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 Crablezworth wrote:

 SirDonlad wrote:
That hip armour/crotch plate pic is a dead giveaway that it's going to be bigger than a warlord.
1. The warlord crotch-plate is similar in design but with only two separate layers; the warbringer also has this but it's second plate is much smaller.
2. The knee armour plates on reaver, warbringer and warlord represent a progression of that ablative armour panel with it getting bigger and nearer the hip as the size increases: this 'hip armour' preview would fit onto the end of that series.
3. Both the warbringer and the warlord titans have motive units on either side of the 'waist' extraneous to the ablative armour panels and in this we can see this same design feature, but integrated into and within an ablative armour layer.

i don't see them intentionally bucking design themes like these

The vibe i get is it has a rather squat torso, like more in line with warhound/reaver's my head is in my stomach design than wargbringer or warlord's more robust should build out. The best visual evidence I feel for it being bigger than warlord is the weapons and weapon arms seem "big" or thicker than a warlord at least where it meets the arm/shoulder.

Agreed. I’m not really getting a height vibe from what we’ve seen. Something akin to

Could be a siege titan of some sort- designed for close quarters and city warfare, more heavily armored as a result.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Could be a siege titan of some sort- designed for close quarters and city warfare, more heavily armored as a result.

Think that was the three-legged Punisher Class - replete with Wreckers, Rubble Claws and, presumably, Corvus Assault Pods

The Punisher was also unique, wasn't it?

The Siege Titan was mentioned in Titandeath - "among the largest class of Imperial Titan, being larger and heavier than a Warlord, and is designed specifically to tear down enemy fortifications. The Titan's hand armaments are a Disruption Field-covered wrecking ball and multi-headed drill."

The Punisher is from "The Beast Must Die" - "The Punisher-class titan is a rare, tri-legged pattern of Imperial Titan. The Punisher-class Titan, the Modus Destructor, was armed with twin tezlan accelerators with under-slung plasma annihilators and was deployed to the planet of Ullanor during the War of the Beast to defend the Mechanicus command center on the planet."

(Quotes from Lexicanum)

 Crablezworth wrote:

The vibe i get is it has a rather squat torso, like more in line with warhound/reaver's my head is in my stomach design than wargbringer or warlord's more robust shoulder build out. The best visual evidence I feel for it being bigger than warlord is the weapons and weapon arms seem "big" or thicker than a warlord at least where it meets the arm/shoulder.

Yep, I think the body is likely to be more squat looking at it, the reactor air intakes being side by side rather than one above the other also suggests that.

The hip joint also looks bulkier and more complex than previous titans, almost looks like there is a double joint there with an extra metal piece between the thigh and crotch section with possibly a set of pistons either side of it, but can't make out enough detail to be sure.

I still can't work out what is going on with that front armour panel though, the angles on it just don't look quite right to match up with either the chest or crotch, but maybe the photo is just at a really bad angle. I do like the fact that they've taken a cue from that old piece of artwork, I remember seeing that used in White Dwarf in the first preview of the original AT game and I much preferred the look over the warlord, so was disappointed that a model never showed up.

Strange that they're giving us a new titan before the Warbringer variant isn't it though? Hey maybe they'll give us two new titans at the same time, that would be nice.

JWBS wrote:
Strange that they're giving us a new titan before the Warbringer variant isn't it though? Hey maybe they'll give us two new titans at the same time, that would be nice.

Could be the Warbringer variant ends up being a resin add on maybe, or they just decided not to preview it as we've already seen the 40k version and it is just a weapon swap (with maybe a few different cosmetic details thrown in).

Spent some more time looking at the images and am seeing more design cues suggestive of the new titan being larger than the warlord.



1. the circular vents in the top two stills are the same design as the ones on the front of the void sheild stacks on a warlord except the warlord ones have less slats (the preview version has five) and less defention to those slats - the part-shroud over the top of the vent is consistent.
2.the leftmost plasma weapon has the bottom of an ablative armour panel at the top of that still which is protecting the 'upper arm' articulation - this feature is only found on the warlord. the warbringer has extra panels near that area, but they are connected to the shoulder armour,. not directly to the 'skeleton'.
3. the hip articulation is much more advanced that any titan released to date - this preview type is double articulated on both sides!
4. the shape of the red ablative armour panels in the top pair of stills mimics the shape of that found on the warbringer but in this version we see 'rivets' on the surrounding edging but we also see that this version has a raised edge or rim to it.

increased elaborate detail comes with increased scale.

If i was going off the deep end i would be calling this a nemesis class warlord or maybe the first centre-line weapon mount variant where the 'head' is moved up onto the top of the carapace to make way for a Deathstrike Cannon..

https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Titan_Weapons

My vote is larger than Warlord, just because we've heard the team discuss new Titans as 'tweeners, and I think the slot above Warlord may have been mentioned at some point.

Doesn't help my Ember Wolves at all, and it probably won't be something I'd add to my burgeoning True Messengers either. But it'd be very cool to have a new Titan in the game..

If it is bigger than a Warlord then its going to lead to the inevitable "Ursus Claws. Man them." meme.

Unfortunately claws -- although underwhelming overall -- work better against the small Titans than the big ones.

But sure, I'll bite.

Classic!

The new issue of White Dwarf( 460 ) includes a 4-page guide to getting the most out of the maniples.

SamusDrake wrote:
The new issue of White Dwarf( 460 ) includes a 4-page guide to getting the most out of the maniples.

Would you say worth pickling up or no?

 schoon wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
The new issue of White Dwarf( 460 ) includes a 4-page guide to getting the most out of the maniples.

Would you say worth pickling up or no?

No, it's literally explaining what the different maniple types are and how to use them. So written for very new or inexperienced players. There's no new rules in the magazine.

Unless you want to collect every WD article on AT ever written, I wouldn't bother.

In a nutshell, don't buy it just for that one article. Its nice to have something about AT in the magazine these days, but you can just zip over to Goonhammer for tactics all the same.

I really hope we see the new boi in the preview on Saturday!

Indeed. The last preview was a bit annoying after a long year of waiting, so hopefully we'll not only see that titan in full but also an accompanying book too.

You know, tactically speaking, I think a heavy Titan in a more squat configuration would be interesting.

Warlords are trickier to hide than Reavers, and far more tricky than Warhounds.

So something slow but very snooty that can hide is definitely a new tactical niche.

Damn, was about to say "maybe its the return of the Warden!" but if memory serves that was just a knight...

 ImAGeek wrote:
I really hope we see the new boi in the preview on Saturday!

While I share the hope, it doesn't fit well into their theme. We'll see on Saturday.

Don't think they've shown any AT stuff in online previews like this. However the next Engine Kill article is due next week, so fingers crossed...

SamusDrake wrote:
Damn, was about to say "maybe its the return of the Warden!" but if memory serves that was just a knight...

Yup, the Warden is a knight - and is one of the configurations in 40k at the moment, AFAIK.

There's a first time for everything...

Ooh, I guess that will be the full reveal of the new Titan then, wonder if there will be anything else.

 xttz wrote:
Don't think they've shown any AT stuff in online previews like this. However the next Engine Kill article is due next week, so fingers crossed...

I thought they've revealed Knights and splatbooks before?

 Arbitrator wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Don't think they've shown any AT stuff in online previews like this. However the next Engine Kill article is due next week, so fingers crossed...

I thought they've revealed Knights and splatbooks before?

Yeah they have. And the new Titan was teased in literally the last preview they hyped up.

About time they had a decent preview.

Probably going to be a release of the firewasps transfers, new titan, book( for its maniples ) and the Warbringer variant.

Last years knight releases were disappointing, so either an FAQ to improve the current knights or a new Dominus plastic kit would be more than welcome.

SamusDrake wrote:
About time they had a decent preview.

Probably going to be a release of the firewasps transfers, new titan, book( for its maniples ) and the Warbringer variant.

Last years knight releases were disappointing, so either an FAQ to improve the current knights or a new Dominus plastic kit would be more than welcome.

Lol. They're showing the new Titan, and that's it The other 8 things you listed, not happening.