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I'm guessing an Engineering Skaven (We've had Normal, Ninja and Plague so far) versus New Style Stormcast starter set.

Just wish they'd start breaking up those 2 player sets again. Been waiting ages for the trio of Stormcast Wizards (Who probably won't get a release now they've nuked that part of the range), and that trio of Slannashi demons.

 aku-chan wrote:
I'm guessing an Engineering Skaven (We've had Normal, Ninja and Plague so far) versus New Style Stormcast starter set.

Just wish they'd start breaking up those 2 player sets again. Been waiting ages for the trio of Stormcast Wizards (Who probably won't get a release now they've nuked that part of the range), and that trio of Slannashi demons.

Stormcast wizards are confirmed to be getting an individual release with the new battletome.
I think the rumoured mini doomwheel will be in the Skaven warband.

 aku-chan wrote:
I'm guessing an Engineering Skaven (We've had Normal, Ninja and Plague so far) versus New Style Stormcast starter set.

Just wish they'd start breaking up those 2 player sets again. Been waiting ages for the trio of Stormcast Wizards (Who probably won't get a release now they've nuked that part of the range), and that trio of Slannashi demons.

Did Ephilim's Pandaemonium ever see a standalone release?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 aku-chan wrote:
I'm guessing an Engineering Skaven (We've had Normal, Ninja and Plague so far) versus New Style Stormcast starter set.

Just wish they'd start breaking up those 2 player sets again. Been waiting ages for the trio of Stormcast Wizards (Who probably won't get a release now they've nuked that part of the range), and that trio of Slannashi demons.

Did Ephilim's Pandaemonium ever see a standalone release?

No. Neither did the Deepkin. I hope both of those get a separate release soon.

Gotta say - love the rat-bomb.

Rat-bomb, rat-bomb, you're my rat-bomb.

Embergard new edition

I'm very interested to see how the new game plays. I didn't have much of an issue with it previously, but I know a number of people who felt overwhelmed by everything we needed to track.

I am as well. I didn't get into it before as i wasn't interested in a deck builder. But we'll see what goes on with this version and how they handle all the previous bands.

Love the Skaven but the Stormcast are a bit boring and samey.

Looks like this is going to be yet another one on the pile of starter sets I'm waiting for them to sell separately.

I actually really like the SCE in this one, especially daggers to the right. Also a not so hidden preview of what the Vanguard Chamber is going to get update to.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I am as well. I didn't get into it before as i wasn't interested in a deck builder. But we'll see what goes on with this version and how they handle all the previous bands.

For the last two years you were quite readily able to play Underworlds without any deck-building. It was one of the two main ways to play the game. Most Warhammer Worlds events were this format (i.e. Relic).

Chikout wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 aku-chan wrote:
I'm guessing an Engineering Skaven (We've had Normal, Ninja and Plague so far) versus New Style Stormcast starter set.

Just wish they'd start breaking up those 2 player sets again. Been waiting ages for the trio of Stormcast Wizards (Who probably won't get a release now they've nuked that part of the range), and that trio of Slannashi demons.

Did Ephilim's Pandaemonium ever see a standalone release?

No. Neither did the Deepkin. I hope both of those get a separate release soon.

It’s been 2 years and still no Sons of Velmorn

Hmmmm, mixed feelings on my end. I like they are removing some of the "feels-bad" rules like crits being a sort of all or nothing rule, but I really dislike that they're changing the card art to just pictures of the models and that unique faction cards don't seem to be a thing anymore in the new edition. Likewise with it being one game board, it seems to imply its going to be more of a Warcry lite. I know some warbands have already been rotated out, but it seems like quite a few won't make the cut for the new edition.

Article is up now:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/j5tbfn9d/warhammer-day-preview-new-edition-of-warhammer-underworlds-brings-the-battle-to-embergard/

Bit bland but the at least its a more familar dungeon setting. The natural environments were starting to get samey.

An overhaul is welcome.

This would cover the missing Mini doom wheel from the skaven rumors, right?

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
This would cover the missing Mini doom wheel from the skaven rumors, right?

One would have to assume so. Although I'd be happy to see it transition into a full unit. Mini hamster wheel is cool.

Whilst an overhaul is needed there are several things that would gel for me as someone who has every release except for dice and card sleeves.

Also as a player who has been ready to stop collecting for a couple years due to it essentially being a dead game locally (More people play Star Wars armada on a weekly basis than there have been players at my FLGS in the last 2 years).

1: An appropriately priced box of cards for every warband released so far. I know they will be online but decent cards over print outs would be appreciated.

2: Reduce the price as an entry game?
I am the only player I know of in a town of 150,000. There are others with sets and warbands but there has been zero organised play for almost 3 years. If I want a tournament I have to drive 150km to my local 1.5 million population town to get one.

I'm not sure what else I want or need.
I love the models.
The game play is good.
Games are very quick and very variable.
No one wants to play it....

The new box seems like it has exactly the same contents as Wintermaw (not counting the 2 Warband Warscroll Cards) so it should not be more expensive but knowing GW it will be.
They say we will no longer get Warband decks. That means probably the Warband boxes will just have the miniatures. It's a chance to lower the prices but again knowing GW they will just keep the same prices for less product.

They also say that all the previous decks and boards are not compatible with the new edition but the miniatures will be. And we will get free rules for most of them
We will be able to buy 16 old warbands, 2 new in the core box and 2 new separately with the release on the new edition.
Also no new starter every six months, which is good but that means if you want to play the game you have to buy Embergard.

In terms of gameplay they say the rules are streamlined and it will have the underdog mechanic.
The worst part is that they replaced the art on the cards with photos...
At least the models are still really good.

I’m tempted to get playing Underworlds with this.

I’m almost certainly getting the box, as I want those Skaven. That we’re also seeing a game reset means , unlike its previous editions, I don’t think I’ll end up feeling disadvantaged by not being able to get older cards.

Hmm.

Yeah I'm also tempted to give Underworlds a try with the new edition, it seems like they are reducing/eliminating the "chase" aspect of it with regards to chasing cards and deck building, etc?

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah I'm also tempted to give Underworlds a try with the new edition, it seems like they are reducing/eliminating the "chase" aspect of it with regards to chasing cards and deck building, etc?

GW eliminated the “chase” aspect 2 years ago. I hope you like the new edition. Gameplay is solid, but it will be significantly blander (in terms of faction flavor reflected by the rules) than it used to be… which is why I’m very likely out (despite owning everything and playing since Shadespire).

Wait, are we not getting the usual two standalone warband releases to go with Wintermaw? Or did I miss them?

The models are good but i hate how they cheapened out on the card art. It was one of the things that i loved about Underworlds. GW you made 200mil in profit last year get some damn artists ffs.

I'm not sure it is cheaping out on the card art. It's a definite accessibility upgrade to have images of the mini rather than artwork, especially for a game designed to be more broadly accessible, and to encourage people to buy and play multiple teams.

Yeah you can learn which mini goes with which card fairly quickly, especially if you're already familiar with the faction and units. But if you're just dipping into a faction for the first time, just to play the Underworlds warband, it could get quite confusing, at least with the larger warbands.

I don't really mind it on the character cards, but hopefully they keep the art and flavour text on the actual game-play cards.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I don't really mind it on the character cards, but hopefully they keep the art and flavour text on the actual game-play cards.

Sorry to tell you this but we already saw some gameplay cards and they look like this:



So while there is still a line of flavor text, the images are all of models and no longer artwork

Cards remind me of the old Citadel Combat Cards.

Interesting. I mean that has to be an aesthetic choice, and a weird one at that. Because for those cards, they could have just re-used existing artwork from the previous edition.