 1st is a plus. Still, sticker shock.. I think I'd rather buy just the rules, just a warlord, then a reaver when it comes out and a bunch of warhounds when they do.

even without uopgrade packs that way apparently the warlord is insanely posable, between that and the herealdry that a warlord titan should have I expect making each titan look distinct won't be as hard as some people fear

**jonolikespie**

Oh absolutely, I'd love to have a few and really go to down on the pattern markings, heraldry, and even banners.

But that's impractical right now with Aussie prices, I'm just happy that if I choose to go for 2 in the foreseeable future the Grandmaster box won't leave me screwed with two identical loadouts.

**Overread**

In addition to being able to sell the weapon upgrade packs later one can also assume that they could even sell armour upgrade packs too.

They might have tooled their moulds in the background so that they've separate casting moulds for the skeleton, armour and weapons. So if they come to release a chaos version they just cast more skeletons and then cast up the new armour and weapon upgrade sprues.

Plus it makes it a lot easier for them to release twisted chaos versions; armour upgrades for specific knight houses and weapon packs all in the future.

**BrianDavion**

jonolikespie wrote:
Oh absolutely, I'd love to have a few and really go to down on the pattern markings, heraldry, and even banners.

But that's impractical right now with Aussie prices, I'm just happy that if I choose to go for 2 in the foreseeable future the Grandmaster box won't leave me screwed with two identical loadouts.

I always look at small armies as a chance to really go to town on detail because well.. if I'm only gonna have a half dozen to twenty models on the table they should look nice. So I'm really looking forward to prettying up my titans. I just wish I could find more info on titan herealdy anyone got any good links for that? Might do something canon or of my own making but it'd be nice to have more info to start with

**Vorian**

Overread wrote:
In addition to being able to sell the weapon upgrade packs later one can also assume that they could even sell armour upgrade packs too.

They might have tooled their moulds in the background so that they've separate casting moulds for the skeleton, armour and weapons. So if they come to release a chaos version they just cast more skeletons and then cast up the new armour and weapon upgrade sprues.

Plus it makes it a lot easier for them to release twisted chaos versions; armour upgrades for specific knight houses and weapon packs all in the future.

He said as much in the video with AH and the sculptor. Not about releasing Chaosified varients particularly, but different armour panels.

**BrianDavion**

Vorian wrote:
Overread wrote:
In addition to being able to sell the weapon upgrade packs later one can also assume that they could even sell armour upgrade packs too.

They might have tooled their moulds in the background so that they've separate casting moulds for the skeleton, armour and weapons. So if they come to release a chaos version they just cast more skeletons and then cast up the new armour and weapon upgrade sprues.

Plus it makes it a lot easier for them to release twisted chaos versions; armour upgrades for specific knight houses and weapon packs all in the future.

He said as much in the video with AH and the sculptor. Not about releasing Chaosified varients particularly, but different armour panels.

and chaos panels make the most sense given the aquilla's on the shoulders of the current titans.

**Overread**

We all pretty much know that if if sells well enough we will see Chaos titans appear. Sure they will likely round out the pure Imperial ones first, but Chaos is the most logical natural step forward

What I'll be curious on is if they include Chaos Demons. In the past - at least with Titan Legions - there were Chaos demons on the battlefield at titanic size.

**jonolikespie**

I'm sure somewhere I have heard them say fluffwise the really mutated titans didn't show up until the end stages of the War, but they may in fact release something like that with a Siege of Terra expansion or some such.

**Overread**

Aye to start with its just civil war so the titans will look the same; then they'll likely release armour pack upgrades or kits which have warped weapons and armour on the same skeleton.

Then we'll likely see them release totally warp consumed custom titans (they might even develop a core twisted chassy to build off) along with warm infused knights and other monsters.

**xttz**

jonolikespie wrote:
I'm sure somewhere I have heard them say fluffwise the really mutated titans didn't show up until the end stages of the War, but they may in fact release something like that with a Siege of Terra expansion or some such.

I wouldn't be at all shocked to see them finish of the Heresy story line with an Adeptus Titanicus expansion rather than a 30k redbook. The Siege of Terra seems like something that would be far better done in 8mm scale.

**MarkNorfolk**

In that video, Chris said "knights and titans...and things" to be released in the coming months. Now 'things' is quite an open word, and might mean buildings, bunkers, Legio specific armour packs and weapon sprues. But who knows. Greater Daemons? Ordinatus?

**jonolikespie**

I expect only Titans to begin with, bunkers, armour and weapon packs, legio specific dice and transfers ect could all be good 'and things'.

**Strg Alt**

MarkNorfolk wrote:
Well, just because you don't like the scenery doesn't mean it's worth £0. But I understand that for some, it's just too much in one hit. Me? I'm in on this and so are a couple of others (at least) in the area, so only 19,997 to go, if the rumour is right. The new terrain will save us having to play with brightly coloured cardboard with plastic rooves.

Of course real AT players use polystyrene skyscrapers....

The problem is that people can build terrain from scratch. So to put overpriced scenery into a box with overpriced minis is a dealbreaker for a lot of people including me.

**Mendi Warrior**

Greater Daemons would definitely be cool (old metal Bloodthirster as proxy should do the trick also)

Sleek Slaneeshi knights, I think these would be quite easy, their original designs I like a lot

I'm wishing to see daemon engines too, Khorne in particular

there are so many possibilities to expand even without going up to infantry level, although I would love that a lot (my wallet probably much less)

MEGA

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Strg Alt wrote:

The problem is that people can build terrain from scratch. So to put overpriced scenery into a box with overpriced minis is a dealbreaker for a lot of people including me.

You can use them as conversion parts to complement scratch built terrain.

Expecting new terrain to encompass something allowing for refineries and industrial districts (sector mechanicus style).

Eager to see how the old FW epic buildings fare with the new AT stuff.