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Each different maniple has an additional benefit – for the Axiom, it allows orders to continue to be issued even if one Titan fails a Command check, while the Venator Light Maniple allows a Reaver Titan to make additional attacks when a Warhound from the maniple collapses an enemy’s void shields.
Interesting! Not too sure about the first one. Sometimes it feels like GW deliberately introduces rules for control, morale etc. just so they can then hand out special rules to cirumvent them. The second one seems really characterful though and should encourage aggressive play and pack tactics.
Then again, it is a buff that does not strictly make your force more killy, just somewhat more reliable on doing what you want. That's a reasonable special rule to take, when it means you're giving up possible offensive increases.
Then again, I'm waiting for some sort of a reprise on Abaddon's classic BFG rule, "You have failed me the last time...", where you could use the Warmaster's superduper Leadership with a reroll to order some other captain around but if they failed despite the reroll, Abaddon's ship would shoot that poor bugger down themselves
Albertorius wrote: I always wanted to get playing smaller games (4 minis games per side, that is) for the smaller price of $175 per player.
My local plastic crack dealer offers 15% off all GW products, brining the GM box to €195 and the rules box to €38. Split by two and it's €117 per player. I'd imagine similar deals can be had in Spain.
Still expensive, but not $175 expensive. Unless you mean Aussie dollars. In wich case, feth. Those people wake up each morning to shake the killer spiders out of their manly boots, I imagine they can handle a few dollars' loss.
If you and a friend are planning to collect Adeptus Titanicus, we’d suggest picking up a Grand Master Edition plus the Rules Set. Split the models, and you’ll each have a complete set of rules content, plus a Warlord and unit of Questoris Knights – a great start and enough to get playing smaller games.
I always wanted to get playing smaller games (4 minis games per side, that is) for the smaller price of $175 per player.
Albertorius wrote: I always wanted to get playing smaller games (4 minis games per side, that is) for the smaller price of $175 per player.
My local plastic crack dealer offers 15% off all GW products, brining the GM box to €195 and the rules box to €38. Split by two and it's €117 per player. I'd imagine similar deals can be had in Spain.
Still expensive, but not $175 expensive. Unless you mean Aussie dollars. In wich case, feth. Those people wake up each morning to shake the killer spiders out of their manly boots, I imagine they can handle a few dollars' loss.
You possibly have it the wrong way around. Aussie's would love to be paying $175AU per player, I think.
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JWBS wrote: You possibly have it the wrong way around. Aussie's would love to be paying $175AU per player, I think.
Indeed. I was going by the USD prices for the stuff they commented on: $290 for the GME, $60 for the rules box, divided by two players. Which gives you the rules, a Warlord, three knights and like a building for $175 per player.
JWBS wrote: You possibly have it the wrong way around. Aussie's would love to be paying $175AU per player, I think.
Indeed. I was going by the USD prices for the stuff they commented on: $290 for the GME, $60 for the rules box, divided by two players. Which gives you the rules, a Warlord, three knights and like a building for $175 per player.
Ah I see. And when you upscale that to AU$, that's when the number gets scary. I get it (The £ number is disconcerting enough as it is
JWBS wrote: You possibly have it the wrong way around. Aussie's would love to be paying $175AU per player, I think.
Indeed. I was going by the USD prices for the stuff they commented on: $290 for the GME, $60 for the rules box, divided by two players. Which gives you the rules, a Warlord, three knights and like a building for $175 per player.
Ah I see. And when you upscale that to AU$, that's when the number gets scary. I get it (The £ number is disconcerting enough as it is
As far as I know, the GME goes for $500 AUD, and the rules + bits for $100 AUD. That would make the above $300 AUD per player.
JWBS wrote: You possibly have it the wrong way around. Aussie's would love to be paying $175AU per player, I think.
Indeed. I was going by the USD prices for the stuff they commented on: $290 for the GME, $60 for the rules box, divided by two players. Which gives you the rules, a Warlord, three knights and like a building for $175 per player.
Ah I see. And when you upscale that to AU$, that's when the number gets scary. I get it (The £ number is disconcerting enough as it is
As far as I know, the GME goes for $500 AUD, and the rules + bits for $100 AUD. That would make the above $300 AUD per player.
Plus there could be a Funnel Web spider clinging to the side of the box
2018/08/09 18:48:48
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
jonolikespie wrote: I'm sure somewhere I have heard them say fluffwise the really mutated titans didn't show up until the end stages of the War, but they may in fact release something like that with a Siege of Terra expansion or some such.
I wouldn't be at all shocked to see them finish of the Heresy story line with an Adeptus Titanicus expansion rather than a 30k redbook. The Siege of Terra seems like something that would be far better done in 8mm scale.
it would be cool, but should be separate.
2018/08/09 19:27:15
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
jonolikespie wrote: I'm sure somewhere I have heard them say fluffwise the really mutated titans didn't show up until the end stages of the War, but they may in fact release something like that with a Siege of Terra expansion or some such.
I wouldn't be at all shocked to see them finish of the Heresy story line with an Adeptus Titanicus expansion rather than a 30k redbook. The Siege of Terra seems like something that would be far better done in 8mm scale.
Except with just titans AT isn't suitable for doing HH storyline to end. It was so heavily dominated by marines fighting that you would need EPIC to do it rather than AT. Titans were used to break holes to wall for marines to do fighting. Very much ground force centered battle.
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2024 painted/bought: 109/109
2018/08/09 19:53:07
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
The warlord titan apparently has a carapace option of mega bolter arrays and gatling blasters, which is new to me...wasn't expecting that. There are more weapon options in the cards than I was expecting. Hopefully most of them get fitted onto a plastic upgrade sprue, and only the rare/odd ones are resin.
There are some pictures of the cards on the FB group, not sure what the rules are regarding sharing leaked stuff.
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290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
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2018/08/09 21:47:16
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
2018/08/09 21:47:31
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
the relevant bit is 'Each Legio gets its own rules, which boil down to traits and wargear. What is going to set some people off (I just have a feeling) is that only two legions are included in this rulebook – Legio Gryphonicus and Legio Tempestus. Which blows big monkey, whichever way you look at it.
My soul had been prepared not to have legio-specific rules for Xestobiax, but missing out on Mortis? Really?
I am presuming that we are going to be getting supplementary material sooner rather than later.'
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2018/08/09 21:52:49
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
I'm tempted to go Legio Tempestus with House Tarnais knights as a nod to Mechancus, but with the Legio's all having rules I'd hate to choose a legion only to discover a differant one has rules that are more in keeping with my play style preferances.
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
I'm tempted to go Legio Tempestus with House Tarnais knights as a nod to Mechancus, but with the Legio's all having rules I'd hate to choose a legion only to discover a differant one has rules that are more in keeping with my play style preferances.
Tempestus are more of an Imperial Legion aren't they? I haven't read their main book but but I've read the Abnett book multiple times (just finished a re-read last month) and IIRC they believe that Emperor = Omnissiah ("The new way"), whereas some other legions believe they're not the same (like I say I haven't read the Tempestus book, the Abnett one is mainly Legio Invicta)
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
I'm tempted to go Legio Tempestus with House Tarnais knights as a nod to Mechancus, but with the Legio's all having rules I'd hate to choose a legion only to discover a differant one has rules that are more in keeping with my play style preferances.
Tempestus are more of an Imperial Legion aren't they? I haven't read their main book but but I've read the Abnett book multiple times (just finished a re-read last month) and IIRC they believe that Emperor = Omnissiah ("The new way"), whereas some other legions believe they're not the same (like I say I haven't read the Tempestus book, the Abnett one is mainly Legio Invicta)
I think the traitor side became legio tempestor, they are 1/3rd of the legio tempestus.
Heres a video unboxing of the rules pack someone put up.
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2018/08/09 22:11:55
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
I'm tempted to go Legio Tempestus with House Tarnais knights as a nod to Mechancus, but with the Legio's all having rules I'd hate to choose a legion only to discover a differant one has rules that are more in keeping with my play style preferances.
Tempestus are more of an Imperial Legion aren't they? I haven't read their main book but but I've read the Abnett book multiple times (just finished a re-read last month) and IIRC they believe that Emperor = Omnissiah ("The new way"), whereas some other legions believe they're not the same (like I say I haven't read the Tempestus book, the Abnett one is mainly Legio Invicta)
during the Heresy they split, some where on Mars when the heresy broke out there and declared for the emperor, being wiped out along side house Tarnias at the hands of the Legio Mortis. under the leadership of their senior most Principips (their CO was on Mars and died) sided with Horus, still others who where not on mars refused to follow the senior princips into treason
but yes the traitor elements of legio tempestus became legio tempestor
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2018/08/09 22:26:19
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
290 for the "eneugh gak for two people to sit down and play" If you don't want terrain and only want 1 warlord and knight lance you can save a fair bit of moola
changing the subject though, for those who lucked out and snagged an early copy, they implied rules for some select titan legions? is that indeed a thing?
There is only rules for Legio Tempestus and Gryphonicus in the rule book. Gryphonicus is loyalist, and Tempestus split into traitor/loyalist sub factions. Other legions will be covered in campaign books later on. I don't know what the actual rules are though, but we will probably find out on saturday when reviews start popping up.
I'm tempted to go Legio Tempestus with House Tarnais knights as a nod to Mechancus, but with the Legio's all having rules I'd hate to choose a legion only to discover a differant one has rules that are more in keeping with my play style preferances.
Tempestus are more of an Imperial Legion aren't they? I haven't read their main book but but I've read the Abnett book multiple times (just finished a re-read last month) and IIRC they believe that Emperor = Omnissiah ("The new way"), whereas some other legions believe they're not the same (like I say I haven't read the Tempestus book, the Abnett one is mainly Legio Invicta)
during the Heresy they split, some where on Mars when the heresy broke out there and declared for the emperor, being wiped out along side house Tarnias at the hands of the Legio Mortis. under the leadership of their senior most Principips (their CO was on Mars and died) sided with Horus, still others who where not on mars refused to follow the senior princips into treason
but yes the traitor elements of legio tempestus became legio tempestor
Yeah I just realised I got it wrong anyway. Invicta are "The new way", Tempestus believe in a separation, which would make the loyalist elements more loyal to Mars than Terra.
Or, just ignore GW's event nonsense and use whatever rules you like with whatever colours you like, because "I'm fighting against Legio [X] despite their colours" is no more for your opponent to remember if using an "official" scheme than it is a homebrew one.
Actually seeing the prices and considering my spending, I think I'll go for the "budget"( ) option of rules & a Warlord for now, build out a maniple around it, and consider picking up a Grandmaster box when they do the 2019 reprint to kick off a second and my Knight household project.
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2018/08/10 00:13:20
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
Yodhrin wrote: Or, just ignore GW's event nonsense and use whatever rules you like with whatever colours you like, because "I'm fighting against Legio [X] despite their colours" is no more for your opponent to remember if using an "official" scheme than it is a homebrew one.
Actually seeing the prices and considering my spending, I think I'll go for the "budget"( ) option of rules & a Warlord for now, build out a maniple around it, and consider picking up a Grandmaster box when they do the 2019 reprint to kick off a second and my Knight household project.
yeah I'm inclined to just buy the rules and a warlord too. the GM set is just an insane amount of money
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2018/08/10 00:19:42
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91
Yodhrin wrote: Or, just ignore GW's event nonsense and use whatever rules you like with whatever colours you like, because "I'm fighting against Legio [X] despite their colours" is no more for your opponent to remember if using an "official" scheme than it is a homebrew one.
Actually seeing the prices and considering my spending, I think I'll go for the "budget"( ) option of rules & a Warlord for now, build out a maniple around it, and consider picking up a Grandmaster box when they do the 2019 reprint to kick off a second and my Knight household project.
My Legion will be Invicta, cos I like them and the colour scheme (Red, black, gold) is cool, and I'm good at painting it. But the gold will be silver. And the decals will have an Inquisitorial theme, because part of the legion has been seconded by the Ordo Xenos to fight aliens somewhere, and I like the =][= transfer sheet I have. And my Knights will be of the same legion, not a separate house. So I agree, my colours and "rules" (if I ever use them) will not be any of GW's business
2018/08/10 00:20:36
Subject: Adeptus Titanicus news - Pre-order 11th August - Pricing Rumours Pg78 - Warhound Preview Pg91