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Vintersorg wrote:
So we are still missing quite a lot of weapons for the Warlord. So what's that gonna be, two more variants in two separate boxes to get the gatling blasters and volcano cannons and such?


We still need the Quake Cannon, Macro Gatler, and all the Carapace weapons, so probably another 2 Warlords at least if they decide to go with this route.
   
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I love the models, they are gorgeous but my empty wallet is crying since the news was announced

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I am so glad I never opened my GM boxes, I had a feeling I might be let down at some point with AT, it was going so well.

Im going to pop them on ebay for a bit of Christmas money and buy some titans in a years time when the load outs I want are available.


Typical GW, one step forward two steps back.
   
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Is it me or does the board in the top picture look like it is impossible to put down your (bigger) models on most of it's surface in a decent manner



 
   
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 Valkyrie wrote:
Vintersorg wrote:
So we are still missing quite a lot of weapons for the Warlord. So what's that gonna be, two more variants in two separate boxes to get the gatling blasters and volcano cannons and such?


We still need the Quake Cannon, Macro Gatler, and all the Carapace weapons, so probably another 2 Warlords at least if they decide to go with this route.


And the Lascutter. And the support missile!
   
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 TBD wrote:
Is it me or does the board in the top picture look like it is impossible to put down your (bigger) models on most of it's surface in a decent manner


They're quite spacious:

Spoiler:


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 Commander Cain wrote:
The new knights are plastic correct? They look awesome but FW resin is just too stupid expensive now.

I love the subtle design changes on the Warlord, the new head variant is my favourite so far and the extra bits on the shoulders are a nice touch as well.

I am still holding out buying any kits as I expect a big bundled deal to come along in the next year or two but I expect that this will become my preferred game system at some point!


Plastic, yes. FW confirmed this on their FB site.

The shoulders look nice, yes. I might buy one at some point to differentiate the chassii a bit, but that is not high on the priority list as much as them getting their gak sorted out. Separate upgrade release or (a very considerate and well-mannered) riot.

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Spacious?? You can only put the Reavers and Warlords in the lane in the middle. They look absolutely terrible to me

I'm planning on buying a 4x4 Urbanmatz mat and a big box of the AT buildings to go along with the GM buildings and some non-building terrain I already have. That will be a lot cheaper than four of those FW tiles and a lot more practical Imo.



 
   
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 zedmeister wrote:
 TBD wrote:
Is it me or does the board in the top picture look like it is impossible to put down your (bigger) models on most of it's surface in a decent manner


They're quite spacious:

Spoiler:




Problem is routes accessible are rather fixed. Even roads have places tricky to put. And outside roads warlords are REALLY struggling. Seems like it could hurt replayability to have warlords move on same predetermined routes.

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To be fair they never promised that weapons would come on a separate sprue by themselves.



I have been brushing up on my CAD and toying with the idea to get a 3D printer for a while, this might be the final push i need.
   
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 TBD wrote:
Spacious?? You can only put the Reavers and Warlords in the lane in the middle. They look absolutely terrible to me

I'm planning on buying a 4x4 Urbanmatz mat and a big box of the AT buildings to go along with the GM buildings and some non-building terrain I already have. That will be a lot cheaper than four of those FW tiles and a lot more practical Imo.


That’s actually intentional, Warlords are meant to have difficulty with positioning.


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 Rayvon wrote:
To be fair they never promised that weapons would come on a separate sprue by themselves.



I have been brushing up on my CAD and toying with the idea to get a 3D printer for a while, this might be the final push i need.


You know, you’re the second person to say this and I’m not sure it’s actually true.

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changemod wrote:


You know, you’re the second person to say this and I’m not sure it’s actually true.



In the seminar I was in they said that weapon upgrades were coming but it was never stated they would be available as a separate sprue, Everyone has been talking about them for ages though and I would not be surprised if it was mentioned at some point, their communication can be poor at the best of times. I have a feeling they will come separately at a later date.
   
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 Rayvon wrote:
To be fair they never promised that weapons would come on a separate sprue by themselves.



I have been brushing up on my CAD and toying with the idea to get a 3D printer for a while, this might be the final push i need.


Though if they don't sell separately then those magnet slots are pretty much useless as short of buying full kit and throwing titan itself to garbage bin you don't have spare weapons to utilize magnetic arms

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I wonder if this will be available via GW as well or just FW web. If it’s FW exclusive...well, THAT will be a dick move xxl.

   
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tneva82 wrote:
 Rayvon wrote:
To be fair they never promised that weapons would come on a separate sprue by themselves.



I have been brushing up on my CAD and toying with the idea to get a 3D printer for a while, this might be the final push i need.


Though if they don't sell separately then those magnet slots are pretty much useless as short of buying full kit and throwing titan itself to garbage bin you don't have spare weapons to utilize magnetic arms


Really? I see 4 different arm weapons now (I think). If I have 2 warlords, and 4 weapons, can't I magnetise each weapon and have...some different number of weapon options? Or do I have to have one with fist / plasma, and one with 2 volcanoes (or whatever the original arm guns are).
   
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i was looking forward to replacing my 3D printed weapons with new detailed plastic pieces from an upgrade sprue for my four Warlords. I guess that’s what I get for being an early adopter...


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JWBS wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
 Rayvon wrote:
To be fair they never promised that weapons would come on a separate sprue by themselves.



I have been brushing up on my CAD and toying with the idea to get a 3D printer for a while, this might be the final push i need.


Though if they don't sell separately then those magnet slots are pretty much useless as short of buying full kit and throwing titan itself to garbage bin you don't have spare weapons to utilize magnetic arms


Really? I see 4 different arm weapons now (I think). If I have 2 warlords, and 4 weapons, can't I magnetise each weapon and have...some different number of weapon options? Or do I have to have one with fist / plasma, and one with 2 volcanoes (or whatever the original arm guns are).


Those new weapons look like they mount in the same way as the Volcanos, they have the same bicep so they probably have the same magnet slot as well.

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JWBS wrote:

Or do I have to have one with fist / plasma, and one with 2 volcanoes (or whatever the original arm guns are).


It should probably be noted that the new Warlord comes with two arm-mounted plasma guns, and a power fist.

Can't say I like the way that this is going. If they don't release a weapons package, then add me to the list of unhappy players. At $110US each, I can't exactly afford to buy new models just to get a new gun I want to use, and I know I'm not alone. If they follow through on this stupid idea, then I foresee a lot of proxied weapons, and third party 3D printed weapons. If they refuse to release a separate weapons pack, then they're just going to shoot themselves in the foot in the long run by losing out on sales as a lot of people can't afford to shell out for that many warlords. The only people I can see who might be willing to go along with this mess are the ones who were already planning on running a Myrmidon maniple.

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Eumerin wrote:
JWBS wrote:

Or do I have to have one with fist / plasma, and one with 2 volcanoes (or whatever the original arm guns are).


It should probably be noted that the new Warlord comes with two arm-mounted plasma guns, and a power fist.

Can't say I like the way that this is going. If they don't release a weapons package, then add me to the list of unhappy players. At $110US each, I can't exactly afford to buy new models just to get a new gun I want to use, and I know I'm not alone. If they follow through on this stupid idea, then I foresee a lot of proxied weapons, and third party 3D printed weapons. If they refuse to release a separate weapons pack, then they're just going to shoot themselves in the foot in the long run by losing out on sales as a lot of people can't afford to shell out for that many warlords. The only people I can see who might be willing to go along with this mess are the ones who were already planning on running a Myrmidon maniple.


Yep. Hopefully it's some misinformation. I could live with say for a while only this and later separate(I could even buy 1 so that my mortis has 2 warlords as well) but otherwise...Yeah nope. I just declare what weapons each titan has and live with non-WYSIWYG. I don't need 6 warlords per legion!

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Here’s the best part: they didn’t design, CAD, and built the molds in the last two months, if this sprue is being cast right now for a release soon it was already done when AT launched. The lead time on plastic injection molds of GW’s quality is longer than that.
   
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 Fajita Fan wrote:
Here’s the best part: they didn’t design, CAD, and built the molds in the last two months, if this sprue is being cast right now for a release soon it was already done when AT launched. The lead time on plastic injection molds of GW’s quality is longer than that.


Umm yeah that's given. What's so interesting about that though?

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Virginia

That for $110 we can’t get both of the weapon sprues. And that’s coming from a guy with a massive collection of this stuff...
   
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Eumerin wrote:
Can't say I like the way that this is going. If they don't release a weapons package, then add me to the list of unhappy players. At $110US each, I can't exactly afford to buy new models just to get a new gun I want to use, and I know I'm not alone. If they follow through on this stupid idea, then I foresee a lot of proxied weapons, and third party 3D printed weapons. If they refuse to release a separate weapons pack, then they're just going to shoot themselves in the foot in the long run by losing out on sales as a lot of people can't afford to shell out for that many warlords. The only people I can see who might be willing to go along with this mess are the ones who were already planning on running a Myrmidon maniple.


Well, it's believable that it *could* be handled this way, unfortunately. However, I can also imagine plans changing after they get an inkling of the volume of 3D printing sales that will result from this. AT players are more likely to be vets with disposable incomes, but most won't be buying new Warlords to get a few extra bits.

Let's see how this sorts out.

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We'll find out soon enough eh.

Well that's extremely disappointing. Firstly, because I should be happy that I'm getting Cerastus Knights which I very much wanted, but instead I'm just annoyed they're holding the Mars Beta head and variant weapon loadouts hostage behind another full-price model purchase that I have no use for. Secondly, because Andy Hoare has really seriously degraded my opinion of him by resorting to weaselly semantics about how he never actually specifically said the words "the upgrade sprues will be sold on their own".

Still, as Eumerin says, they're only hurting themselves, folk will 3D model these and release them to the community now just to spite GW for this.

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I know that's what I'll be doing.

I mean, IF the new weapons and such are not available separately at some point.

Seriously bad move if this is the case - I have two Warlords.

I don't want...(X) more Warlords, but I do want the weapons...

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 Yodhrin wrote:
Well that's extremely disappointing. Firstly, because I should be happy that I'm getting Cerastus Knights which I very much wanted, but instead I'm just annoyed they're holding the Mars Beta head and variant weapon loadouts hostage behind another full-price model purchase that I have no use for. Secondly, because Andy Hoare has really seriously degraded my opinion of him by resorting to weaselly semantics about how he never actually specifically said the words "the upgrade sprues will be sold on their own".

Still, as Eumerin says, they're only hurting themselves, folk will 3D model these and release them to the community now just to spite GW for this.

Models have been out there based on the full size models since before AT was released once they announced the scale. I actually rather enjoyed tinkering with other weapon models to create my own.
   
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 Fajita Fan wrote:

Models have been out there based on the full size models since before AT was released once they announced the scale. I actually rather enjoyed tinkering with other weapon models to create my own.


Looking forward to this myself. Warglaives seem to be a good source for Reavers https://imgur.com/a/pJyMTaI what you finding good for Warlords? Contemptors, Telemon, Redemptor? I imagine the options are pretty much infinite but I'd like to see a few examples before I go buying bits that I don't already have.
   
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We'll find out soon enough eh.

 Fajita Fan wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Well that's extremely disappointing. Firstly, because I should be happy that I'm getting Cerastus Knights which I very much wanted, but instead I'm just annoyed they're holding the Mars Beta head and variant weapon loadouts hostage behind another full-price model purchase that I have no use for. Secondly, because Andy Hoare has really seriously degraded my opinion of him by resorting to weaselly semantics about how he never actually specifically said the words "the upgrade sprues will be sold on their own".

Still, as Eumerin says, they're only hurting themselves, folk will 3D model these and release them to the community now just to spite GW for this.

Models have been out there based on the full size models since before AT was released once they announced the scale. I actually rather enjoyed tinkering with other weapon models to create my own.


I've only been able to find carapace laser blasters and the plasma annihilator in the "proper" style, the others I've seen have all been original "counts-as" designs, or in a couple of cases "you have to know a guy" 3D models you have to buy. Hopefully that will now change, and we'll get the heads and aux-shield plates as well.

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I didn't expect to see the cerastus knights so soon. They look good too. Luckily I purposely waited and never bought any warlords so I'm not that angry at the moment. I am concerned about the impact this will have on the already small playerbase though. Hopefully the backlash makes them rethink this method of releasing upgrade sprues.

 
   
 
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