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2021/02/11 12:31:48
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
H.B.M.C. wrote: So far the suggestions for a better Valkyrie have been:
1. Crusader.
2. Locust.
... neither of which are a Valkyrie.
So that kinda proves my point, right?
What's the problem with the Valkyrie, though? For a 30-tonner FS mech, it's not that bad... 5/8/5, nine points of armor short of full coverage, 12 shots for the LRM and a med laser just in case... I mean, yes, you could strip the eleventh HS, for example, and get more ammo and/or full armor, for example, but for what it is, the SucWars version doesn't really seem too bad. The Clan Invasion refit is basically exactly the same but with full armor and adding nonsense as na Artemis-IV for a LRM-10 and the MPL instead of two meds... but still, I wouldn't call it total garbage. The QD1 with a LRM-15 with Artemis and 16 shots should also work as a FS solution, even though it has a XL engine...
I mean, what are we expecting, here?
Not all light mechs are created equal
If i have to bring a 30 ton light mech i much prefer to bring an anubis 3t
ER large laser/X2 ER medium lasers, 1 ER small laser and an ECM
Yeah, but I'm in the UK and neither RPE or FantasyWelt.de stock it. I've asked around other stores and none seem keen to import any :-(
Plan B is to proxy with an Eldingar or similar hover vehicle.
Remember with ironwind they have HUNDREDS of battetech minis, many that have been moved to the "archive" online only made to order status page.
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2021/02/11 19:27:26
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
If i have to bring a 30 ton light mech i much prefer to bring an anubis 3t
ER large laser/X2 ER medium lasers, 1 ER small laser and an ECM
Or a slightly slower razorback 9t
ER PPC, X4 ER medium lasers.
MechCommander 2 fan?
aphyon wrote: Remember with ironwind they have HUNDREDS of battetech minis, many that have been moved to the "archive" online only made to order status page.
That's a good point.
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2021/02/11 20:07:07
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
H.B.M.C. wrote: So far the suggestions for a better Valkyrie have been:
1. Crusader.
2. Locust.
... neither of which are a Valkyrie.
So that kinda proves my point, right?
What's the problem with the Valkyrie, though? For a 30-tonner FS mech, it's not that bad... 5/8/5, nine points of armor short of full coverage, 12 shots for the LRM and a med laser just in case... I mean, yes, you could strip the eleventh HS, for example, and get more ammo and/or full armor, for example, but for what it is, the SucWars version doesn't really seem too bad. The Clan Invasion refit is basically exactly the same but with full armor and adding nonsense as na Artemis-IV for a LRM-10 and the MPL instead of two meds... but still, I wouldn't call it total garbage. The QD1 with a LRM-15 with Artemis and 16 shots should also work as a FS solution, even though it has a XL engine...
I mean, what are we expecting, here?
Not all light mechs are created equal
If i have to bring a 30 ton light mech i much prefer to bring an anubis 3t
ER large laser/X2 ER medium lasers, 1 ER small laser and an ECM
Or a slightly slower razorback 9t
ER PPC, X4 ER medium lasers.
No, they're not. Would the game be better if they were? For starters, the Valk is a fire support light, whereas the Anubis 3T is, funnily enough, a laserboat. Direct fire versus indirect fire support. It is also a fast mech, but with no jump capability, less armored and ports a very delicate XL IS engine. And well, in-setting it's many centuries more modern.
Razorback is once again a new tech laserboat from TRO 3067. I personally find that era's designs uninspired and samey, TBH.
I kinda fail to understand what would make these two comparable, to be honest. Wouldn't it have been better to compare the Valk with the regular Anubis, which ports 4 LRM/5s? Of course, it can only shot six times each, but it's much more comparable, filling the same niche and all.
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2021/02/12 07:44:52
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
Well i have never been a fan of putting ammo based weapons on light mechs aside from streaks and machineguns (piranha i love you) especially not small LRM salvos given how random the damage output is with LRMs.
So i would be hard pressed to give a comparison to the valkyrie to fill that role. close would be the arctic fox D but it lacks any backup weapons to make up for its large salvo size.
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2021/02/12 09:54:32
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
aphyon wrote: Well i have never been a fan of putting ammo based weapons on light mechs aside from streaks and machineguns (piranha i love you) especially not small LRM salvos given how random the damage output is with LRMs.
So i would be hard pressed to give a comparison to the valkyrie to fill that role. close would be the arctic fox D but it lacks any backup weapons to make up for its large salvo size.
That is of course another thing altogether ^^, but setting wise those are battlefield roles that are used, and mechs are designed for ir, so I was under the assumption that the idea was that the Valkyrie was a poor mech for that role.
2021/02/12 09:56:11
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
aphyon wrote: My favorite mix is 3 mech points, 1 protomech point and 1 point of (2)vehicles. i usually switch between my enyo stike tanks (best tracked clan tanks IMHO ), garuda helicopters, or my xerxes aerospace fighters.
Sorry for going back to an old post, but what models are you using for the Garuda?
2021/02/12 12:57:14
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
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2021/02/12 14:08:03
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
Is that the plastic variant by the spin-off company that they were discussing in the kickstarter updates a couple months back? Looks awesome, whens it go up for sale??
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2021/02/22 19:15:35
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
chaos0xomega wrote: Is that the plastic variant by the spin-off company that they were discussing in the kickstarter updates a couple months back? Looks awesome, whens it go up for sale??
Yes - Blaine Lee Pardoe & Brent Evans' company. The last update was 27th Jan:
A quick update from the brain-trust at Creative Juggernaut. We are working on getting the molds perfected for the limited run BattleMechs. Quality is key with us so we appreciate your patience.
I'm a little concerned that as they're a limited run and distributed by CGL they won't be widely available.
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2021/02/22 20:01:37
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
Yeah, I did some digging, they are "limited production" but not "limited edition" - i.e. they will keep producing the minis (and expand the product range) as long as people keep buying them, but each production run will be small so as to not produce more minis than there exists demand for them.
CoALabaer wrote: Wargamers hate two things: the state of the game and change.
2021/02/22 21:52:21
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
Really hope this is a new TRO and not a collection of bits from previous TROs or a rehash like the recent three (Succession Wars, Clan Invasion and Jihad).
Statistics and Record Sheets are included for 25 new IndustrialMech MODs, Security- and MilitiaMechs, support vehicles, and their variants ready for play.
... plus it coming out alongside an Era Digest make me think this is brand new material
Also, seems like this will be POD, so probably not aimed at the same market as the rehash TROs.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Really hope this is a new TRO and not a collection of bits from previous TROs or a rehash like the recent three (Succession Wars, Clan Invasion and Jihad).
It's a bit dated, but thank you so much for this recommendation. My mess of tanks and other vehicles arrived from Khurasan today. I ordered them on the 25th of February, so that was less than a week from purchase to delivery. I was delighted to discover that they are completely metal, and the perfect size. I highly recommend them.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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2021/03/03 02:38:48
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
Speaking of companies that make tiny miniatures, does anyone know if this place still takes orders? They make some interesting things, but their website makes me feel like they're a relic of the Geocities days.
I believe so, HBMC. DFA Wargaming mentions getting stuff from them in their vids and I think they pay for ad space on Sarna.net. Speaking of DFA Wargaming, there is another small company (with a very similar name) that you may want to check out, depending in what you are after (terrain right?):
Manchu wrote: Speaking of DFA Wargaming, there is another small company (with a very similar name) that you may want to check out, depending in what you are after (terrain right?):
the steel warriors stuff looks like a mix of in house and contract stuff. i see they are carrying nuclear shrimp as well as onslaught epic 40K minis
I don't use hex maps when i play battletech but some fo the buildings could work. currently i get most of my stuff from brigade miniatures.
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2021/03/03 09:31:10
Subject: Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
H.B.M.C. wrote: Speaking of companies that make tiny miniatures, does anyone know if this place still takes orders? They make some interesting things, but their website makes me feel like they're a relic of the Geocities days.
Yes - they've been advertising the new version of their Mech Hanger on Facebook recently.
2021/03/03 15:56:50
Subject: Re:Classic Battletech Is Awesome: the Thread!!!!!
aphyon wrote: currently i get most of my stuff from brigade miniatures.
If you mean, Brigade Models, this is the route I took as well. Got a big mess of their 10mm buildings because I also want to use them with Heavy Gear and my 10mm Horizon Wars project. And some 10mm plastic CAV terrain, which is super great stuff and very affordable.