Requizen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 gnome_idea_what wrote:

Eyjio wrote:
They guys on the FLG podcast also confirmed that "the playtesters" did at least some of the Forge World testing, so hopefully we'll have less obviously broken/useless units in their range going forwards. The broken stuff I'm less concerned about, as it's rarely been too OP, barring obvious abuses like the old Lynx or Thudd guns, but there are a LOT of really bad FW rules stopping units being played. I mean, have you ever seen any of the necron FW stuff, like the Tesseract Ark or the Tomb Sentinel? Stone Crusher Carnifexes? XV9's with phyased ion guns? Eldar Wasps? Basically any of the IG tanks? I doubt it; for many of us, they're too awful to even consider. I'd love to buy a Night Shroud bomber or put my Tomb Stalker on the table, but it's just not feasible other than in the most casual of casual games; they're just dismal.

Yeah, most of the stuff that FW put out in the last few editions has been mostly useless. It should be fun to see the range of usable models vastly expanded.

Teaseract Arks and Shroud Bombers actually weren't too bad in 6th and near the beginning of 7th. Then we had a few things happen:
1. You couldn't get anything in the Decurion. Which wouldn't have been too bad if:
2. The Decurion was the only way to play Necrons competitively, as:
3. Power Creep got ridiculous. How many people actually complained about the Decurion when everyone started getting stupidly tougher models, free upgrades and vehicles, assaulting from Deep Strike, and ridiculous firepower to boot.

It is a huge chain reaction. The rules for the Tomb Stalker and Sentinel themselves aren't bad, but you can't get anything from them in that format (plus they had ridiculously slow movement).

I would gladly buy a Tesseract Ark if it had decent rules. I love that model.

davethepak wrote:

Requizen wrote:

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:

 gnome_idea_what wrote:

Eyjio wrote:
They guys on the FLG podcast also confirmed that "the playtesters" did at least some of the Forge World testing, so hopefully we'll have less obviously broken/useless units in their range going forwards. The broken stuff I'm less concerned about, as it's rarely been too OP, barring obvious abuses like the old Lynx or Thudd guns, but there are a LOT of really bad FW rules stopping units being played. I mean, have you ever seen any of the necron FW stuff, like the Tesseract Ark or the Tomb Sentinel? Stone Crusher Carnifexes? XV9's with phyased ion guns? Eldar Wasps? Basically any of the IG tanks? I doubt it; for many of us, they're too awful to even consider. I'd love to buy a Night Shroud bomber or put my Tomb Stalker on the table, but it's just not feasible other than in the most casual of casual games; they're just dismal.

Yeah, most of the stuff that FW put out in the last few editions has been mostly useless. It should be fun to see the range of usable models vastly expanded.

Teaseract Arks and Shroud Bombers actually weren't too bad in 6th and near the beginning of 7th. Then we had a few things happen:
1. You couldn't get anything in the Decurion. Which wouldn't have been too bad if:
2. The Decurion was the only way to play Necrons competitively, as:
3. Power Creep got ridiculous. How many people actually complained about the Decurion when everyone started getting stupidly tougher models, free upgrades and vehicles, assaulting from Deep Strike, and ridiculous firepower to boot.

It is a huge chain reaction. The rules for the Tomb Stalker and Sentinel themselves aren't bad, but you can't get anything from them in that format (plus they had ridiculously slow movement).

I would gladly buy a Tesseract Ark if it had decent rules. I love that model.

As someone with a LOT of FW models, I really do hope they are balanced well. I get tired of either OP or (more often) just poor units.

I absolutely love my xv9 suits, and the necron tesseract ark - but they are indeed pretty bad (don't even get me started on heavy gun drones).

gungo wrote:
So will the wall of martyrs line of terrain get official rules or are we ass out becuase they are rumoured discontinued and have been unavailable since last month?

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
Assuming the Sisters of Battle don't just get Squatted, I'm guessing that they'll just have a couple of units added into a greater 'Imperial Agents' style list, alongside the Inquisition and other Imperial forces.

Sisters have models for sale, and thus wold be under the umbrella of "all current models are getting updated into the new eidtion". I know we like to run that dead horse so far into the ground that it lands on Hell's throne, but it really just needs to stop being a thing.

Chikout wrote:
So there is no new preorder this weekend.
The only release on the 3rd of June is the aos skirmish playmat.
Are we really going to have a completely empty week on the 10th?
As an aside preorders do not count towards financial results until the sale has been realised (when customers receive the product) so May 27th preorders will go into next year's results.

June 3rd – mark your calendars folks, because that’s the day you’ll be able to pre-order your copy of the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. You’ll then be among the first to get your hands on it come release day on June 17th.

Incredible stuff! Here in the Warhammer Community Team, we think that the models alone make this the best Warhammer 40,000 box set ever made. Discussion has already begun about who’s buying two sets in order to bulk out their forces and, as is a time-honoured tradition, there are plenty of pledges of swapsies as the team vie to gain either more Space Marines or Death Guard.

And yet, Dark Imperium is really just the beginning. The launch lineup for the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is the most extensive we’ve had for any game we’ve ever released. So brace yourself, and let’s dive on in!

This is an awesome box set. Inside, you get two armies of brand new miniatures, the full hardback Warhammer 40,000 book, dice and range rulers. Even the outside is covered in gorgeous artwork, and the sight of all those goodies as you open the box for the first time is very satisfying… but a bit more on that later…



Fresh from the forges of Mars, and ready to bleed in defence of the Imperium, the Primaris Space Marines have come tooled for war. The bolt rifle-wielding Intercessors are the mainstay of the force. Alongside them march plasma-toting Hellblasters, providing deadly fire-support. And dropping in from orbit are Inceptors with the short range fury of their twin assault bolters.




Leading these new warriors are the champions of the Primaris Space Marines: the inspiring presence of the Lieutenants, the banner-carrying Ancients, and the commander of the force, a Captain clad in new Gravis armour.




The Death Guard are equally impressive. First up, a unit of Plague Marines. The archetypal unit of the XIV Legion swollen with the raw power of decay, these form of the core of any Death Guard force. Nurgle fans will also be pleased to see a shambling plague host represented by the repugnant and varied Poxwalkers, each draped in scraps of clothing from their former lives. There is a new vehicle on offer too – the Foetid Bloat-drone, a floating Daemon Engine that hunts its prey with a malign intelligence.



Rounding off the Death Guard are their own leaders, including a huge new Lord of Contagion, clad in warped Cataphractii Terminator plate and wielding one of the most brutal looking axes we’ve ever seen. Alongside him is the Noxious Blightbringer, a dark reflection of the noble Legion banner bearers of old, who carries a cursed plague bell that tolls with the death knell of his victims. Last but not least is the Malignant Plaguecaster – one of the pestilent sorcerers of this pox-ridden Legion.



A complete set of datasheets to field both these Death Guard and Primaris Space Marines armies are included in two separate booklets inside the box. You’ll also find a host of new background information on the two forces and on the Plague Wars being fought in Ultramar.



And of course, there’s the new Warhammer 40,000 book itself. This 280-page, hardback tome is included in the Dark Imperium box and is also available separately. This book is your guide to the new edition and contains an extensive exploration of the Warhammer 40,000 setting. This includes some pretty major advancements in the story for every faction in the galaxy, not least of which are the arrival of the Great Rift, the rise of Chaos, and the launching of the Indomitus Crusade.

And rules. Lots of rules. All the rules you need to wage the bloodiest of wars in the far future. Alongside the core rules for the game, there are missions, full guidelines for the 3 ways to play (open, narrative and matched) and advanced rules to represent the myriad war zones of the far future, including all the rules you need to play games of Cities of Death, Planetstrike, Stronghold Assault and Death from the Skies.

 BrookM wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/warhammer-40000-launch-date-announced-may22gw-homepage-post-1

June 3rd – mark your calendars folks, because that’s the day you’ll be able to pre-order your copy of the new edition of Warhammer 40,000. You’ll then be among the first to get your hands on it come release day on June 17th.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Breakdown of the index books:

Imperium 1:

SM, BA, DA, SW, GK, DW, LoD

Imperium 2:

IG, AM, IK, IA, ToE

Index Chaos:

Heretic Astartes, Demons, Questor Traitoris? (I'm guessing Traitor Legions?)

Xenos 1;

DE, Craftworld Eldar, Ynnari, Harlequins, Necrons

Xenos 2:

Orks, Tau, Nids, GC

 Kirasu wrote:
All of the models look very good except for the weird floating marines. I guess they have jetpacks because those are some strange leg poses for a jump pack.

 Kirasu wrote:
All of the models look very good except for the weird floating marines. I guess they have jetpacks because those are some strange leg poses for a jump pack.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Breakdown of the index books:

Imperium 1:

SM, BA, DA, SW, GK, DW, LoD

Imperium 2:

IG, AM, IK, IA, ToE

Index Chaos:

Heretic Astartes, Demons, Questor Traitoris? (I'm guessing Traitor Legions?)

Xenos 1;

DE, Craftworld Eldar, Ynnari, Harlequins, Necrons

Xenos 2:

Orks, Tau, Nids, GC

 Rippy wrote:
Thanks for the great post BrookM, added to OP as is

 BrookM wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Thanks for the great post BrookM, added to OP as is

Sorry it's not all of it, that post kept on going and going.