Warhammer 40,000 new edition announced & new site ; UPDATE 28/04 Psychic Phase

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**GodDamUser**

Is it just me or has there been a fair amount of reshuffling with this new map?

Baal seems to have moved North, Eye of Terra use to be more to the West.. Tau moved South East..

**davou**

Quickjager wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
Looks like Chaos canonically won the Jericho Reach. It's the sector of space located by the Hadex Anomaly.

Is it just me or did the Tau Empire grow a lot? Usually it's depicted as a dot and not with a defined territorial area. Or they could just be defining its borders better and its the same size.

I wouldn't count Jericho out yet, it's GW afterall, moving it a few hundred billion lightyears to the south isn't above them, especially seeing as this map IS different in scale and placement of other planets.

a hundred billion light years is a bit too far

It is estimated that the diameter of the observable universe is about 28.5 gigaparsecs (93 billion light-years, 8.8×1023 kilometres or 5.5×1023 miles), putting the edge of the observable universe at about 46.5 billion light-years away.

**Gamgee**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
Looks like Chaos canonically won the Jericho Reach. It's the sector of space located by the Hadex Anomaly.

Is it just me or did the Tau Empire grow a lot? Usually it's depicted as a dot and not with a defined territorial area. Or they could just be defining its borders better and its the same size.

It's still quite small, the hexagon that defines the Empire is smaller than the entirety of the Ultramarines' domain.

Also surrounded by Necrons on one side and by a giant Warp Rift on another... things aren't looking too crash hot for the Tau.
They might actually have to fight for real now.

It is still small, but far bigger looking than it used to look. Back in the day it used to be so small most maps would zoom in and show a little sub map just to show how small they were. Now they get an actual spot on the main map. Neat. Also the latest lore from the GS books (forget which one probably 3) is that the Tau and IoM near the damocles were being attacked by weird warp worms and an entire Tau fleet vanished and/or destroyed.

Could we be seeing a chaos Tau release? Could be interesting.

I and many others have suspected for awhile now the only candidates for a grand alliance with Tau are Tau-crons. The Eldar didn't want the Tau's help for being too young, and they never even considered Necrons. So unless a new Ork Freeboss gets real chummy with the Tau the only GA I could see would be Tau-Cron. Perhaps Tau was supposed to be swallowed but the Necrons have made pylons to save them? It's an interesting development at any rate.

**ZebioLizard2**

Gamgee wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Gamgee wrote:
Looks like Chaos canonically won the Jericho Reach. It's the sector of space located by the Hadex Anomaly.

Is it just me or did the Tau Empire grow a lot? Usually it's depicted as a dot and not with a defined territorial area. Or they could just be defining its borders better and its the same size.

It's still quite small, the hexagon that defines the Empire is smaller than the entirety of the Ultramarines' domain.

Also surrounded by Necrons on one side and by a giant Warp Rift on another... things aren't looking too crash hot for the Tau.
They might actually have to fight for real now.

It is still small, but far bigger looking than it used to look. Back in the day it used to be so small most maps would zoom in and show a little sub map just to show how small they were. Now they get an actual spot on the main map. Neat. Also the latest lore from the GS books (forget which one probably 3) is that the Tau and IoM near the damocles were being attacked by weird warp worms and an entire Tau fleet vanished and/or destroyed.

Could we be seeing a chaos Tau release? Could be interesting.

I and many others have suspected for awhile now the only candidates for a grand alliance with Tau are Tau-crons. The Eldar didn't want the Tau's help for being too young, and they never even considered Necrons. So unless a new Ork Freeboss gets real chummy with the Tau the only GA I could see would be Tau-Cron. Perhaps Tau was supposed to be swallowed but the Necrons have made pylons to save them? It's an interesting development at any rate.

Chaos welcomes it's new mutated brethren!

**GodDamUser**

Gamgee wrote:
The Eldar didn't want the Tau's help for being too young, and they never even considered Necrons.

The Eldar would never think of allying up with the Crons.. too many old wounds there

**Gamgee**

Actually I seen someone on ATT make a custom feral "Moant'au" model and it looked pretty sweet. If they made one and depending on how they looked I might get some to pit against my FSE army.

Edit
I know they wouldn't, but when it comes to saving the galaxy you would have thought chaos was the bigger threat, but they thought releasing a god of death was a good idea. So you know. Eldar science and thought died a long time ago.

**yellowfever**

I've only read the last 3 pages and this has got to contain the most rude comments I've seen in awhile. Even maybe beating the US politics thread(which must have set a record for being closed). People in here seem to be very pissy about this topic.

**H.B.M.C.**

Hey look, the Calixis Sector is there!

**GodDamUser**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hey look, the Calixis Sector is there!

I did see that.. I didn't remember it being described at to the West though..

**Youn**

Very very interesting......

Edited: as image link was dead.

**angel of death 007**

Formosa wrote:
Minijack wrote:
Formosa wrote:
Loremaster Of Awesomeness wrote:
'Are you getting rid of points?
Not at all. There will be a full points system, for use in matched play – one of three ways to play covered in the rulebook.'

So, it's definately going down the Sigmar route? Ok then

which isnt a bad thing.

At the moment we have

A: Unbound, which is basically open play with points

B: Campaigns, which is campaign play with points

C: points play, which is non points play with points.

SO whats actually changing there, not much yet, we shall have to see.

Except that the old codex`s are no longer compatible with the new rules.

Utterly irrelevant, i still own the old books and have pdfs etc. if/when this new ED sucks, i will carry on regardless.

Look people, dont fall into the hyperbole and overreact, the same happens every ED, if you dont like it, dont play it and carry on with the current ED.

Current edition 6.5 sucked that is why it got flushed, what they should have done after the massive failure that was 6th edition in the first place. Glad to see GW is getting away from book club of the month and going toward actual models. Every one else posts free rules and no codexes glad GW could catch up. And they finally realized after how many years that people like to go to competitions and more balanced ones at that. Hopefully we can see an edition that mirrors closer to 5th which IMHO was the best edition to play both in pick up games and tournaments.

**Frozen Ocean**

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
Thebiggesthat wrote:
As someone with a physics degree, masters ongoing, a job based on software test and statistical analysis, please take that chip on your shoulder Whirlwind and insert it somewhere painful. It's absolutely nothing to do with intelligence and background. Although I'm glad it doesn't appeal to you, as you seem like a conceited ass and I can imagine nothing worse than bumping into you in a tournament.

Wow, I hope the air is breathable up there.... in fact YOU sound like the kind of person I would never want to run into anywhere. When you meet a stranger do you tell him all this stuff also? Do you start off your conversation with where you went to school and what degrees you have? Do you point out all the madeupism's also in all science fiction that just couldn't exist in 'Real Physics and Science'?

You should read the post that Thebiggesthat is replying to. Specifically this rather hilarious tidbit (about how people who think AoS isn't tactical are just educated wrong):

Whirlwind wrote:
The problem is that it's relative based on the user which is dependent on background, education levels, what the individual skills are and so on. Therefore you are never going to get a straight answer on this one. Depending on how an individuals brain works something that might be tactical to one person is hell for another. What might be tactical for one person might be completely obvious to another. This is probably where the differences lie. A brain wired to understand statistics might not really see the challenge in AoS because for that person they see the synergies easily, hence more complex linking rules will interest that brain more because the statistical permutations are much greater. On the other hand a brain that sees distances easily might not find a game based on this type of strategy interesting because to that person it is obvious, hence it will be more interesting to have games based on numbers (and hence dice rolling) because it is less obvious and challenges them intellectually more.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Gamgee wrote:
I know they wouldn't, but when it comes to saving the galaxy you would have thought chaos was the bigger threat, but they thought releasing a god of death was a good idea. So you know. Eldar science and thought died a long time ago.

The Eldar were also specifically created by the Old Ones to help fight and defeat the Necrons during the War in Heaven... sure most Craftworlds and the Dark Eldar don't give a toss about actually seeking them out but old wounds cut deep.

**GodDamUser**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The Eldar were also specifically created by the Old Ones to help fight and defeat the Necrons during the War in Heaven... sure most Craftworlds and the Dark Eldar don't give a toss about actually seeking them out but old wounds cut deep.

The Eldar were uplifted not created..

Orks were created

**davou**

Youn wrote:
Very very interesting......

Spoiler:

whatever you tried to link is dead

**Youn**

Are these dataslates to a special game?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/StormcloudAttack/40k-rules-stormhawk-interceptor-en.pdf

**Matt.Kingsley**

GodDamUser wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
The Eldar were also specifically created by the Old Ones to help fight and defeat the Necrons during the War in Heaven... sure most Craftworlds and the Dark Eldar don't give a toss about actually seeking them out but old wounds cut deep.

The Eldar were uplifted not created..

Orks were created

The background clearly states that the Eldar were one of the Warrior-Races created.
Furthermore in the Oldcron fluff (since the Newcron fluff doesn't mention it or the Orks at all when it talks about the Warrior-Races) what could be the Ork's evolutionary ancestor race - the 'Krork' - was created. It never specifically mention the Orks being created by the Old Ones for the War in Heaven (though Krork could just be what the Old One's originally called them).

**ncshooter426**

Youn wrote:
Are these dataslates to a special game?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/StormcloudAttack/40k-rules-stormhawk-interceptor-en.pdf

Yes, air battle game

**Ghaz**

Youn wrote:
Are these dataslates to a special game?

https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/StormcloudAttack/40k-rules-stormhawk-interceptor-en.pdf

**H.B.M.C.**

GodDamUser wrote:
I did see that.. I didn't remember it being described at to the West though..

Far west. Otherside of the Scarus Sector. The Koronus Expanse leads into the Halo Stars.

**GodDamUser**

I also do love that Angelis is still on the map =D

**LightKing**

a split empire?

isn't that similar to what the nova-terra interregnum was?

**Azreal13**

No.

A civil war in no way resembles a literal physical divide in two.

**Lobokai**

Notice that there is an "East" and "West" passage to cross between the north and the south... but you that will be our new Cadian gates... bloody warzones... one for Terra to keep open and the other for Macragge,

Edit: Dang Az, I'm sure I've said it before, but we joined on the same day... huh. Sry, moving along...

**lord_blackfang**

GodDamUser wrote:
I also do love that Angelis is still on the map =D

Shadow War: Gorkamorka confirmed!

**GodDamUser**

lord_blackfang wrote:

Shadow War: Gorkamorka confirmed!

Would make me so happy

**Torga_DW**

So, a new edition of 40k and a significant revamp of the rules at that. Interesting. If they finally manage to create a passable set of rules (and that's a big if given their track record of doing things) i'd certainly look at coming back again.

But as always, gw likes to put barriers up and the notable one now is these new marines - no point collecting anything ba related until i find out how this plays out.

I'd certainly like to start playing 40k again, will be watching to see how this turns out. Cautiously pessimistic, but would like to be wrong here.

**cuda1179**

Man, the tau really do have it rough. Ultramar on their doorstep, bordering a Necron dynasty, Orks on the loose, Tryanids creeping in, warp storm near them. Man, they are boxed in on all sides. Also, they are near the edge of the galaxy, so unless they want to go intergalactic they really don't have anywhere to go but through the crap.

**xttz**

cuda1179 wrote:
Man, the tau really do have it rough. Ultramar on their doorstep, bordering a Necron dynasty, Orks on the loose, Tryanids creeping in, warp storm near them. Man, they are boxed in on all sides.

Nice. Death to animes.

**Not-not-kenny**

Now I remember what the map reminds me of! In an episode of Star Trek: the animated series they go to a parallel universe where time goes backwards and space is white and the stars are black.