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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, no news about which factions will have rules?

We've seen about 16.

Skitarii Rangers
Chaos Space Marines
Cultists
Dark Eldar Wyches
Dire Avengers
Eldar Guardians
Harlequin Troupe
Grey Knights Strike Squad
Necron Immortals
Necron Warriors
Tau Empire Pathfinder Team
Tyranid Warrior Brood
Neophyte Hybrids
Scouts
Scouts with sniper rifles
Cadian Infantry Squad
Ork Boyz

We also saw Tau fire warriors and breachers mixed in the same kill team from the video.

Boo, hopefully the Chaos Space Marines get broken down to use the new Thousand Sons and upcoming Death Guard in some way.

Would be cool if they did rules for Inquisitor Retinues later on.

We should find out on Saturday, as then the relevant boxed sets should have links to their Kill Team lists.

Did I miss something over the years, or has Armageddon always "originally been known as Ullanor"?

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, no news about which factions will have rules?

We've seen about 16.

Skitarii Rangers
Chaos Space Marines
Cultists
Dark Eldar Wyches
Dire Avengers
Eldar Guardians
Harlequin Troupe
Grey Knights Strike Squad
Necron Immortals
Necron Warriors
Tau Empire Pathfinder Team
Tyranid Warrior Brood
Neophyte Hybrids
Scouts
Scouts with sniper rifles
Cadian Infantry Squad
Ork Boyz

Those are (some of) the box sets you can buy which contain models useable in the game; not quite the same thing. For example, Scouts and Scouts with Sniper Rifles are almost certainly one faction, and the genestealer Cult faction includes models from at least three different box sets (and a couple of models from Deathwatch Overkill).

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Like all the battle reports for Necromunda, where the players used their own converted gangs? No, that's not right ...

Battle reports for Necromunda? From 20-ish years ago? Wow. You sure got me there.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Did I miss something over the years, or has Armageddon always "originally been known as Ullanor"?

So it's only been known as that for the last year or so since the book came out.

Roger that. I never finished the last two books in the series.

Interesting that they just have it out in the open on the "Ups and Downs" bit for Armageddon.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Like all the battle reports for Necromunda, where the players used their own converted gangs? No, that's not right ...

Battle reports for Necromunda? From 20-ish years ago? Wow. You sure got me there.

Three I can recall; Issue 191 had a battle between Goliaths and Orlocks, 198 had Ratskins vs Escher and 203 had Delaques and Adeptus Arbites vs Escher ("Papa" Steve Anastasoff's Burger Boys against Warwick's Black Orchid gang, the same gang as faced off against the Ratskins earlier).

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
So, no news about which factions will have rules?

12 factions and one or more kill teams per faction.

Hmm, Shadow War Armageddon at $130 (CA$160) is a little steep. I was kind of hoping for sub $100.

Well we already know the first five; Orks, SM scouts, I.G, Skitarii and Genestealers.
We've also seen from various pictures kill team pages for; DE Wyches, Necrons, Chaos Space Marines and Tau pathfinders.
There was also a photo of Tau fire warriors. That makes 10 kill teams over 9 factions, matches the community page pretty closely.

There are also images of Black Templars fighting DE grotesques and a Talos.

Easy now.

Skitarii and Genestealer Cult are in this month's White Dwarf - and whilst I still need to check the article properly (I'm at work, it's at home) I suspect that means they're not included in the main box.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Easy now.

Skitarii and Genestealer Cult are in this month's White Dwarf - and whilst I still need to check the article properly (I'm at work, it's at home) I suspect that means they're not included in the main box.

From what we have heard the main box will only have rules for Guard, Orks, and SM Scouts. All other factions are supposed to be on the GW site Saturday as PDFs.

The only factions in the actual rulebook are Orks, I.G and Space Marines. The rest are free downloads.

Some more shots of the new table can be found here: https://warhammerworld.games-workshop.com/2017/03/28/new-diorama-ferro-giant-alphus/

Wow!

jeez...what a table.

Oddly enough....

I've been told by my sales rep that this is "while supplies last" and "a bridge until the next edition comes out". He's hopeful that if GW sees good sales from it, that they will offer more support.

I'm hoping they at least keep the main game in print for a good while, or put all the rules up for download and sell scenery seperately.

 mikhaila wrote:
Oddly enough....

I've been told by my sales rep that this is "while supplies last" and "a bridge until the next edition comes out". He's hopeful that if GW sees good sales from it, that they will offer more support.

I'm hoping they at least keep the main game in print for a good while, or put all the rules up for download and sell scenery seperately.

Awwhh. Well I'm getting it the day it comes out.

 mikhaila wrote:
Oddly enough....

I've been told by my sales rep that this is "while supplies last" and "a bridge until the next edition comes out". He's hopeful that if GW sees good sales from it, that they will offer more support.

I'm hoping they at least keep the main game in print for a good while, or put all the rules up for download and sell scenery seperately.

We already know the scenery is available separately. It's listed as separate items in this month's White Dwarf with prices. Surely your rep would have filled you in on that if he's giving information on the base game?

I think this game has the potential to really surprise GW. There's been such a void in their line up for this type of game for a long while now, and there's a very active community carrying on the Necromunda rules for 40k units, to which this gives an official stamp. I'm buying 2 boxes at launch, and that's barely going to get me started on the terrain. My only concern is them not doing a pdf for Inquistion forces, as that is at the core of the Inq28 community that's been carrying this torch for nearly a decade now.

The base box is blatantly a way to shift scenery and, given it's been released alongside separate £30-a-plastic-Pringles-tube's-worth kits, it doesn't surprise me that they'd hit and quit on the Shadow Wars box.

If its a one and done, why bother with store support and organized play?

On the other hand GW must realize this could eclipse Blood Bowl if done right, which I don't think they did.

 squall018 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Easy now.

Skitarii and Genestealer Cult are in this month's White Dwarf - and whilst I still need to check the article properly (I'm at work, it's at home) I suspect that means they're not included in the main box.

From what we have heard the main box will only have rules for Guard, Orks, and SM Scouts. All other factions are supposed to be on the GW site Saturday as PDFs.

This is also what I heard from my local store guy, as well. All, if you want in on this one, your best bet is to go in on the boxed set. You can pitch the Scouts and Orks on trade. That limited release thing was told to me, as well, and there wasn't much in terms of future in the conversation. If that means it is like the other one off games, like the ones GW keeps popping out- is my guess.

I'm in on a prepaid order, as well. I may still go for the two boxes, but I only have enough scratch this month for 1.


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Chairman Aeon wrote:
If its a one and done, why bother with store support and organized play?

On the other hand GW must realize this could eclipse Blood Bowl if done right, which I don't think they did.

It is a... introductory for something that they (GW) are coming up with pretty soonish. Not sure of the validity of it being related to new 40K news in it, but if I would hazard a guess, I think it has something to do with it.

Any knowledge or guesses if the rules will be released as ebooks/pdfs/whatevers? If this is limited release then the rules might end up quite expensive on ebay.

 Grot 6 wrote:

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Chairman Aeon wrote:
If its a one and done, why bother with store support and organized play?

On the other hand GW must realize this could eclipse Blood Bowl if done right, which I don't think they did.

It is a... introductory for something that they (GW) are coming up with pretty soonish. Not sure of the validity of it being related to new 40K news in it, but if I would hazard a guess, I think it has something to do with it.

So something like Silver Tower before Hammerfel then? Or do you believe it's going to be something bigger?

 JohnnyHell wrote:
The base box is blatantly a way to shift scenery and, given it's been released alongside separate £30-a-plastic-Pringles-tube's-worth kits, it doesn't surprise me that they'd hit and quit on the Shadow Wars box.

Maybe, but why bother with a standalone game and 120 page rulebook with support for a ton of factions if it's just to move the terrain? They could have included the Kill Team rules and saved a ton of time and money.

And frankly, if the game sells well they will support it despite if it isn't currently the plan. GW has shown with games like Bloodbowl they will crank out new content if the demand is there. We also know that they have been working on new Necromunda concept stuff since at least a year ago. Seems doubtful they would have the art director working on new concepts for a 20 year old game unless they were planning on a rerelease. This terrain just allows them to have a variety of stuff already on the market for a game that require mass amounts of terrain. It also gets more 40k player familiar with the system with stuff they already own in this release.

 Samsonov wrote:
Any knowledge or guesses if the rules will be released as ebooks/pdfs/whatevers? If this is limited release then the rules might end up quite expensive on ebay.

I think someone relaying info from Adepticon said no immediate plans for a digital rulebook.