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Another crucial bit of info from Social Media concerning the Dire Wolf:

Hobby Butterfly Nelly
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This is really exciting news! For the AT fans, will the terminals be included?

Warhammer Official
@warhammer
They will! You'll be able to use them in both Legions Imperialis and Adeptus Titanicus right out of the box.

https://twitter.com/TrimControls/status/1677044420552671232

So terminals in the box confirmed.

In case no one's posted it yet (and in case there was still any doubt), GW posted this in today's 'burning questions' LI article:

Will the Adeptus Titanicus and Aeronautica Imperialis Still be Supported?

Adeptus Titanicus and Aeronautica Imperialis are both fantastic games that dig into the intricacies of the specific forms of combat they represent. Legions Imperialis is designed to represent a massive combined arms battle on all fronts, and its rules for aircraft and Titans are more streamlined. Support for Adeptus Titanicus and Aeronautica Imperialis (in the Horus Heresy setting only) will continue, so you can continue to play these games alongside this exciting new epic scale game.

I'm not quite sure how they can continue to support AI when they've also said that all the Xenos ships and Imperial Guard are being retired from the range right now.

Kind of sounds like its going to be 1 boxed set and a few aircraft that hang about and that's it. Which does count as supporting, just in a really really stripped down form.


Glad that its not a full death, but at hte same time for many players its going to be a functional death unless those removed aircraft come around in range rotation reprints fairly often.

I can imagine that AI will most likely be the various Space Marine flyers, a few of the Imperial Army craft that still remain, and then there's stuff like the Adeptus Custodes and Mechanicum.

 Overread wrote:
I'm not quite sure how they can continue to support AI when they've also said that all the Xenos ships and Imperial Guard are being retired from the range right now.

Kind of sounds like its going to be 1 boxed set and a few aircraft that hang about and that's it. Which does count as supporting, just in a really really stripped down form.


Glad that its not a full death, but at hte same time for many players its going to be a functional death unless those removed aircraft come around in range rotation reprints fairly often.

It will probably amount to doing AI rules for whatever flyers turn up in LI (perhaps some more Custodes flyers, IA flyers, more SM stuff, Mechanicus flyers, perhaps SoS and so on, maybe even legion-specific stuff) and doing maybe some more Ace cards, and maybe a campaign book or whatever. That GW has done nothing for the game for some time does not mean that there are no options they could do if they wanted to. As a minimum, rules for new models are effectively as good as free to release digitally.

Yea I expect them to just publish Aeronautica rules for new flyers as they're released for Epic. Ideally they would also come with AI bases in the box like titans apparently still come with terminals.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

leopard wrote:
I quite like it, has the look of a force making use of what they have.

"we need heavier weapons!"
"we won't get supply for some time, we could take weapons from damaged larger titans and fit to a warhound? I mean its not designed for it so the arm mounts would have to be non-energy weapons maybe?"
"would that work?"
"... perhaps it can be made to..."

and thus this is born, and over time a field modification is refined

Heresy.

What you described is referred to as heresy.

In 40k, sure. But in 30k or before, when new stuff was being rediscovered, makes tons of sense that the mechanicum might plug various STC fragments together and see what the result is.

I was pretty sure that the concept of techno-heresy was still around in 30k. The 30k era mechanicum is just as superstitious and religious as the 40k era adeptus mechanicus. The wider imperium became more religious, but the mechanicum was already and the Cult Mechanicus a powerful force there when the Emperor convinced them to follow him as the Omnissiah/Machine God and sign the Treaty of Olympus to unify Mars and Terra. Ironic given the while Imperial Truth thing, but that's what the fluff says.

That's a big part of why the mechanicum participated in the schism and many joined horus, because there was a big doubt that the Emperor was actually the Machine God.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

*raises hand* Havent been to any of the official walks yet though.

I'm sure that day will come. So what Titans you got then?

 Overread wrote:
I'm not quite sure how they can continue to support AI when they've also said that all the Xenos ships and Imperial Guard are being retired from the range right now.

(In the Horus Heresy setting only)


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SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

It's funny, back when we did titans on the stores for Games Day, we used to make them A LOT bigger than what they're selling now ^^. Like the warlords went almost up to my torax.

MajorWes, message received. Sounds quite a caper...




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 Albertorius wrote:


It's funny, back when we did titans on the stores for Games Day, we used to make them A LOT bigger than what they're selling now ^^. Like the warlords went almost up to my torax.

Sounds like the days when Gargants were made out of upside-down flower pots and lots and lots of kitbashing. That would have been a hilarious project for Blue Peter...

leopard wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d even settle for Warlords no longer requiring matched pair carapace weapons.

yes that confused me, easily done I admit, at first - was used to differential pairs or stripping the hull down for greater speed in earlier additions

Would have not that isignificant effect on game balance though resulting in softer titans.

SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

 Rolsheen wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

Dire Wolf is a lot more likely. Especially now with 3 carapace options. Wish they would full size more of the arm and carapace mounts that exist in AT scale.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

Dire Wolf is a lot more likely. Especially now with 3 carapace options. Wish they would full size more of the arm and carapace mounts that exist in AT scale.

It'd be nice if it had as many torso weapon options.

SamusDrake wrote:
Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

I'll admit that a Reaver as a massive hobby project is quite tempting...

 Rolsheen wrote:


"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

Keep an eye on this...

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/combat-director

 Lord Borak wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:


"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

Keep an eye on this...

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/combat-director

Has anyone done a 28mm scale one?

That is a 28mm one!!

Suddenly I wish I had bought a BattleBling Mighty Warbreaker, for some reason.

 Lord Borak wrote:
That is a 28mm one!!

I know, just haven't seen anyone print it at 28


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chaos0xomega wrote:
Suddenly I wish I had bought a BattleBling Mighty Warbreaker, for some reason.

It's cool for display, just really really big game-wise.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Suddenly I wish I had bought a BattleBling Mighty Warbreaker, for some reason.

For AT18, it's an almost game breaking piece of kit - though it does look very cool.

For the new "epic" it might just be usable...

I mean, its not like it has official rules anyway, if its "game breaking" its because the house rules are OP.

 schoon wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Suddenly I wish I had bought a BattleBling Mighty Warbreaker, for some reason.

For AT18, it's an almost game breaking piece of kit - though it does look very cool.

For the new "epic" it might just be usable...

Warmaster surprisingly functions but, sorta only works well in mirror match. But it's sorta the limit, I also feel they could have printed the same design a wee bit smaller, at least on the castle side, the body is ok but the castle seems out of scale.


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chaos0xomega wrote:
I mean, its not like it has official rules anyway, if its "game breaking" its because the house rules are OP.

To their credit they did make rules and I believe like 2 levels of rules, one more streamlined and playable and one more on the powerful side if I'm not mistaken.

Moot point unless they ever decide to do another production run of them :(

Must admit, I don't like the Mars pattern look for the Imperator. I'm much fonder of the classic look

 Rolsheen wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/14/titan-owners-club-meet-the-biggest-fans-in-warhammer/

Alright, own up - which of you princeps are in league with these mad hatters?

"Currently Forge World make four sizes of Titan: a Warhound, a Reaver, a Warbringer Nemesis, and a mighty Warlord"
What do you mean "currently?" Is that a Warmaster I see in the distance?

There are some rumours that the Warhound would be moving to plastic, in which case it would be three.

But I imagine it's just clumsy phrasing.

 Albertorius wrote:
Must admit, I don't like the Mars pattern look for the Imperator. I'm much fonder of the classic look

Spoiler:

I'm very much the opposite. I find it looks goofy and proportionally awkward. I also find it disconcerting that the design language of the classic Imperator is so dramatically different from any of the others.

chaos0xomega wrote:
I mean, its not like it has official rules anyway, if its "game breaking" its because the house rules are OP.

Does anyone remember the glory days of Titanicus when GW released award winning rules for the Acastus? Y'know, 4 Knights to a banner, 110 points fully tooled up and the Asterius cost exactly the same as the Porphyrion?