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 schoon wrote:
Both dice and transfers are welcome restocks.

Dice are a little surprising as they're AT only and not dual use with LI.

I've found that the order dice are surprisingly useful for solo games of Legions.

Don't really care about the transfers as I think they were frequently going in and out of stock anyway.

Dice is nice, I was hoping to pick up another set (beyond what comes in the starter) for the sake of getting order dice to use in Epic 40k.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Don't really care about the transfers as I think they were frequently going in and out of stock anyway.

Dice is nice, I was hoping to pick up another set (beyond what comes in the starter) for the sake of getting order dice to use in Epic 40k.

The fact they frequently go out of stock is why it’s always nice to see them come back. The transfer sheets are lovely and I think they really make a difference for finished titans, they can just be a pain to get hold of (apart from Gryphonicus and Mortis which are permanent items).

 ImAGeek wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Don't really care about the transfers as I think they were frequently going in and out of stock anyway.

Dice is nice, I was hoping to pick up another set (beyond what comes in the starter) for the sake of getting order dice to use in Epic 40k.

The fact they frequently go out of stock is why it’s always nice to see them come back. The transfer sheets are lovely and I think they really make a difference for finished titans, they can just be a pain to get hold of (apart from Gryphonicus and Mortis which are permanent items).

I might be mistaken, but if you had "notify me when restocked" on for a particular decal sheet, there would have been an opportunity to buy them.

But yeah, I do wish GW would just keep them in stock, surely they don't take up much space relative to their price. Same is true of Horus Heresy, just a roll of the dice when you start a HH force (or LI force) whether you'll actually be able to get decals for it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Don't really care about the transfers as I think they were frequently going in and out of stock anyway.

Dice is nice, I was hoping to pick up another set (beyond what comes in the starter) for the sake of getting order dice to use in Epic 40k.

The fact they frequently go out of stock is why it’s always nice to see them come back. The transfer sheets are lovely and I think they really make a difference for finished titans, they can just be a pain to get hold of (apart from Gryphonicus and Mortis which are permanent items).

I might be mistaken, but if you had "notify me when restocked" on for a particular decal sheet, there would have been an opportunity to buy them.

But yeah, I do wish GW would just keep them in stock, surely they don't take up much space relative to their price. Same is true of Horus Heresy, just a roll of the dice when you start a HH force (or LI force) whether you'll actually be able to get decals for it.

I mean the only ones on the site at the moment are Gryphonicus and Mortis. I seem to remember them essentially being limited edition that they happened to do the odd extra run of, rather than sticking around on the site when they run out, but I could be wrong.

Starter's back in stock UK/EU

It took me way to long to connect the Direwolf with AT and not BT.

So, with the reveal of Knight equivalent models as part of the Dark Mechanicum release...

Do we think they'll possibly still come with AT command terminals?

Maybe as a digital download. My hope for Dark Mech is that it will lead to models for the Slaaneshi Hell Knights and Quaestor scout titan. Mechanicum and Dark Mechanicum in LI would be a good excuse for those, as well as chaos titan sprues and possibly some more weapon sprues for the battle titans.

The article about the next LI book says it also has rules for Knights/Titan only armies which does increase my hope for the Mechanicum Knights to go plastic too with that release.

 Matrindur wrote:
The article about the next LI book says it also has rules for Knights/Titan only armies which does increase my hope for the Mechanicum Knights to go plastic too with that release.

Or at least plastic armigers.

I'm really liking the new Mechanicum stuff for LI. I'm really hoping they get rules for AT!!

It's been very quiet on the AT front. Almost like they've forgotten about us and all those cool Titan classes they kept hinting at....

Against overwhelmingly better judgement( its looking very bleak ), I shall put it aside for a moment and indulge...

Dark Mechanicum would introduce a new loyalty to the game and would warrant lore content. Along with Renegade banners( Page 91, Defence of Ryza ) and maybe the addition of models like the seige-automata, a new maniple or two...there's a good book's worth to be had here.

The chances of getting an Epic scale Brass Scorpion are pretty slim, but I think the 28mm model is now classified as a Horus Heresy one, so I won't abandon hope.

One *would think* that some kind of corrupted Knight kit that other Traitor factions could access would make more business sense than these apparently dedicated Mechanicum walkers.

Then again, one would think that GW would have created a simple corruptions sprue for the AT/LI Titans by now, and that hasn't happened and maybe never will.

Yeah its a really odd gap; then again I think its because its HH and its tied to the 32mm scale. There's this strange marketing/management thing going on in the background and I think its why we haven't had any chaos corrupted titans and such - because they aren't on the roster for the 32mm for ages.

Or heck it might even be some crazy "Chaos titans are a 40K thing you can't do them..."


I won't complain one bit about them doing Dark Mechanicum, but I can find it odd that Chaos is the other-side of this game and hasn't really had a model release yet.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xd9mklal/heresy-thursday-raise-your-oily-manipulators-to-the-sky-in-praise-of-the-dark-mechanicum/

LI just revealed some more Dark Mech units and also confirmed this:

And what's more both boxes contain the relevant terminals for using the Errax, Tenebrax, Scintillax, and Serperos in games of Adeptus Titanicus!

Both boxes here referring to the Serperos box which has 4 of the big one revealed at Warhammer Day with the other box having 2 each of the other three types and 8 more of a smaller swarm type that doesn't have AT rules.
The three medium bots are a shooty, a melee and a controller variant of the same base.

This also makes me very hopeful for some the big Mechanicum bots to get AT rules as it would be a bit strange to only get rules for Dark Mech bots. And I'm not counting Mechanicum Knights for that since they can also be used by Dark Mech as the article confirms

Been a pretty decent week for all things Epic Scale.

Fourth faction for LI, and now confirmation Adeptus Titanicus hasn’t been entirely forgotten about.

Good news indeed. I'd be impressed if GW announces a new Dark-Mech campaign book for AT, accompanied by the Titan and Knight bundles.

There was a long rumoured corrupted Titan frame wasn't there?

It was a very logical rumour since they made the frame to have optional armour parts specifically so they could do a corrupted titan. It was what everyone was thinking would happen once they did a majority of the Imperial Titans to keep AT going. Instead they went sideways into AI.

I suspect there ARE designs for it - perhaps even parted and ready for mouldmaking. When (and I really hope its a when not an if) we see them is very very hard to tell.


It's at least more hopeful than seeing Xenos which I suspect will either never come or are over a decade away

A new edition set in the 40K era would make a lot of sense, if GW wants to keep AT around. It would provide far greater contrast with Legions Imperialis, and they could begin with Lucius and Chaos patterns of the three main titans - Lord, Reaver and Hound. They only need to swap the armour sprues from the existing LI kits into "40K: Titans" kits.

Keep it to just Titans, and they can cater to all the relevent factions, while also addressing the main criticism of the game. And it would be a 40K game, where players can finally afford that Titan of their dreams...it would be a best seller for GW.

Also, AT-18 players will be getting new books that aren't just updates of those they already own.

SamusDrake wrote:
Good news indeed. I'd be impressed if GW announces a new Dark-Mech campaign book for AT, accompanied by the Titan and Knight bundles.

Add a few more legios to get fluff and rules and that could be an amazing book.

If/when GW gets around to doing the ordinatus minoris in plastic for LI, that could justify another AT book as well.

While I would really love a new book, I think we will continue to see a dribble of materials in the form of LI releases that contain AT terminals or cards.

As long as we're getting new toys for our giant stompy robots...

 Overread wrote:
It was a very logical rumour since they made the frame to have optional armour parts specifically so they could do a corrupted titan. It was what everyone was thinking would happen once they did a majority of the Imperial Titans to keep AT going. Instead they went sideways into AI.

I suspect there ARE designs for it - perhaps even parted and ready for mouldmaking. When (and I really hope its a when not an if) we see them is very very hard to tell.


It's at least more hopeful than seeing Xenos which I suspect will either never come or are over a decade away

I think it was more than a rumour, as I swear we had it from the horse’s mouth that was their original intention, and indeed why the plating was separate pieces.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

I think it was more than a rumour, as I swear we had it from the horse’s mouth that was their original intention, and indeed why the plating was separate pieces.

Well their original intent in choosing the current AT scale (which is a bit bigger than previous Epic) was also at which scale a normal space marine would still have enough details if I remember correctly.
And look how long it took for that to happen.

So even if they make a decision with something else in mind it can take a long time for that something else to happen

Oh yes and GW were VERY clear that they weren't going to do epic, they left all the tools on the table to do it, but were very clear that they were not going to do it.

Until they did of course.

I think the mystery is more at just how long a clearly financially viable product has sold without advancing its product line in a direction that everyone can see is viable.


It might just be that Gw feels that the models like Warlords sell well enough when both sides have them, but halving the market for them by releasing unique Chaos ones might halve the buying power whilst doubling the input from GW.
Even though we know that providing different foes DOES help sell core Imperial stuff

I guess it all depends.

The formula can’t be “will all kits sell equally”, because the answer to that is a big fat No, Of Course Not.

Instead, I’m guessing it’s “are we making enough money from the existing range to justify the expense of adding new kits, and do we think that new kit will increase income overall”. Because nothing sells in a vacuum.

Consider Epic. If it’s selling strongly enough as it is? It’s a sign there’s significant demand for this scale of gaming. Enough that, in due course, Xenos armies and a 40K setting would be self supporting in terms of investment and income and so on. Especially as there’s some risk a 40K scale could cannibalise sales for Heresy.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I think it was more than a rumour, as I swear we had it from the horse’s mouth that was their original intention, and indeed why the plating was separate pieces.

 Matrindur wrote:
Well their original intent in choosing the current AT scale (which is a bit bigger than previous Epic) was also at which scale a normal space marine would still have enough details if I remember correctly.

Until they did of course.

Yeah these things influenced early design choices for AT kits and were confirmed by the studio. In both cases it's just a case of future-proofing the range for things that they didn't have immediate plans to create a product for, but might at some point in the 10-20 year lifespan of the kits.

Starting the development of LI was no doubt a response to the over-performing sales figures in the first couple years of AT. If Epic scale continues to grow and perform then GW may decide it'll be profitable to do alternate titan armour designs in however many years.

Thing is we never really know how well any game or kits actually sells numerically or such.


I do think that at one time the Kirby management was trying to go for "all kits sell equally" or at least "lets use marines as the baseline/target". Which resulted in policies that weren't the best for the customer.

GW today seems much more aware that not everything in their roster has to perform at the same level and that there's value in lesser performance titles because they help keep people within the GW ecosystem rather than letting 3rd parties rise up. Plus even lesser sales are still healthy and profitable.



I think the big thing for both AT and AI is how much its paired with HH. We know that designs are shared between them for a uniform appearance (even if the smaller scale ones are likely fully reworked not just hitting resize and done). However it depends if there's any strange policies in the background. Like each game must have the same roster of models or such. Not necessarily at the same time, but over the course of X amount of time.

Or its a resource battle where the team has enough product slots to support one game well but now its spread over technically 3 games