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It was never great, from boring characters to fail Slambo cosplay.

But the art is good.

Chopstick wrote:
It was never great, from boring characters to fail Slambo cosplay.

But the art is good.

They looked okay to me, although pale in comparison to the much superior and Insta-buy Vampires. Slambo's cape hand is super unnecessary though, but I was willing to give it a pass. Until I noticed he was wearing two different boots
Bad Slambo, bad.

That vampire warband is one of the nicest kits gw released in a long time. Great models

I don't know, admittedly I'm a big fan of the resculpted Chaos Warriors, but I'm really looking forward to the new Chaos warband (though Slambo Jr. is going to be getting a different helmet head....no Top Knots on helmets for me).

I'm personally looking forward to them much more than the Vampires, despite the Vampires being more characterful and arguably better sculpts. To each their own I suppose.

That's not to say the Vampires aren't excellent and that I won't be getting them. Their gameplay mechanic sounds like a lot fun too.

As ever, the coolest thing about the Underworlds sets?

The price. Seriously. For GW, they’re actually bordering on cheap.

Assuming for the moment no price increase, is there anywhere else you can get four models of equivalent quality for the same price?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As ever, the coolest thing about the Underworlds sets?

The price. Seriously. For GW, they’re actually bordering on cheap.

Assuming for the moment no price increase, is there anywhere else you can get four models of equivalent quality for the same price?

Yeah, I'd agree. The prices for Underworlds bands are very reasonable, especially considering they also have all the cards and everything you need to play the band in one package. You certainly get more play out of single Warband for Underworlds than a single unit for 40k/AoS.

I will say I started playing Legion recently after getting out of 40k and AoS and it is absolutely baffling how much cheaper it is. I wish GW priced more of their products like Underworlds bands.

I like them for decently-priced and self-contained skirmish warbands, or at least most of the core of one. I have been using the rules from Brutality: Skirmish Wargame for my Warhammer skirmishing, and I'm definitely going to get the Vampire warband and add something like a giant wolf or a bat swarm and I'll have a complete "small but elite" warband. I was going to do something similar with the Chaos Undivided warband coming out (maybe with a couple of Ungors for ranged support), but I love the vamps so much more now that they have been shown.

They are still more per-model than a traditional unit box, but they benefit from having an entire box of completely uniquely-posed models. Even better with the ones which have been re-released in grey plastic without the cards for a lower price.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As ever, the coolest thing about the Underworlds sets?

The price. Seriously. For GW, they’re actually bordering on cheap.

Assuming for the moment no price increase, is there anywhere else you can get four models of equivalent quality for the same price?

How much are they ?

 AngryAngel80 wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
As ever, the coolest thing about the Underworlds sets?

The price. Seriously. For GW, they’re actually bordering on cheap.

Assuming for the moment no price increase, is there anywhere else you can get four models of equivalent quality for the same price?

How much are they ?

33 or 35 bucks (depending on the band) at full MSRP. Not bad considering how it's all unique miniatures and a complete faction for a game system.

I would do a Underworlds warband subscription for a slight rebate, not gonna lie. Make it 25% off and I'd sub my brother as well. Between us we're just missing The Eyes and the witch elves (I thought I'd get them for christmas).

That there are four Vamps surprised me, I'd have pegged them as super strong dude(tte)s and maybe some minions or alt-models for shapeshifting. Maybe one or two vamps. But I'll take four nice ones as well. Probably the "models then rules" philosophy strinking and giving us rather wimpy vamps in-game.

Well the underworld bands go up in price..

32.50

zamerion wrote:
Well the underworld bands go up in price..

32.50

Euros?

yes.

now they cost 28..very brusque rise

zamerion wrote:
yes.

now they cost 28..very brusque rise

Probably... £25 then?

I remember when they were £17.50 (well, it wasn’t that long ago!) I don’t think they’re a bad price still, but it stings a touch knowing what they did cost.

Yeah they’re £25 now


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It’s the third price rise in a shirt 2 season period.

Yeah £25 is still good value for what you get I suppose.
Vampire characters alone.
But it’s still a bit annoying.

(Also goes to show how overpriced the character models in AoS are. And 40k etc. But I guess we all know that in reality).

I think the difference between the Chaos Warrior team and the Vampires is that the Chaos Warrior team is a band of warriors being warriors, whilst the Vampire is a team of characters being individuals.


So you're comparing what are basically named troops - grunt infantry - to named characters.

Furthermore the Warrior set is basically the same armour and structure - they are warriors, they have a uniform; with a vampire team which has no strict uniform design between them.




It's also likely because we don't have any vampire units that any of the new vampires fit into, so they really stand out. IF GW had rank and file units of vampires with big maces and twin sword duellists etc... then they might not look as "unique" as they do now.



It's like the Slaanesh team has a unique gor, until the new gor set was revealed and now its one of the band.

Danny76 wrote:
Yeah they’re £25 now


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It’s the third price rise in a shirt 2 season period.

Yeah £25 is still good value for what you get I suppose.
Vampire characters alone.
But it’s still a bit annoying.

(Also goes to show how overpriced the character models in AoS are. And 40k etc. But I guess we all know that in reality).

Spesh as the Psychomancer is said to be £21 on his Todd.

Underworlds, Warcry and Killteam are all games GW is attempting to use for two purposes


1) To target board game customers outside of their normal remit. Underworld especially since it features pushfit models through the entire range in coloured plastic - perfectly ideal for book shops and toy shops to sell on to new customers.

2) To target those new to GW games who are perhaps younger or on budget and don't want to commit to the big costs of a "proper army" game. So they tempt them with a single purchase Killteam or Warband or such to get them into the game with one purchase.

Warcry and Killteam work great at this; one box gives you a functional force; two and you've got options. Three or four and suddenly not only have you a big diverse team but you are well on the way to 500 and 1000 point forces for the big games. You've built an army without realising



Those two markets should in theory, keep the prices on those from rising and rising. That said yes if the Underworld teams were priced as GW prices characters they'd be around £100 for a 5 man character team

Warband focus

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/01/26/khagras-ravagers-come-to-desecrate-direchasm-with-malicious-new-mechanic/

Some really interesting faction cards, and the Inspire condition is interesting. The fighters stats are fine, but doesn't give me the 'wow' factor which really draws me to a warband.

I do find it interesting that the wizards ranged spell attack action causes backlash if it is unsuccessful. That's a pretty big drawback.

Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

Sad to hear about the price increase. It does put a bit of a damper on my enthusiasm. But I guess it is still normal character price for 4 awesome vampires anyway. I really like how "warhammer" these guys look as I have said, GW have carved out a great aesthetic niche with their vampires that makes them obviously vampires without going the Hammer Horror route. A great evolution of the earlier, slightly cheesier, undead sculpts.

Pre-brexit price rises, post-brexit price rises, coming next: Aquarius in conjunction with Jupiter price rises.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

If you do, be aware that you will need a board. Part of how Underworlds is set up is that each of the players set the board halves up.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

Absolutely fantastic game. You'll want to get Direchasm as well, as that has the rules, tokens, boards, dice and a heap of extra universal cards for customizing your Objectives and Power Card decks (Unless you have a friend who already has those).

As a general rule of thumb if you like something for Underworlds you need to pick it up, it doesn't stick around forever. I guess because the cards/tokens/boards etc are printed overseas.

Billicus wrote:
As a general rule of thumb if you like something for Underworlds you need to pick it up, it doesn't stick around forever. I guess because the cards/tokens/boards etc are printed overseas.

Once the season rotates out, they stop manufacturing those kits with cards. You can always get the models still, but not the cards which go with them. I guess this helps new players getting into the game, and being stuck with a heap of universal cards they can't use in tournaments.

I wish they'd at least sell a card pack of each seasons faction specific cards once the season rotates out.

Kanluwen wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

If you do, be aware that you will need a board. Part of how Underworlds is set up is that each of the players set the board halves up.

jaredb wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

Absolutely fantastic game. You'll want to get Direchasm as well, as that has the rules, tokens, boards, dice and a heap of extra universal cards for customizing your Objectives and Power Card decks (Unless you have a friend who already has those).

Aye, I understand what is needed for the game, I've just been waiting for a warband that piques my interest enough to justify another game. Direchasm is a tougher sell as I think the Lumineth are a let down, but ultimately I need the boxset at some point.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Might pre-order the chaos warriors, they're not as cool as the vampires, but I've always liked chaos warriors and I have been wanting to jump into Underworlds for a while.

Man, I was thinking the exact same thing

I havent seen before, but the Community site has previewed ALL the cards in the warband box.

Having that information and allowing myself to become giddy with usng some of the generics in other warbands..

You can also MAYBE find older starter sets that have had the warbands looted thus leaving boards, and tokens and rules.. on the worlds largest garage (boot) sale.. Ebay