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Jambles wrote: I'm not exactly thrilled at the idea of 'Guillimarines', if indeed this is what these guys are gonna be, rather than just the new line of marines... it seems, I dunno, frivolous somehow. Is this what the 40k universe needs, a new breed of Space Marine? It's not a huge deal, but if it's true, it'll be 'meh' for a lot of fans I think.
Maybe others feel similar and just don't want to accept the mounting evidence...
Right? One of the greatest military strategists in the history of the Imperium, architect of the Codex Astartes, and returning High Lord of Terra in conversation with the Emperor of humankind reveals his grand idea is "bigger Marines"? Talk about anticlimactic.
I have trouble imagining this is the way it'll go. There are much better options, IMO. I'm still hoping that they up-tech the Guard instead. If Cawl can make some life-sustaining armor for Guilliman, he can design some sweet armor for the Guard that gets them in better shape for the wars ahead.
Azreal13 wrote: A lot of people said that, plenty of people kept saying it when the original pic leaked, some people are still saying it now.
It won't surprise me if some people are still saying it when the pre orders go up.
We shall see. . .
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Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Which would be great except fo a number of things.
1. The only reason these guys will exist is to re sell people whole armies of marines who all ready have whole armies of marines, thats it all fluff is secondary and was probably scribbled up by the Spirtual Leige himself.
If that were true, we would be seeing a whole new army from day one. So far all we've seen is what looks like a jump pack variant and a tactical variant. No new Terminators, no new Devastators, no new Centurions, Dreadnoughts, etc.
One of the bits that we got, photowise, had the standard Devastator kit being built with the new whatevers in the background.
Well we haven't hit "day one" yet, all we've seen is 3 or 4 blurry pics. And I wouldn't expect them all from day one anyway, I expect basic infantry dudes released over the course of a month or so and then maaaaybe new Terminators down the line and probably no new Centurions at all and maaaaaaybe new Dreadnoughts down the line.
We may not even get that, we may get a starter set with upsized Marines and then the new separate infantry kits further down the line.
GW aren't known for big splash releases.
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MechaEmperor7000 wrote: I am really weirded out by the proportions. The top half looks like a standard marine but the bottom half looks like Terminator Legs, which makes their arms look really weedy and their legs into giant tree trunks.
That's precisely how many people convert their truescale marines, actually.
I've no idea why so many people think GW won't be redoing the SM line. There's a new edition coming out so SM's get redone. We've already seen new tactical and assault marines and they've been bumping up the height for a while now. Given the size of the Stormcast bigger marines were a case of when rather than if.
It's nice to see they've changed the knee pads and boots on the new armour. The old design had too many undercuts.
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I was in my local GW today and the staffer was telling me about the new Edition and I asked about the new marines and he said "yeah, apparently it's some kind of new mark" so, take that with a pinch of salt I suppose.
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Sweet, looks like I don't have to worry about giving GW money ever again. Since there is no way i'm replacing all the HH models I just bought. And any new models won't look right next to them.
Justyn wrote: Sweet, looks like I don't have to worry about giving GW money ever again. Since there is no way i'm replacing all the HH models I just bought. And any new models won't look right next to them.
Why would you do any of that? There were no giant marines in the HH.
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Justyn wrote: Sweet, looks like I don't have to worry about giving GW money ever again. Since there is no way i'm replacing all the HH models I just bought. And any new models won't look right next to them.
I'm gonna guess you weren't playing 40k when the 2nd ed Rhinos got replaced.. but more recently Tau watched the Broadsides get supersized in a big way. At one point the Avatar of Kaine was barely taller than a standard Eldar. Bloodthirsters have come in a few different sizes and shapes. Biovores for Tyranids have been redesigned I think 3 times now.. as far as I can tell getting larger every time. My second edition and Gorkamorka Orks look puny next to their current incarnation. Land Speeders, War Bikes, Land Raiders, Necron Destroyers, Carnifexes, Terminators.. the list goes on. The point is.. things have been doing this all along, you've just not been paying attention until now.
As long as these are a new thing and not just 'we decided the marines didn't look big enough' i can deal with this. I'm not a fan, as it seems like a dumb idea but I will just politely ignore it.
If however it's just decided that marines just weren't big enough so 'let's make them bigger' I'll be seriously unimpressed (given that I've bought into both deathwatch and ksons, which are both less than a year old)
Sirius42 wrote: As long as these are a new thing and not just 'we decided the marines didn't look big enough' i can deal with this. I'm not a fan, as it seems like a dumb idea but I will just politely ignore it.
If however it's just decided that marines just weren't big enough so 'let's make them bigger' I'll be seriously unimpressed (given that I've bought into both deathwatch and ksons, which are both less than a year old)
The Deathwatch are already larger than normal marine, well the kill teams are anyway. I don't expect them to be any taller than those.
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The only thing that would impress me with the numarines is, if GW decided to make them THE marines now scraping or fading out the current line. Simply because that would take some really big balls. But honestly, that I can't see happening
I'm gonna guess you weren't playing 40k when the 2nd ed Rhinos got replaced.. but more recently Tau watched the Broadsides get supersized in a big way. At one point the Avatar of Kaine was barely taller than a standard Eldar. Bloodthirsters have come in a few different sizes and shapes. Biovores for Tyranids have been redesigned I think 3 times now.. as far as I can tell getting larger every time. My second edition and Gorkamorka Orks look puny next to their current incarnation. Land Speeders, War Bikes, Land Raiders, Necron Destroyers, Carnifexes, Terminators.. the list goes on. The point is.. things have been doing this all along, you've just not been paying attention until now.
Oh I was. I didn't own any original Land Raiders, they look stupid. Only two original Rhinos. and none of those other armies. Also you are talking about for the most part them replacing very very old models. Not models released within the last year. If they were replacing models from 1997, I wouldn't be bothered at all.
They literally just released new Devastators and Assault Marines, so...
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Chikout wrote:
Hastings has popped up on the war of sigmar blog saying there will be completely new imperial units made by guillemot and Cawl that will include new types of marines and will feature in a new starter set later this year.
…I’m not suggesting anything gets squatted. I said clearly focus will be on new marines rather than existing chapters, but existing chapters will still get releases.
I don’t get it, people are happy they’re moving the story/timeline on but don’t want anything to change, they want just their chapter to get new toys yet complain SM have too much, 40k players should think themselves lucky that they didn’t get the same treatment that WFB fans did with the destruction of the setting and large parts of models/armies. What’s the point of the hobby for Bret or tomb kings players?
I see new marines as a chance to have the best of both worlds, SM originals don’t get endless variants and units but are still in the fight, new marines are like a new army to build up from scratch pretty much, I’m sure they’d happily ally so don’t really see what the problem is.
…The answer to that is simply I don’t know. I was told they new marines are different to current marines, [...]
I really doubt the iconic space marine kit will be retired so I wouldn’t worry too much about them becoming outdated. I guess fluffwise it would be no different than older armour classes still being around in 40k, sure the new marines would be out there, but a lot of existing marines are still out there too.”
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What will they be called though?
Mk. X sounds nice.
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Did I imagine it or was there recently a Japan only release of named Ultramarines that were a larger scale than normal SM?
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JSG wrote: I do love that people are pretending that every space marine army made after this release won't be solely comprised of numarines though. ;p
Highly doubtful that wll be the case. Heresy players aren't really going to make their marine armies using this new armour from 10,000 years in the future are they?
Also it is reasonable to assume that there will still be people who prefer the look of mk7 and beakies who won't go for the newer armour...
Oh yeah and BA and SW players (and possibly DA) wont really want to use it until versions come out with their own specific chapter decoration on.
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hotsauceman1 wrote: Could they be the new faction, along with death guard. To represent the gullimans hand chosen or something
If they were hand-chosen elites they probably wouldn't be wearing 3rd Company trim, unless GW are planning to completely reorganise the Ultramarines. And wouldn't it be a hilarious, hideous irony if the Ultras become one of the least Codex-compliant chapters after all the Wardian guff from the 5th & 6th Ed codices
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JSG wrote: I do love that people are pretending that every space marine army made after this release won't be solely comprised of numarines though. ;p
Highly doubtful that wll be the case. Heresy players aren't really going to make their marine armies using this new armour from 10,000 years in the future are they?
Also it is reasonable to assume that there will still be people who prefer the look of mk7 and beakies who won't go for the newer armour...
Oh yeah and BA and SW players (and possibly DA) wont really want to use it until versions come out with their own specific chapter decoration on.
I was actually wondering if this might also have the benefit (from GW's pov) of helping to differentiate 30k and 40k. As for your other points... We will see.
JSG wrote: I do love that people are pretending that every space marine army made after this release won't be solely comprised of numarines though. ;p
Highly doubtful that wll be the case. Heresy players aren't really going to make their marine armies using this new armour from 10,000 years in the future are they?
Also it is reasonable to assume that there will still be people who prefer the look of mk7 and beakies who won't go for the newer armour...
Oh yeah and BA and SW players (and possibly DA) wont really want to use it until versions come out with their own specific chapter decoration on.
I was actually wondering if this might also have the benefit (from GW's pov) of helping to differentiate 30k and 40k. As for your other points... We will see.
Yeah we will haha
This could actually lead to 3 distinct looks of space marine army -
Heresy 30k - marks 2 to 5 and a little bit of 6.
Pre-Gathering storm 40k - Mark 7 with a lot of 6 and a smattering of 4, 5 and 8
Post Gathering storm 41k - Mark 9 (or 10) new hotness
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