GW Adeptus Titanicus news and rumours

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**Overread**

tneva82 wrote:
Odds of squats coming back is pretty slim. First they would need to fix the issue they had in the first place. No good concept designers felt excited about. Tyranids or not that's not going away easily.

To be fair the concept designers comment we have is based on going WAY back to when Squats were first dropped from the game. So that's well over a decade ago. Also the skill, sculpting and materials of today are way better than they had in the past. They could very well do Squats again though they might rename them (in fact they did they just never got anywhere with it).

Of all the games AT has the most chance; but yeah on the serious note I'd only expect to see them if AT remains a top seller for GW for long enough for us to band together to create Sisters of Battle levels of interest

**xttz**

The one thing Squats have going for them is that they translate to 'Epic' scale a lot better than some of the current factions. A decent chunk of them lack anything larger than Knight scale units in their existing fluff. A re-imagined Squat list could offer something different from the typical AT units while still being able to go toe-to-toe with Titans.

While I'm not betting on it happening, I do think an 8mm Squat army from the 30k era is a gimmick GW could run with.

**JWBS**

MongooseMatt wrote:
Got those two Warlords painted up - and (to my eyes) they look seriously stompy!

For interest, I put some painting notes and more photos together: https://ttgamingdiary.wordpress.com/2018/08/13/battle-titans/

Short version: these models really look the part and (apart from the armour 'edging') paint up very quickly. Must have more!

Excellent work man. I was gonna say you should make a P&M thread but it looks like your blog has it covered.

**AndrewGPaul**

I ran a few demo games of the original 1988 game at a show last weekend - at least two of those games came down to a melee of armless titans kicking each other in the shins. I can't quite decide if this is a positive outcome or not, and one the new game should replicate.

I'll be Blu-Taking on the armour panels for a while, until I'm sure which Legio I want to do; My current AT models are painted as Warp Runners and Tiger Eyes; do I want to do that again? Or the classic Fire Wasps vs Death's Heads? Or paint the whole set up as Death's Heads? too many choices! In the meantime, I've pulled out my old Aeronautica Imperialis Thunderbolts out to get back into the habit of painting Epic models.

**Crimson**

Are the Titan Legions something that there are specific and limited number (Like Marine Legions) or or they more like Chapters that there are so many that you can easily make your own?

**General Helstrom**

Crimson wrote:
Are the Titan Legions something that there are specific and limited number (Like Marine Legions) or or they more like Chapters that there are so many that you can easily make your own?

They are more like chapters in that regard. Hard numbers are never given, although it is said that there are far fewer Titan legions in the 42nd Millennium than there were during the Horus Heresy. There are fifty-odd named loyalist legions and about half that number of traitor legions, according to the Warhammer 40K wiki.

**AndrewGPaul**

Crimson wrote:
Are the Titan Legions something that there are specific and limited number (Like Marine Legions) or or they more like Chapters that there are so many that you can easily make your own?

As a rule of thumb, it seems like GW don't like exhaustively listing all the different groups within a faction - Space Marine Chapters, Adepta Sororitas Militant Orders, Hive Fleets, Eldar Craftworlds, etc, for just this very reason. If in doubt, you can make up your own.

Even the missing two or three Legions were done for that reason, originally; to let you make up your own (although way back when, they were just "First Founding Chapters", and the 1st edition Space Marine game makes mention of the Crimson Fists).

**JWBS**

AndrewGPaul wrote:
I ran a few demo games of the original 1988 game at a show last weekend - at least two of those games came down to a melee of armless titans kicking each other in the shins. I can't quite decide if this is a positive outcome or not, and one the new game should replicate.

I'll be Blu-Taking on the armour panels for a while, until I'm sure which Legio I want to do; My current AT models are painted as Warp Runners and Tiger Eyes; do I want to do that again? Or the classic Fire Wasps vs Death's Heads? Or paint the whole set up as Death's Heads? too many choices! In the meantime, I've pulled out my old Aeronautica Imperialis Thunderbolts out to get back into the habit of painting Epic models.

Death's Head. Coolest name. Make some that have started to show corruption with warp lashes etc ala

**beast_gts**

People in the UK have started getting emails from indies saying GW can't supply their ordered number of GME boxes :-(

**BrianDavion**

General Helstrom wrote:
Crimson wrote:
Are the Titan Legions something that there are specific and limited number (Like Marine Legions) or or they more like Chapters that there are so many that you can easily make your own?

They are more like chapters in that regard. Hard numbers are never given, although it is said that there are far fewer Titan legions in the 42nd Millennium than there were during the Horus Heresy. There are fifty-odd named loyalist legions and about half that number of traitor legions, according to the Warhammer 40K wiki.

per word of GW, Titan's suffered such heavy losses in the Heresy they never actually recovered from it, not only where some legions destroyed and never reconsisuted, but it sounds like legions where just much smaller as a result too, going from over a hundred titans to maybe two dozen.

**xttz**

beast_gts wrote:
People in the UK have started getting emails from indies saying GW can't supply their ordered number of GME boxes :-(

Oh crap. Did you get one? What time did you place the order on Saturday?

**beast_gts**

xttz wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
People in the UK have started getting emails from indies saying GW can't supply their ordered number of GME boxes :-(

Oh crap. Did you get one? What time did you place the order on Saturday?

I ordered mine from GW (at 09:56) so hopefully I'm OK - but this has been shared on FB:

Element Games: wrote:

Dear Customer,

I'm writing to you in regards to your order with us that contains one or more Adeptus Titanicus: Grand Master Edition.

We have been advised by Games Workshop that due to unprecedented demand for the item, there is a severe worldwide shortage which is affecting all retailers. We are receiving a very small allocation of stock (around 5% of what we would normally order). They also suggested that it is highly unlikely that there will be any more stock of the item in future. As a result of this we will not be able to fulfil this part of your order at this time or in the future.

As an apology, and a gesture of good will we would be happy to offer you or Grand Master Bundle at an increased discount of 30% off (as opposed to the already advertised 20% off). This bundle would therefore be priced at £161 and includes:

1x Adeptus Titanicus: Civitas Imperialis
2x Adeptus Titanicus: Imperial Knights
1x Adeptus Titanicus: Rules Set
2x Adeptus Titanicus: Warlord Battle Titan

We appreciate this is not a perfect solution and as such we are happy to refund you for your order, either as store credit or to your original payment method. Please do let us know which of these three options is most preferable and we can arrange either the £21 payment per copy, or the refund.

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Three of four other stores have sent out similar.

**xttz**

The 30% discount is a nice touch, I'd still take that.

**Mendi Warrior**

Which are the other stores? Are they all stores that were offering discounts?

**General Helstrom**

beast_gts wrote:
We are receiving a very small allocation of stock (around 5% of what we would normally order).

Apparently retailers had been informed that there would only be 20 copies per store available (my retailer knew this, anyway). 5% of that is one copy

**beast_gts**

General Helstrom wrote:
beast_gts wrote:
We are receiving a very small allocation of stock (around 5% of what we would normally order).

Apparently retailers had been informed that there would only be 20 copies per store available (my retailer knew this, anyway). 5% of that is one copy

My local (non-GW) FLGS ordered 6, and is apparently getting them.

**Overread**

Whilst its bad news for those that pre-ordered and a pain for many stores it is GOOD NEWS because it means that despite the high price the game is selling like crazy! A good strong launch means every chance for it lasting well and getting continued support!

Which in the end is what we all want

**beast_gts**

Mendi Warrior wrote:
Which are the other stores? Are they all stores that were offering discounts?

Unfortunately it's looking like most of them

(and at least one place in Oz: )

**Mendi Warrior**

beast_gts wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
Which are the other stores? Are they all stores that were offering discounts?

Unfortunately it's looking like most of them (and at least one place in Oz: )

Mighty Ape was also offering a discount (about 15% if not mistaken)

GW Australia and New Zealand are still having some GME, at least a couple of minutes ago, all gone in the USA and Canada too.

My theory is that those offering large discounts are getting small allocations (for the GME I mean), we'll see.

**BrianDavion**

suddenly glad I decided to bite the bullet and order direct from GW

**Yodhrin**

Overread wrote:
Whilst its bad news for those that pre-ordered and a pain for many stores it is GOOD NEWS because it means that despite the high price the game is selling like crazy! A good strong launch means every chance for it lasting well and getting continued support!

Which in the end is what we all want

But it's also bad news because it seems to contradict the previous information that it wouldn't be a limited release. Oh well, just means I won't be collecting the second Warlord-heavy maniple I would have otherwise when the rumoured reprint came around.

What I find annoying about this kind of thing is how can GW be so incapable of meeting their orders? I'm not even talking about the production side - if supplies were this limited, GW should have been informing third party retailers & distributors of that well in advance and advising them to only take very limited - if any - preorders. A cynical person might think stock that would otherwise have been sent out to fill third party orders has been held back to fulfill GW webstore sales when demand proved so high so they get to keep the whole pie to themselves.

**General Helstrom**

Yodhrin wrote:
What I find annoying about this kind of thing is how can GW be so incapable of meeting their orders? I'm not even talking about the production side - if supplies were this limited, GW should have been informing third party retailers & distributors of that well in advance and advising them to only take very limited - if any - preorders. A cynical person might think stock that would otherwise have been sent out to fill third party orders has been held back to fulfill GW webstore sales when demand proved so high so they get to keep the whole pie to themselves.

GW was actually quite upfront about this. They didn't know how well it would sell, so they would produce a limited first run and a second one around Christmas or early 2019 if the first one sold well. My retailer was informed very specifically that he would have no more than 20 copies to sell.

Now, whether GW oversold through its own website and is now filling those orders at the expense of retailers is a different matter. Retailers may also have been the ones overselling here.

**Mendi Warrior**

Yodhrin wrote:

But it's also bad news because it seems to contradict the previous information that it wouldn't be a limited release. Oh well, just means I won't be collecting the second Warlord-heavy maniple I would have otherwise when the rumoured reprint came around.

I am also worried reading this. Does anyone have the communication that was sent for the 1st release of Space Hulk? Is the wording similar? Repeat story with a second run later?

**General Helstrom**

Mendi Warrior wrote:
I am also worried reading this. Does anyone have the communication that was sent for the 1st release of Space Hulk? Is the wording similar? Repeat story with a second run later?

What am I, invisible?

...

That would be really cool actually.

**Mendi Warrior**

General Helstrom wrote:
Mendi Warrior wrote:
I am also worried reading this. Does anyone have the communication that was sent for the 1st release of Space Hulk? Is the wording similar? Repeat story with a second run later?

What am I, invisible?

...

That would be really cool actually.

Apologies, I didn't saw your post before hitting submit.

**General Helstrom**

Mendi Warrior wrote:
Apologies, I didn't saw your post before hitting submit.

No worries

**Mendi Warrior**

General Helstrom wrote:

GW was actually quite upfront about this. They didn't know how well it would sell, so they would produce a limited first run and a second one around Christmas or early 2019 if the first one sold well. My retailer was informed very specifically that he would have no more than 20 copies to sell.

Now, whether GW oversold through its own website and is now filling those orders at the expense of retailers is a different matter. Retailers may also have been the ones overselling here.

They indeed have been upfront about not being able to gauge the success before actually launching the game.

I think you are right about some retailers overselling.

Two elements I would be interested in knowing is (1) if those affected are only the ones offering discounts, large ones in some cases, or everyone, and (2) if the wording is the same as for Space Hulk which was sold out in even less time (with the hope that this might indicate a potential second run) (knowing that this would merely be speculation)

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

GW did inform retailers (at least some of them) last week on the same day as store orders went live,

the facebook model retail I use shared the emails from his rep saying there was a limit of 20 per store with perhaps minor discression

he then spent the rest of the day negotiating with the rep on the phone and finally ended up with 30

I fear element games oversold, perhaps in the hope they'd get more stock, perhaps because they didn't confirm the with their rep fast enough to realise what they were doing

**midget_overlord**

I hope they make another bundle when chrisms time comes around, grand master edition V2.

By them more units will be available (and hopefully weapon sprues and upgrades!) and players will have bought the rules bu then.

A box with terrain, a warlord, reaver, and a pair of war hounds would be awesome. Sprinkle knights in there if needs be to complete the box.

**Justyn**

I see it still available from any place I have ordered from before.