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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 14:43:15
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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I think a lot of people are misinterpreting what these warbands are when they ask for WHQ or tabletop rules. These aren't hero characters. They're named versions of low-teir battleline units. Garek's Reavers are Blood Reavers. Steelheart's Champions are Liberators. The Sepulchral Guard are basic Skeleton Warriors. Ironskull's Boyz are 'Ardboys. They already have tabletop rules. You'll find their warscrolls under those respective units on the web store. They are, however, really nice alternate sculpts for those units.
There are rumors that the Fyreslayer and Skaven warbands will be hero and some basic units, but until we can confirm that, I would assume they are Vulkite Berzerkers and Clanrats respectively.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 18:10:03
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Dakka Veteran
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What I think would be nice are single character releases with a couple new cards. Unsure if its already been mentioned so sorry in advance.
Using the Sigmar unit as an example
You only use 3 people, no need to fiddle with game balance of adding more models to the unit, but what if you could go buy a clam pack of one dude and it came with 3-4 unique cards to represent him that you could add to the deck?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 18:41:20
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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It'll be interesting to see how the warbands are expanded if they are expanded. The balancing will have to be done delicately.
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2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 18:49:25
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Mighty Vampire Count
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EnTyme wrote:I think a lot of people are misinterpreting what these warbands are when they ask for WHQ or tabletop rules. These aren't hero characters. They're named versions of low-teir battleline units. Garek's Reavers are Blood Reavers. Steelheart's Champions are Liberators. The Sepulchral Guard are basic Skeleton Warriors. Ironskull's Boyz are 'Ardboys. They already have tabletop rules. You'll find their warscrolls under those respective units on the web store. They are, however, really nice alternate sculpts for those units.
There are rumors that the Fyreslayer and Skaven warbands will be hero and some basic units, but until we can confirm that, I would assume they are Vulkite Berzerkers and Clanrats respectively.
Not all of them - lets look at the Undead leader:
The Sepulchral Warden was once the Lord Marshal of Shadespire, but in undeath he leads Sepulchral Guard to defend the city. He has been gifted with strange necromantic powers by Nagash, causing his followers to be inspired with frenzied devotion. He is the greatest amongst the faithful that petition the Great Necromancer for freedom, and will slay all who would challenge the will of the God of Death
Sounds like a Bonerattle Hero or better to me? Be nice to have some for more neglected factions.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 20:20:30
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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EnTyme wrote:There are rumors that the Fyreslayer and Skaven warbands will be hero and some basic units, but until we can confirm that, I would assume they are Vulkite Berzerkers and Clanrats respectively.
Clanrats aren't the most durable models available so I don't know how they'd stand up to Black Orcs (er, Ironjawz) without a hero to buff them. Hopefully they'll use Plague Monks or Stormvermin given how few models are on the board and how few activations are available.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 20:27:40
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Blood Reavers are also extremely squishy. They initially had no save, but were given a 6+ in Blades of Khorne, and they don't have an option for shields. I'm honestly just speculating, but my point is I don't expect any models in Shadespire that would be used as heroes in AoS. Even with the Sepulchral Warden's backstory, he's a lot closer to a Skeleton Champion than he is a Wight King.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 20:32:28
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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EnTyme wrote:I think a lot of people are misinterpreting what these warbands are when they ask for WHQ or tabletop rules. These aren't hero characters. They're named versions of low-teir battleline units. Garek's Reavers are Blood Reavers. Steelheart's Champions are Liberators. The Sepulchral Guard are basic Skeleton Warriors. Ironskull's Boyz are 'Ardboys. They already have tabletop rules. You'll find their warscrolls under those respective units on the web store. They are, however, really nice alternate sculpts for those units.
There are rumors that the Fyreslayer and Skaven warbands will be hero and some basic units, but until we can confirm that, I would assume they are Vulkite Berzerkers and Clanrats respectively.
GW confirmed that all the Shadespire sculpts will have single-hero warscrols for Age of Sigmar.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 20:38:02
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks to the US postal system I got mine early. I must say the snap fit is great.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 20:44:49
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Galas wrote:
GW confirmed that all the Shadespire sculpts will have single-hero warscrols for Age of Sigmar.
Must have missed that announcement. Do you have a link?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 21:05:20
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Ok, now I'm looking for that confirmation but I can't encounter it. They just say over and over that you can use the Shadespire miniatures in your games of AoS but don't talk about custom "hero like" Warscrols.
So I'll backtrack about that, until I can encounter (If it existed and wasn't a mental construct of my mind) the piece that explicitly said what I have said.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/18 21:09:48
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Galas wrote:Ok, now I'm looking for that confirmation but I can't encounter it. They just say over and over that you can use the Shadespire miniatures in your games of AoS but don't talk about custom "hero like" Warscrols.
So I'll backtrack about that, until I can encounter (If it existed and wasn't a mental construct of my mind) the piece that explicitly said what I have said.
Not doubting what you said, but I went to the trouble of cooking this crow. Want to be sure before I go ahead and eat it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 00:11:14
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Plastictrees
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Warmachine style 'character squad' style warscrolls would be pretty neat. Unlikely but neat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 00:46:31
Subject: Re:Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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piperider361 wrote:I'm looking to get into this, but only want the pick up the Orc, Skaven, and Undead warbands for now...neither of the ones in the starter box. Is it still worth picking up the core set if that's the case?
Yeah. You can gift the models you do not want to friends to get them into the game
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 03:52:24
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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plastictrees wrote:Warmachine style 'character squad' style warscrolls would be pretty neat. Unlikely but neat.
That would be amazing, unfortunately unlikely like you said :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 03:58:49
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Gun Mage
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The Shadespire product page has links to the normal Liberators and Blood Reavers scrolls. I think that might be it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 04:52:45
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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TheWaspinator wrote:The Shadespire product page has links to the normal Liberators and Blood Reavers scrolls. I think that might be it.
It’s not it, the WarCom site said this on Saturday: ‘What’s more, all the warbands in Shadespire will be receiving Warscrolls for Age of Sigmar, meaning if you grow particularly fond of them during your adventures in the City of Mirrors, you’ll be able to take them to your larger games. The first two will be available next week.’
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 08:13:13
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Breotan wrote: EnTyme wrote:There are rumors that the Fyreslayer and Skaven warbands will be hero and some basic units, but until we can confirm that, I would assume they are Vulkite Berzerkers and Clanrats respectively.
Clanrats aren't the most durable models available so I don't know how they'd stand up to Black Orcs (er, Ironjawz) without a hero to buff them. Hopefully they'll use Plague Monks or Stormvermin given how few models are on the board and how few activations are available.
I would have thought Eshin but that might be too hopeful.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 08:31:41
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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ImAGeek wrote: TheWaspinator wrote:The Shadespire product page has links to the normal Liberators and Blood Reavers scrolls. I think that might be it.
It’s not it, the WarCom site said this on Saturday: ‘What’s more, all the warbands in Shadespire will be receiving Warscrolls for Age of Sigmar, meaning if you grow particularly fond of them during your adventures in the City of Mirrors, you’ll be able to take them to your larger games. The first two will be available next week.’
Also at Nova :
Also confirmed at NOVA was that all of these new Shadespire warbands, Orruks included, will eventually get full Warhammer Age of Sigmar Warscrolls (once they escape from the City of Mirrors, of course).
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/08/31/breaking-news-studio-preview-from-the-nova-open/
And I'm guessing it was in a video where they said all of them would be heroes? Because I clearly remember that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 08:56:14
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Them being seperate heroes would make me sad, since I would rather be able to mix a few of the female Stormcast and Grandhammer guys into my Liberators, rather than them having their own rules.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 09:24:16
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crazyterran wrote:Them being seperate heroes would make me sad, since I would rather be able to mix a few of the female Stormcast and Grandhammer guys into my Liberators, rather than them having their own rules.
Uuhhh, you still can, you just have to say they are Liberators / unit. I wantED to do that with the Ironjawz, a new squad of Brutes, oh I was so excited... but it seems they are 'ardboys
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 14:06:48
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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I doubt they will be individual heroes. The first TWO warscrolls will be available next week. Probably one for each of the starter set warbands. So each will be a unit in AOS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 14:28:53
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I think I'm gonna sit back and wait for opinions of those that didnt get sent a free copy of this game before investing into this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 14:31:56
Subject: Re:Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Just repackaged - with the possibility, going on other reboxings, of coming in 20's rather than 10's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 14:35:11
Subject: Re:Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Experienced Maneater
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Just repackaged - with the possibility, going on other reboxings, of coming in 20's rather than 10's.
Skeletons already have been reboxed for AoS. Is this another rebox or did you miss the last one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 14:39:29
Subject: Re:Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
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Hanskrampf wrote: Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Just repackaged - with the possibility, going on other reboxings, of coming in 20's rather than 10's.
Skeletons already have been reboxed for AoS. Is this another rebox or did you miss the last one?
The comment he replied to was from April 13th, 2017... I don't know why he replied to it, to be honest. I'm really hoping to see a 20 box though. 10 per is silly. I'm kinda/sorta holding out hope the reason we didn't get a 20 box to begin with is that they were starting work on another 5 model sprue that included Skeletal Bowmen so the 20 box is able to build 10 Skeletal Bowmen and 10 Skeletal Warriors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 18:24:56
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Ship's Officer
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Any indications as to whether this is selling well or not? I don't have an LGS so I can't say if there is potential for this game for me locally. But I hope pre order volumes and such are looking good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 18:56:15
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Dakka Veteran
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Thargrim wrote:Any indications as to whether this is selling well or not? I don't have an LGS so I can't say if there is potential for this game for me locally. But I hope pre order volumes and such are looking good.
Since it isn't officially released until Saturday, I'd say there's no real indication yet. I have no idea on pre-order numbers, though; maybe some LGSes have been doing that. There certainly seems to be decent hype about it in various YouTube review channels, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 19:50:06
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 19:57:01
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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So prices are confirmed at 30 USD for the expansions then. That seems pretty fair to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/19 19:59:08
Subject: Warhammer Underworlds - Shadespire. Deathrattle Sepulchural Guard
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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So $120 before discount to have everything they've already announced. Not to shabby at all.
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