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Wondering if those rules will be exactly the same, and if Adeptus Titanicus has been renamed "Legions Imperialis"...

 zedmeister wrote:

leopard wrote:
interesting noting rules are in the new game rule book, no mention of this coming with a command terminal in the box though, or cards

maybe AT is about to see a change?

The little note at the bottom - rules are provided - seem to hint the box will come with the cards

I would hope so but they also note the rules are in the new book

to be honest they really should have the terminals and weapons cards in the boxes

leopard wrote:
interesting noting rules are in the new game rule book, no mention of this coming with a command terminal in the box though, or cards

maybe AT is about to see a change?

It could be done in the traditional GW approach of cards/rules in box, collected in an annual book - thus you could also roll out some stuff via WD or whatever, without people getting riled up too much if they missed anything.

Boosykes wrote:
Gota say cool addition but I think the regular war hound looks better

Extending the ardex barrels a little did the trick for me.



More plastic for AT is a good thing.

 gorgon wrote:

Boosykes wrote:
Gota say cool addition but I think the regular war hound looks better

Extending the ardex barrels a little did the trick for me.

Spoiler:

More plastic for AT is a good thing.

Very effective for such a simple conversion, looks much more dynamic somehow.

I think what could also help would be to have some cables, or a banner/trophies hang from the torso, below the head, to break up the 'chicken' look it has going on.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
While I feel a bit sorry for anyone who bought the old one that's been replaced so quickly... I am also all for rotating bad models out of the range quickly, and the resin one was awful.

I bought one on Pre-Order and I still haven't built it yet

The New Beamer looks cool. Reaver arm sized Beamer??? Hopefully that means we'll get some new arm options for the Reaver. Here's hoping.


As for the rules. It says

"Rules for this Titan hunter will be available in the main Legions Imperialis rulebook,* while the box contains a pair of Dire Wolf Heavy Scout Titans – just like regular Warhounds. And remember, they can be used in both games of Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis.

* Rules for the new conversion beam dissipator in Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis are provided."

 Lord Borak wrote:
The New Beamer looks cool. Reaver arm sized Beamer??? Hopefully that means we'll get some new arm options for the Reaver. Here's hoping.

Hoping for that and Neutron Laser arm weapons.

Also, I suspect a lot of the existing resin weapons will be moved over to plastic. Hopefully with new head variants...

Sweet!

Forge World facebook profile says AT weapon cards are in the box for certain, not sure if both types of bases are included.

 Lord Borak wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:
While I feel a bit sorry for anyone who bought the old one that's been replaced so quickly... I am also all for rotating bad models out of the range quickly, and the resin one was awful.

I bought one on Pre-Order and I still haven't built it yet

The New Beamer looks cool. Reaver arm sized Beamer??? Hopefully that means we'll get some new arm options for the Reaver. Here's hoping.


As for the rules. It says

"Rules for this Titan hunter will be available in the main Legions Imperialis rulebook,* while the box contains a pair of Dire Wolf Heavy Scout Titans – just like regular Warhounds. And remember, they can be used in both games of Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis.

* Rules for the new conversion beam dissipator in Adeptus Titanicus and Legions Imperialis are provided."

Interesting tidbit from the social media team:

EccentricNormality
@EccentricBen
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1h
Does legions Imperialis still use the titanicus control terminals? Or will you need a set for each game?



Warhammer Official
@warhammer
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1h
No, Titanicus is far more granular. There's no mechanic for managing reactors in Legions Imperialis and the rules you need will all be in the Core rules book at launch.

https://twitter.com/EccentricBen/status/1676940516028448770

Other random info:

- base is 80mm https://twitter.com/matheusdamas__/status/1676948123573452802
- no confirmation yet to release the LI bases separately https://twitter.com/tommybutters/status/1676951450164027393
- no confirmation on porting other titans from resin to plastic yet https://twitter.com/goatboyalpha/status/1676953601955205122
- no confirmation on rapier https://twitter.com/jamesocarter/status/1676947580834443265
- coy 'it could happen, teehee' when asked about plastic titans in 40k scale https://twitter.com/DavidPe12606855/status/1676948574045650945

Anyone asked about my boys Armiger in plastic?

Chopstick wrote:
Anyone asked about my boys Armiger in plastic?

That would not help you, as long as stuff is not revealed yet the social media person always answers 'Might happen one day, we have to wait and see' or some variant thereof. It could be something that was literally slated for release the day after you asked that question, answer would still be the same

Chopstick wrote:
Anyone asked about my boys Armiger in plastic?

Given what we've seen so far, its now looking more likely.

Tsagualsa wrote:


Interesting tidbit from the social media team:

EccentricNormality
@EccentricBen
·
1h
Does legions Imperialis still use the titanicus control terminals? Or will you need a set for each game?



Warhammer Official
@warhammer
·
1h
No, Titanicus is far more granular. There's no mechanic for managing reactors in Legions Imperialis and the rules you need will all be in the Core rules book at launch.

So pretty much what we expected then. If you want to play a Titan battle game, play AT. If you want a combined arms game with some Titans in the mix, play LI.

Not surprised they didn't confirm the Rapier on social media But I think the plastic DW means it has a good chance to happen now. .


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SamusDrake wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Anyone asked about my boys Armiger in plastic?

Given what we've seen so far, its now looking more likely.

I agree. I wouldn't mind having some for the collection, but the prices on that resin kit are eye-watering even for FW.

So since we now know they are willing to port resin AT stuff to plastic the "No longer available" Warlord Psi Titan is looking mighty suspicious.
Especially since it wouldn't need a whole kit, just an upgrade sprue.
New Warlord sprue with some previously resin weapons and the parts for this guy?

 gorgon wrote:


I agree. I wouldn't mind having some for the collection, but the prices on that resin kit are eye-watering even for FW.

It was the final staw for me and gave up on collecting for the game after that. Only purchase I've made since is the Knight card pack, and only because I missed out on it back in 2019.

I was like one click from ordering a resin one 3 days ago, very glad I didn't now.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
Anyone asked about my boys Armiger in plastic?

That would not help you, as long as stuff is not revealed yet the social media person always answers 'Might happen one day, we have to wait and see' or some variant thereof. It could be something that was literally slated for release the day after you asked that question, answer would still be the same

Unusually had a few quite specific answers today that show knowledge of the kits and rules, and there’s at least two people answering (because they both answered the same question).

The new Dire Wolf guns getting Titanicus rules was a pleasant surprise. Fingers crossed this means that the two games are going to coexist under the Epic scale banner.

leopard wrote:
I quite like it, has the look of a force making use of what they have.

"we need heavier weapons!"
"we won't get supply for some time, we could take weapons from damaged larger titans and fit to a warhound? I mean its not designed for it so the arm mounts would have to be non-energy weapons maybe?"
"would that work?"
"... perhaps it can be made to..."

and thus this is born, and over time a field modification is refined

Heresy.

What you described is referred to as heresy.

chaos0xomega wrote:

leopard wrote:
I quite like it, has the look of a force making use of what they have.

"we need heavier weapons!"
"we won't get supply for some time, we could take weapons from damaged larger titans and fit to a warhound? I mean its not designed for it so the arm mounts would have to be non-energy weapons maybe?"
"would that work?"
"... perhaps it can be made to..."

and thus this is born, and over time a field modification is refined

Heresy.

What you described is referred to as heresy.

In 40k, sure. But in 30k or before, when new stuff was being rediscovered, makes tons of sense that the mechanicum might plug various STC fragments together and see what the result is.

No, Titanicus is far more granular. There's no mechanic for managing reactors in Legions Imperialis and the rules you need will all be in the Core rules book at launch.

Not really unexpected here. With all the units and forces involved, some amount of streamlining was necessary.

AT is a game of Princeps commanding Titans.

This is a general commanding a larger force.

 RexHavoc wrote:

If they really wanted to do something that appealed to Epic fanbase and not just HH, why not put out a game with less units to start. A sprue of infantry & basic tanks/dreads for both Marines and Orks. Then, if it sells well then move into making all those tank variations. Then re-box AI & AT to coincide with the first gargant release. And on and on until all the races are accounted for. By the time the have the entire HH range out, someone else will have made every kind of ork in the new epic scale/style.

Marines sell more.




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 RexHavoc wrote:

You also have things like them claiming it takes three years, but had new armies coming out in the first year of Age of Sigmar. Most stories from Ex GW workers/writers seem to point to AoS being written on the tail end of the end times, when they had already spent time writing what should have been WFB 9th. Which means they either planned to have giant chaos warriors, stormcasts, flying dwarves and sea elves appear in WFB or their plastics development time is lot, lot shorter than they claim it to be.

Work on aos started summer 2012.

3 years before rele@sb...

Tail end of end times would have meant not even tlme to get items printed and delivered. You think gw controls time?


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 gorgon wrote:
Yeah, "you might get it in 3-5 years" effectively means it isn't going to happen for many of the current customers. Lots will have moved on to other games, gotten out of the hobby, etc. "Someday" isn't a business plan -- it's the absence of a business plan.

Gw looks at future.

Somebody leaves? Fine. Another customer comes up.

Gw's priority been always new customers over old.


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leopard wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

leopard wrote:
interesting noting rules are in the new game rule book, no mention of this coming with a command terminal in the box though, or cards

maybe AT is about to see a change?

The little note at the bottom - rules are provided - seem to hint the box will come with the cards

I would hope so but they also note the rules are in the new book

to be honest they really should have the terminals and weapons cards in the boxes

Book is for epic rules. For at card/pamphlet for weapon.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

leopard wrote:
I quite like it, has the look of a force making use of what they have.

"we need heavier weapons!"
"we won't get supply for some time, we could take weapons from damaged larger titans and fit to a warhound? I mean its not designed for it so the arm mounts would have to be non-energy weapons maybe?"
"would that work?"
"... perhaps it can be made to..."

and thus this is born, and over time a field modification is refined

Heresy.

What you described is referred to as heresy.

In 40k, sure. But in 30k or before, when new stuff was being rediscovered, makes tons of sense that the mechanicum might plug various STC fragments together and see what the result is.

well to be fair heretical actions in a time of heresy seems fitting

 zedmeister wrote:

 Lord Borak wrote:
The New Beamer looks cool. Reaver arm sized Beamer??? Hopefully that means we'll get some new arm options for the Reaver. Here's hoping.

Hoping for that and Neutron Laser arm weapons.

Also, I suspect a lot of the existing resin weapons will be moved over to plastic. Hopefully with new head variants...

I'm not sure I like the idea of loads of Neutron lasers everywhere. Having your a chunk of your force shut down in turn 1 isn't the most fun of games to play. The move from REsin to Plastic though would be nice but the resin models are nice and, as I have loads already, I wouldn't get them anyway. I'd rather see a sprue of newer weapons.

However GW does like taking things from FW and turning them into plastics so I'm sure we'll see a sprue with loads of different weapon options. Hopefully with some new ones squeezed in!! (Looking at you Warlord scale Melta Cannon and chainfist)

 Lord Borak wrote:
Hopefully with some new ones squeezed in!! (Looking at you Warlord scale Melta Cannon and chainfist)

Warlord support missile racks, corvus pods, fire control towers and landing pads, warbringer carapace options

now all those lovely metal upgrades the beatlebacks used to be able to get would be wonderful

I’d even settle for Warlords no longer requiring matched pair carapace weapons.

Epic certainly does open up a lot of other gear for Titans. Certainly the command heads/towers and some landing pads with AA towers would be useful. We might find a lot of the 'meh' weapons in Titanicus become more handy in Epic, like lasers and Volkites.

Very much waiting for next Thursday to see what other toys we'll get! I'll be incredibly disappointed if they waste it on some silly 28mm game.

 Lord Borak wrote:
Epic certainly does open up a lot of other gear for Titans. Certainly the command heads/towers and some landing pads with AA towers would be useful. We might find a lot of the 'meh' weapons in Titanicus become more handy in Epic, like lasers and Volkites.

Very much waiting for next Thursday to see what other toys we'll get! I'll be incredibly disappointed if they waste it on some silly 28mm game.

Wouldn't expect another titanicus reveal already next week. Probably some LI stuff. I think Rhinos or Land Raiders would be likely

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’d even settle for Warlords no longer requiring matched pair carapace weapons.

yes that confused me, easily done I admit, at first - was used to differential pairs or stripping the hull down for greater speed in earlier additions