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Assuming the Mk XXXXXX designation of the White Dwarf's armour is punning, it does add fuel to the 'Mk X' designation fire for this new suit.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
H.B.M.C. wrote: Not really. Mk. XXXXXX is a take on the fact that Bugman's Brew is often referred to as Bugman's XXXXXX.
Don't read anything more into it than that.
And what about the fact that SadPanda chipped in a while back with the whole "mk X sounds like a good name" bit when the nee armor was first being discussed?
Bugman's XXXXXX has always been a thing, but the Warhammer community team has been known to be cheeky in the past. This could be an off hand reference.
Warhams-77 wrote: An overview of rumors regarding the new Marines with the important bits from the last months - in order of appearance
Spoiler:
4chan
Hastings - Disqus
Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.
…I’m not suggesting anything gets squatted. I said clearly focus will be on new marines rather than existing chapters, but existing chapters will still get releases.
I don’t get it, people are happy they’re moving the story/timeline on but don’t want anything to change, they want just their chapter to get new toys yet complain SM have too much, 40k players should think themselves lucky that they didn’t get the same treatment that WFB fans did with the destruction of the setting and large parts of models/armies. What’s the point of the hobby for Bret or tomb kings players?
I see new marines as a chance to have the best of both worlds, SM originals don’t get endless variants and units but are still in the fight, new marines are like a new army to build up from scratch pretty much, I’m sure they’d happily ally so don’t really see what the problem is.
…The answer to that is simply I don’t know. I was told they new marines are different to current marines, [...]
I really doubt the iconic space marine kit will be retired so I wouldn’t worry too much about them becoming outdated. I guess fluffwise it would be no different than older armour classes still being around in 40k, sure the new marines would be out there, but a lot of existing marines are still out there too.”
Sad Panda - DakkaDakka
H.B.M.C. wrote:
What will they be called though?
Mk. X sounds nice.
Warhammer 40,000 website
Could one of the mods add this to the first post?
Thanks dude. And to everyone else who found the jump pack pictures.
Mods, admins or whoever. Can we make Warhams a mod or something, he's always so good at keeping rumour threads up to date and editing the first post for those not able to keep up to date themselves.
Thanks for the kind words, General Kroll, but I'm already mod at a german forum and Dakka has a good and large mod team while the other is limited to a few active folks. Not sure if I could actually help in both due to time constraints.
I hope a mod will add the quotes to the op later ( please). It is still morning hours in the US if I'm not mistaken
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Warhams-77 wrote: Thanks for the kind words, General Kroll, but I'm already mod at a german forum and Dakka has a good and large mod team while the other is limited to a few active folks. Not sure if I could actually help in both due to time constraints.
It does get busy here at times.
You wouldn't believe the requests we get to add stuff into a first post, for example...
Neronoxx wrote: And what about the fact that SadPanda chipped in a while back with the whole "mk X sounds like a good name" bit when the nee armor was first being discussed?
Which has all of nothing to do with this miniature. The NuMarines might be Mk.X. Who cares? This is Mk.XXXXXX because it's a Bugman's joke. Nothing more.
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Dunno if someone has said it already, but my guess is that this is from the Space Marine half of the new starter set. Since those two marines have the exact same pose, I'm thinking they are push fit and duplicate sprues.
So I'm guessing we have these "Nu-Marines" on one side, against Death Guard on the other.
Neronoxx wrote: And what about the fact that SadPanda chipped in a while back with the whole "mk X sounds like a good name" bit when the nee armor was first being discussed?
Which has all of nothing to do with this miniature. The NuMarines might be Mk.X. Who cares? This is Mk.XXXXXX because it's a Bugman's joke. Nothing more.
Or it might do. And they might be. And people do care, clearly, in the thread for talking about the NuMArines. I get it's a Bugman's joke but it could be a double whammy. Unless you know otherwise, categorically, and aren't just speculating like everyone else? Who knows. There's no harm in making the connection, if intended or not.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Warhams-77 wrote:Thanks for the kind words, General Kroll, but I'm already mod at a german forum and Dakka has a good and large mod team while the other is limited to a few active folks. Not sure if I could actually help in both due to time constraints.
I hope a mod will add the quotes to the op later ( please). It is still morning hours in the US if I'm not mistaken
No worries, I'm a mod on another site too, it can get a bit consuming doesn't it. Thanks for all your efforts here though.
Alpharius wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote: Thanks for the kind words, General Kroll, but I'm already mod at a german forum and Dakka has a good and large mod team while the other is limited to a few active folks. Not sure if I could actually help in both due to time constraints.
It does get busy here at times.
You wouldn't believe the requests we get to add stuff into a first post, for example...
I hope a mod will add the quotes to the op later ( please). It is still morning hours in the US if I'm not mistaken
Done!
Thanks
Nurglitch wrote:They don't look bigger...
They look about the same size as regular Deathwatch dudes. I agree with the poster above, I think they are from the new starter, the assault marine variant too. If they are I'd be happy to start a small ultramarine force with them.
Some people say the 8th ed box will be "Nu-marines" vs death guard.
If this is so, how to explain the official Death Guard does not seem to have "Nu" proportions ? To me Death Guard seems the standard heroic scale, don t they ?
reluxor wrote: Some people say the 8th ed box will be "Nu-marines" vs death guard.
If this is so, how to explain the official Death Guard does not seem to have "Nu" proportions ? To me Death Guard seems the standard heroic scale, don t they ?
Makes me think even more that the new marines are not just upscaled, but are a whole new breed of marines entirely.
reluxor wrote: Some people say the 8th ed box will be "Nu-marines" vs death guard.
If this is so, how to explain the official Death Guard does not seem to have "Nu" proportions ? To me Death Guard seems the standard heroic scale, don t they ?
Makes me think even more that the new marines are not just upscaled, but are a whole new breed of marines entirely.
They are the second new faction available at release, I bet.
I really don't see how upscaling them makes much sense, if that's what is actually going to happen. They would haveto change the entire Space Marine product line, including all the related armies like Chaos and Grey knights. Even the very recent kits would need to be re-done as they'd no longer be the right scale.
Not only that, but it throws all the other models off scale even further. Once you start having one kit that's the correct sort of size, you'd have to do the rest otherwise it all just looks odd. Eldar are supposed to be taller than humans and about the same height as Space Marines for example, so they'd have to do the same for those otherwise they're just shifting the problem from Space Marines only to every other faction in the game. Things aren't too bad as they are at the moment because despite things not being quite to the right scale, that's a problem pretty much all the miniatures have.
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They are not a replacement for marines they are an elite choice or such since Pappa smurf is back think vanguard vets or stern gaurd. It will prob be something to do with access to the Smurfs gene seed so able to produce new upgraded marines or maybe the tech guy also designed new armour for the marines as well.
That's if what we are seeing is true of course.
So basically it's probably a case of ooh look space marines get a brand new unit straight out the gate while us xeno players other than tau get forgotten again :( lol.
10penceman wrote: They are not a replacement for marines they are an elite choice or such since Pappa smurf is back think vanguard vets or stern gaurd. It will prob be something to do with access to the Smurfs gene seed so able to produce new upgraded marines or maybe the tech guy also designed new armour for the marines as well.
That's if what we are seeing is true of course.
So basically it's probably a case of ooh look space marines get a brand new unit straight out the gate while us xeno players other than tau get forgotten again :( lol.
I will be sad if this is true. I don't want upgraded space marines that make anyone who isn't a smirf a second rate space marine. I swear if they make them an ultramarines only unit I'll... whine a bunch and them buy them anyways... I'll use them to replace regular marines anyways so whatever...
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10penceman wrote: They are not a replacement for marines they are an elite choice or such since Pappa smurf is back think vanguard vets or stern gaurd.
Their being painted in 3rd Company colours, which is a battle company.
krazynadechukr wrote: It was just confirmed. Marines being re-scaled (true scale/nu-marine/heroic scale/whatever-ya-wanna-label-it)!
New starter preorder June 3rd, release June 17th!
Such a misleading comment.
This comes from a user in the comments section of miniwars.eu. who said a new starter set including death guard vs nu marines is up for preorder on June 3Rd.
No info one way or the other about the status of these marines.
My money is still on them being a subfaction and not a replacement for tactical marines.
This may have changed over the years but I believe it certainly used to be the case that the older kits were more profitable, so even if it's all about money there is a strong case for keeping the old marines alongside the new.
And let me stop you right there. It's not about "sense" it's about $$$$$$$$$$. 'Nuff said.
But is it really going to provide them loads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Are the players, who have been awash of new Marine kits over last 2 years, really excitedly waiting for different scale Marines which do not visually mix well with their existing armies? I really doubt it. It might be different if it was situation like with Chaos Space Marines, where much of the range is obsolete and in dire need of replacement.
And let me stop you right there. It's not about "sense" it's about $$$$$$$$$$. 'Nuff said.
But is it really going to provide them loads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$? Are the players, who have been awash of new Marine kits over last 2 years, really excitedly waiting for different scale Marines which do not visually mix well with their existing armies? I really doubt it. It might be different if it was situation like with Chaos Space Marines, where much of the range is obsolete and in dire need of replacement.
The suppose I'm a masochist but I am. I have a ton of space wolves still on the sprue and at least 100 regular marines collected over the years still unpainted not to mention dozens of painted marines. I am also super low on money. I am still stoked about the idea of scrapping them for marines that are more properly scaled to the fluff. I would be sad however, as I said earlier, if it was some new kind of unit (especially if it is ultra specific) maybe I'm a minority but I have wanted "true scale" marines for years. I'm ready to deal with the financial consequences to fulfill a long time gaming desire
An upscale of Marines I long past due, likely held off because if $$$ reasons. I say now is as good a time as any
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