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Carlovonsexron wrote:
The real question for is after the primarchs are all back what kind of shenanigans are gonna happen to give tue Gray Knights and the Custodians thier own “primarchs”...

The Loyalist Primarchs will have armour that allows them to all slot together to form Megaprimarchus, with the Emperor's throne splitting from the main mechanism of the Golden Throne and forming the head.

 insaniak wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The real question for is after the primarchs are all back what kind of shenanigans are gonna happen to give tue Gray Knights and the Custodians thier own “primarchs”...

The Loyalist Primarchs will have armour that allows them to all slot together to form Megaprimarchus, with the Emperor's throne splitting from the main mechanism of the Golden Throne and forming the head.

At least chaos can use the powers of Blood, Magic, Rot, and Cocaine to form Captain Chaos
"With your powers combined, I am Captain Chaos!"
Captain Chaos, he's a hero, gonna bring Imperium down to zero.

 Rippy wrote:

At least chaos can use the powers of Blood, Magic, Rot, and Cocaine to form Captain Chaos
"With your powers combined, I am Captain Chaos!"
Captain Chaos, he's a hero, gonna bring Imperium down to zero.

 Hollow wrote:

I sometimes think there are those who want everything to stay the exact same and never change.

Pff, aye, what kind of daftie would expect an apocalyptic setting where the "present day" is supposed to be right before the actual apocalpyse bit expect things to remain static? I mean, you'd have to be a complete numptie to think the whole point of establishing a rough 10,000 year timeline with plenty of room to fill it out and expand it meant they were going to fill it out an expand it, rather than contrive ways to cram ever more content into the now TARDIS-esque final couple of years of M41.

30 years and they are improving the marines by explaining it well in the fluff, setting up lots of potential future conflict and interesting story lines.

Explaining things well would require adhering to the established themes and material of the setting - stagnant societies on the verge of final annihilation, defined by their moral, spiritual, and intellectual decay, who make ignorance not merely a virtue but religious dogma and punish innovation as heresy shouldn't really be pulling designs for brand new marks of armour, new weapons, new vehicles and new genetic supermen who're somehow even better than the existing genetic supemen that are supposedly relics of times when technology was far, far superior to the present day out of their backsides. Yes yes, It Was Girlyman Wot Won It, but that only reinforces what a terribad idea it is to reintroduce Primarchs in any circumstances other than the prophesised and possibly entirely mythical "final futile battle against evil" scenario.

 Rippy wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
Stormsurge can't walk away if it's surrounded.

Yes, I am quite looking forward to the potential tactics in 8th. "Do I charge in now, or risk waiting a turn of firing to surround the Stormsurge next turn" for example.

No decision. You don't lose anything really by charging and you get closer which helps surrounding it next turn. If you dont' charge it moves away and you won't likely be able to surround it.

Charge, hack, when it disengages hope you survive and charge again.

The apocalypse just happened Yodhrin, they can move past M41 now.

 insaniak wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The real question for is after the primarchs are all back what kind of shenanigans are gonna happen to give tue Gray Knights and the Custodians thier own “primarchs”...

The Loyalist Primarchs will have armour that allows them to all slot together to form Megaprimarchus, with the Emperor's throne splitting from the main mechanism of the Golden Throne and forming the head.

Sad thing is that's not even that unlikely thing anymore...

tneva82 wrote:

 Rippy wrote:

Daedalus81 wrote:
Stormsurge can't walk away if it's surrounded.

Yes, I am quite looking forward to the potential tactics in 8th. "Do I charge in now, or risk waiting a turn of firing to surround the Stormsurge next turn" for example.

No decision. You don't lose anything really by charging and you get closer which helps surrounding it next turn. If you dont' charge it moves away and you won't likely be able to surround it.

Charge, hack, when it disengages hope you survive and charge again.

I more meant keeping squad A in as much cover as possible, as squad B moves around the back, rather than having squad A charge in by themselves, and be exposed out in the open next turn when the Stormsurge (as an example) moves away and blows them apart.

 insaniak wrote:

Carlovonsexron wrote:
The real question for is after the primarchs are all back what kind of shenanigans are gonna happen to give tue Gray Knights and the Custodians thier own “primarchs”...

The Loyalist Primarchs will have armour that allows them to all slot together to form Megaprimarchus, with the Emperor's throne splitting from the main mechanism of the Golden Throne and forming the head.

Why do you think we have never seen an emperor class titan model. They are waiting to release all the parts of it first.

Daedalus81 wrote:
Stormsurge can't walk away if it's surrounded.

Finally a smart player instead of a whiner!

Anyway, I am loving the current changes to the newer rules because it seems like every unit has a part to play depending on your preferred playstyle as compared to 7th where vehicles are non existent, and there is only one way to play something. Also, another thing is by pushing the story forward GW can create newer units instead of saying it was lost but now its found for every new thing that comes out. Can't wait to see the new reserves rules tonight!

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Hollow wrote:

I sometimes think there are those who want everything to stay the exact same and never change.

Pff, aye, what kind of daftie would expect an apocalyptic setting where the "present day" is supposed to be right before the actual apocalpyse bit expect things to remain static? I mean, you'd have to be a complete numptie to think the whole point of establishing a rough 10,000 year timeline with plenty of room to fill it out and expand it meant they were going to fill it out an expand it, rather than contrive ways to cram ever more content into the now TARDIS-esque final couple of years of M41.

30 years and they are improving the marines by explaining it well in the fluff, setting up lots of potential future conflict and interesting story lines.

Explaining things well would require adhering to the established themes and material of the setting - stagnant societies on the verge of final annihilation, defined by their moral, spiritual, and intellectual decay, who make ignorance not merely a virtue but religious dogma and punish innovation as heresy shouldn't really be pulling designs for brand new marks of armour, new weapons, new vehicles and new genetic supermen who're somehow even better than the existing genetic supemen that are supposedly relics of times when technology was far, far superior to the present day out of their backsides. Yes yes, It Was Girlyman Wot Won It, but that only reinforces what a terribad idea it is to reintroduce Primarchs in any circumstances other than the prophesised and possibly entirely mythical "final futile battle against evil" scenario.

Basically anything can be reduced down to this kind of sarcastic tedium. Nothing about the new fluff doesn't fit in with the universe. You just don't like it, which is personal taste.

Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

Spoiler:

Vorian wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Hollow wrote:

I sometimes think there are those who want everything to stay the exact same and never change.

Pff, aye, what kind of daftie would expect an apocalyptic setting where the "present day" is supposed to be right before the actual apocalpyse bit expect things to remain static? I mean, you'd have to be a complete numptie to think the whole point of establishing a rough 10,000 year timeline with plenty of room to fill it out and expand it meant they were going to fill it out an expand it, rather than contrive ways to cram ever more content into the now TARDIS-esque final couple of years of M41.

30 years and they are improving the marines by explaining it well in the fluff, setting up lots of potential future conflict and interesting story lines.

Explaining things well would require adhering to the established themes and material of the setting - stagnant societies on the verge of final annihilation, defined by their moral, spiritual, and intellectual decay, who make ignorance not merely a virtue but religious dogma and punish innovation as heresy shouldn't really be pulling designs for brand new marks of armour, new weapons, new vehicles and new genetic supermen who're somehow even better than the existing genetic supemen that are supposedly relics of times when technology was far, far superior to the present day out of their backsides. Yes yes, It Was Girlyman Wot Won It, but that only reinforces what a terribad idea it is to reintroduce Primarchs in any circumstances other than the prophesised and possibly entirely mythical "final futile battle against evil" scenario.

Basically anything can be reduced down to this kind of sarcastic tedium. Nothing about the new fluff doesn't fit in with the universe. You just don't like it, which is personal taste.

Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Not at all, I just disagree with him.

It takes established themes - the 40k dystopia and it juxtaposes the earlier enlightenment of the crusade era into it. It's not abandoning the theme at all. Hopefully they play up the clash of these two in the future - we at least know RG was pretty horrified by what has happened.

RG hasn't swooped in to save it all, he's trying to salvage something from the ashes. Things have literally never been worse for humanity.

There have been many programs trying to improve marines, so the idea is something from the established background, I haven't actually read it yet to decide if it was written to my liking or not.

Yod is free to dislike whatever he likes, but what he's saying is opinion and not factual and like I say, You can reduce any story down in to its basic elements and make it sound crap, it's incredibly easy to be negative about everything (as demonstrated frequently around here).

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:


Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

His points are only 'good' if you share his view. Which traditionally is miserable, anti-GW and anti-change. It's almost like you are doing the thing you are being critical of.

EDIT.. Vorian saying it better than I could

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Improved gene seed already exists in the setting. The new and improved Errant mark was being introduced into general use. New vehicles and weapons can happen at any time within the setting AS IT EXISTS EVEN TODAY, if only because hereteks exist. None of those things are "pulled out of a backside".

All that is happening is that, after 30 years of setting stasis, the natural human drive towards self improvement finally has a champion that cannot be swept under the rug by the entrenched hierarchy. And he's not even winning in any meaningful way right now.

Some on guys, don't be sneaky, just look at the death guard model in OP*

*Rippy is not responsible for damage done to clothes by over drooling

Edit: maybe your drool isn't as gross as mine though, I just had McDonalds

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Improved gene seed already exists in the setting. The new and improved Errant mark was being introduced into general use. New vehicles and weapons can happen at any time within the setting AS IT EXISTS EVEN TODAY, if only because hereteks exist. None of those things are "pulled out of a backside".

All that is happening is that, after 30 years of setting stasis, the natural human drive towards self improvement finally has a champion that cannot be swept under the rug by the entrenched hierarchy. And he's not even winning in any meaningful way right now.

So wait, you're saying that Cawl - a character that we never knew even existed even though he was a ten thousand years old Archmagos Dominus - just appearing out of nowhere and healing RG with Xenos help and then saying that he was set on this super secret mission by a Primarch to provide the Imperium with "extra special" Astartes isn't an asspull?

No, you're right - it's mediocre storytelling.

There's a new FAQ sesh on WarhammerTV tomorrow at 5:30 pm.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:


Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

His points are only 'good' if you share his view. Which traditionally is miserable, anti-GW and anti-change. It's almost like you are doing the thing you are being critical of.

EDIT.. Vorian saying it better than I could

And here we go, the usual "You're anti-GW" bs.

Grow up ffs. I actually like some things about the 8th ed, and dislike others.

Well the good side to all this is maybe one of the better after market bitz makers will make tru... Primaris Scale arms and legs.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Improved gene seed already exists in the setting. The new and improved Errant mark was being introduced into general use. New vehicles and weapons can happen at any time within the setting AS IT EXISTS EVEN TODAY, if only because hereteks exist. None of those things are "pulled out of a backside".

All that is happening is that, after 30 years of setting stasis, the natural human drive towards self improvement finally has a champion that cannot be swept under the rug by the entrenched hierarchy. And he's not even winning in any meaningful way right now.

So wait, you're saying that Cawl - a character that we never knew even existed even though he was a ten thousand years old Archmagos Dominus - just appearing out of nowhere and healing RG with Xenos help and then saying that he was set on this super secret mission by a Primarch to provide the Imperium with "extra special" Astartes isn't an asspull?

No, you're right - it's mediocre storytelling.

Even though he is a new old character, I actually like the story. Yes it is a bit of an asspull, but I like where it is all going. As a community whole, we begged for story progression, and now we have it I like the way it was executed.

When you write it in a cynical way, yes, it doesn't sound great, but that is the same with pretty much any story.

It makes more sense that Robby G had a long term plan, and crazy that a mad old mostly robot scientist has been going at that plan for 10k years. It is classic crazy 40k style plot, and I like it.

So because something wasn't foreshadowed twenty years ago, it has no place in the story today? We're supposed to know every single important character before he does anything important?

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:


Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

His points are only 'good' if you share his view. Which traditionally is miserable, anti-GW and anti-change. It's almost like you are doing the thing you are being critical of.

EDIT.. Vorian saying it better than I could

And here we go, the usual "You're anti-GW" bs.

Grow up ffs. I actually like some things about the 8th ed, and dislike others.

I was refering to the poster you came leaping too, not yourself.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:


Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

His points are only 'good' if you share his view. Which traditionally is miserable, anti-GW and anti-change. It's almost like you are doing the thing you are being critical of.

EDIT.. Vorian saying it better than I could

And here we go, the usual "You're anti-GW" bs.

Grow up ffs. I actually like some things about the 8th ed, and dislike others.

I was refering to the poster you came leaping too, not yourself.

It's cute the way people by pass points they can't refute and focus on pointless nonsense to save face isn't It?

Vorian wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

Spoiler:

Vorian wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Hollow wrote:

I sometimes think there are those who want everything to stay the exact same and never change.

Pff, aye, what kind of daftie would expect an apocalyptic setting where the "present day" is supposed to be right before the actual apocalpyse bit expect things to remain static? I mean, you'd have to be a complete numptie to think the whole point of establishing a rough 10,000 year timeline with plenty of room to fill it out and expand it meant they were going to fill it out an expand it, rather than contrive ways to cram ever more content into the now TARDIS-esque final couple of years of M41.

30 years and they are improving the marines by explaining it well in the fluff, setting up lots of potential future conflict and interesting story lines.

Explaining things well would require adhering to the established themes and material of the setting - stagnant societies on the verge of final annihilation, defined by their moral, spiritual, and intellectual decay, who make ignorance not merely a virtue but religious dogma and punish innovation as heresy shouldn't really be pulling designs for brand new marks of armour, new weapons, new vehicles and new genetic supermen who're somehow even better than the existing genetic supemen that are supposedly relics of times when technology was far, far superior to the present day out of their backsides. Yes yes, It Was Girlyman Wot Won It, but that only reinforces what a terribad idea it is to reintroduce Primarchs in any circumstances other than the prophesised and possibly entirely mythical "final futile battle against evil" scenario.

Basically anything can be reduced down to this kind of sarcastic tedium. Nothing about the new fluff doesn't fit in with the universe. You just don't like it, which is personal taste.

Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Not at all, I just disagree with him.

It takes established themes - the 40k dystopia and it juxtaposes the earlier enlightenment of the crusade era into it. It's not abandoning the theme at all. Hopefully they play up the clash of these two in the future - we at least know RG was pretty horrified by what has happened.

RG hasn't swooped in to save it all, he's trying to salvage something from the ashes. Things have literally never been worse for humanity.

There have been many programs trying to improve marines, so the idea is something from the established background, I haven't actually read it yet to decide if it was written to my liking or not.

Yod is free to dislike whatever he likes, but what he's saying is opinion and not factual and like I say, You can reduce any story down in to its basic elements and make it sound crap, it's incredibly easy to be negative about everything (as demonstrated frequently around here).

Now we're talking.

Firstly let me say that I can understand that, and that is a much better answer than just saying what you did above....

Regarding the difference in the themes - this specifically marks the beginning of the abandoning of what I believe is the main 40k Theme - hopelessness. It most crucially completely clears out the "long defeat" feel that you had going on in the Imperium - the pointless drudging through years on years of war and pain and hopelessness, the droning of a society that is reduced to a mindless zealotry because that was all they got left, they didn't even have hope anymore - the hope brought by the Great Crusade was crushed during the HH. That hopelessness permeated the decadent societies so deeply that it automatically gave the Tau their character because they just... weren't like the rest. But do note how they didn't change the rest.

It's a completely different feel than what GW is going to push now with this "this is totally not what we're doing with AoS guys!" Indomitus crusade. You can substitute the terms one by one (which I did just out of a joke on a post yesterday) and you can see that it's the exact same thing. And although you still got the basics around that you can identify with what was before but it's just that - a mere vestigial resemblance, kinda like the traits that pass from your grandfather to you. Inside you're a completely different individual. There will be no logic in the fluff jump between 7th and 8th because the inherent themes are so utterly different, and I believe we'll start seeing soon enough.

And yes, sure RG hasn't saved it all yet but let me a bit more cynical here... What's he's being set up to do is a second Great Crusade (like Big Daddy E and Sigmar) to liberate the Galaxy and most likely save and recover his lost brothers (and don't even get me started on the possibility of Sanguinius suddenly popping into existence, thus completely invalidating his sacrifice against Horus and the very reason the BA's got even more flying rodent gak crazy) and re-enact all the tropes we saw in the Great Crusade descriptions and in AoS... which are again have completely different underlying themes to 40k.

The thing here is that whoever is writing this new fluff isn't really, imo ofc, respecting the basic themes of 40k and is going to create a completely different setting. They aren't juxtaposing it, though I can see where you're seeing that - they are just going to ignore it. And ignoring them will bring internal inconsistencies that will make things... odd.


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 His Master's Voice wrote:
So because something wasn't foreshadowed twenty years ago, it has no place in the story today? We're supposed to know every single important character before he does anything important?

I'm not saying there's no place in it today. I'm just pointing it out as bad storytelling.


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 Rippy wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Improved gene seed already exists in the setting. The new and improved Errant mark was being introduced into general use. New vehicles and weapons can happen at any time within the setting AS IT EXISTS EVEN TODAY, if only because hereteks exist. None of those things are "pulled out of a backside".

All that is happening is that, after 30 years of setting stasis, the natural human drive towards self improvement finally has a champion that cannot be swept under the rug by the entrenched hierarchy. And he's not even winning in any meaningful way right now.

So wait, you're saying that Cawl - a character that we never knew even existed even though he was a ten thousand years old Archmagos Dominus - just appearing out of nowhere and healing RG with Xenos help and then saying that he was set on this super secret mission by a Primarch to provide the Imperium with "extra special" Astartes isn't an asspull?

No, you're right - it's mediocre storytelling.

Even though he is a new old character, I actually like the story. Yes it is a bit of an asspull, but I like where it is all going. As a community whole, we begged for story progression, and now we have it I like the way it was executed.

When you write it in a cynical way, yes, it doesn't sound great, but that is the same with pretty much any story.

It makes more sense that Robby G had a long term plan, and crazy that a mad old mostly robot scientist has been going at that plan for 10k years. It is classic crazy 40k style plot, and I like it.

Nope, these are all things people have made up.

There is literally nothing hinting that RG is going to sweep through and set up a utopia. All of the background is playing up how desperate of a situation they are in.

They are throwing the kitchen sink at it while the imperium circles the drain.

Success would be getting back to how doomed they were before - which won't happen

I like some aspects of 8th, but I don't like every aspect of 8th, and some of the RG story arc progression is bad fan fiction turned up to 11.

GW are contradicting their own, decades established fluff, with Deus Ex Machina, and are literally, pulling things out of their rear.

It doesn't make you ant-GW to call a spade a spade.

Going on a rant here, but back in 1980s Britain, when I was around

The 40k fluff was established and influenced by the backdrop of Thatcher's Britain, which was not a good place to grow up if you were working-class like me.

the fluff was grim, because British society was grim for a lot of its inhabitants. This latest generation of GW writers seem to have forgotten their roots.

Hope just feels weird in the 40k universe, and as an earlier poster points out, they have 10,000 years of history to expand and develop.

New armour and new marines feels out of place. Although I admit the new marines are very nice models.

Again: what exactly? Everything is perfectly consistent.

There is no Deus Ex Mechanica other than RG coming back fulfilling something that has been a possibility from pretty much the start of the Primarchs existing

On the loss of hope, I'd say false or slim hope is a far worse situation.

When you've lost hope, you'll fight for every scrap of ground because there is no alternative.

But when help is meant to be coming, and then doesn't? That's far worse.

I'd say 40k's roots aren't so much the Thatcherite era, but the preceding post-Imperial era. In the space of maybe 40 years, Great Britain lost [I[everything[/I]. Prior to World War One we were absolutely a super power in the world. Our Empire was still enormous, and we had powerful industry.

By the end of the Second World War, we were wrecked. Two generations had been decimated. Chunks of the country had been heavily bombed - and we could no longer hold onto the Empire (not a bad thing. I'm not some swastika eyed Daily Mail reader). We lost power, wealth and influence. The lot.

Whether or not Thatcher's actions simply drew a line under the inevitable, who knows. That's a topic for a thread in Off Topic, not here.

As for Cawl? He's been on a 10,000 year top secret mission. Clue as to why we've not heard of him before is that his mission was top secret

And I've long postulated that The Imperium is not, and never has been, entirely daft. They know if Terra falls, it's all over. So they would've been making sure any assault on Terra and the Sol System was a forlorn hope - one no invader could ever properly carry out.

Geneseed has been tithed to Terra for 10,000 years - 50% of it held there, 50% on that planet in the old Iron Warriors book (unsure if that remains canon though?). There's no way it's all been used to create new Chapters or replace disastrous losses. No way at all. Each Maureen has two Geneseed zygots in him. So even if only 50% of warriors have theirs successfully extracted, there's actually no real loss to potential replacement. But we know it's a much higher percentage is successfully recovered, because Apothecaries are good at their job.

So that leaves a lot of geneseed in the vaults.

All that's really been missing (or so it seemed) was the knowledge and authority to get cracking with it.

And don't forget - prior to his spot in stasis and the event of Rise of the Primarch, Guilliman was not dead. On the brink thereof? Yes. But not actually ded.

Given Cawl is a high ranking member of the Mechanicus, it's entirely possible he created that Ark thing following 9,000 years of meticulous research and archive raiding on Mars, having long ago theorised there was a way to keep Guilliman kicking until his fantastical metabolism could heal his grievous wound.

It's not new lore, so much as stuff that's never come to the fore, simply because those involved were either in stasis, or stupidly busy.

 Rippy wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Actually he's making good points. Points which you, oh so unsurprisingly, are ignoring for the sake of your own argumentation and rose tinted views of the new stuff. But that's ok, because it's all "personal taste" for you, right?

Improved gene seed already exists in the setting. The new and improved Errant mark was being introduced into general use. New vehicles and weapons can happen at any time within the setting AS IT EXISTS EVEN TODAY, if only because hereteks exist. None of those things are "pulled out of a backside".

All that is happening is that, after 30 years of setting stasis, the natural human drive towards self improvement finally has a champion that cannot be swept under the rug by the entrenched hierarchy. And he's not even winning in any meaningful way right now.

So wait, you're saying that Cawl - a character that we never knew even existed even though he was a ten thousand years old Archmagos Dominus - just appearing out of nowhere and healing RG with Xenos help and then saying that he was set on this super secret mission by a Primarch to provide the Imperium with "extra special" Astartes isn't an asspull?

No, you're right - it's mediocre storytelling.

Even though he is a new old character, I actually like the story. Yes it is a bit of an asspull, but I like where it is all going. As a community whole, we begged for story progression, and now we have it I like the way it was executed.

When you write it in a cynical way, yes, it doesn't sound great, but that is the same with pretty much any story.

It makes more sense that Robby G had a long term plan, and crazy that a mad old mostly robot scientist has been going at that plan for 10k years. It is classic crazy 40k style plot, and I like it.

You aren't looking at it in his light. The way he wants it, GW could never make new stories and such because they didn't think to make these characters and/or storylines 20 years ago when they started out.