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So from 3rd party, we are looking at about 76 quid for the box. 2 please!

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

Okay so 145€ for me(minus online discount). All index books+rulebook.

Though maybe not all index right at once. IG+orks are key ones to begin with followed by marines&chaos. Eldar one is of least concern.

Well could have been worse.

Assuming the quoted euro prices are true the starter is £95, $150 US, the rulebook is £35, $60 and the index books are £15, $25. (based on equivalently priced products)
Including the full hardback rulebook in the starter set makes it a very attractive package.

Anyone who hates the Inceptor Primaris Squads can feel free to send theirs to me. I like them!

Thebiggesthat wrote:
So from 3rd party, we are looking at about 76 quid for the box. 2 please!

Now this I like.

Glad a good few of the cultists don't look overly nurglefied that they would look fine in a generic mutant rabble. (Lets see them rules FW!)

Think Im gonna leave BA for Stormcast bodies and use these dudes as IF. That Captain is just asking for it.

Hope there is some really nice artwork in the book. Probably the one thing I look forward to the most.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
Anyone who hates the Inceptor Primaris Squads can feel free to send theirs to me. I like them!

They are the reason I'm getting a second box. I was happy just to split one and get the deathguard, but I love those dudes so much

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

The Warhammer 40k bood is the rule book?
And the index books are the books of the factions containing the pt values?

Huh just noticed in the artwork. the jet pack guys seem to have little thrusters on their feet this time too.

 wuestenfux wrote:

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

The Warhammer 40k bood is the rule book?
And the index books are the books of the factions containing the pt values?

looking at a preview the 40k rules book is proably more your setting info, and the rules are almost a leaflet.

 unmercifulconker wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
125€ sounds very reasonable for a 280 page hardcover, some 30 large MEQs, a Dread sized vehicle, 10 cultists...

20 Cultists haha. Pricey but yes worth it.

*sigh* Put me down for 3 boxes.

Still a month away?

Well, time to completely stop buying into the hype then, I'm nearing my limit for keeping up with drawn out marketing hype.

Also those are some really ugly assault marines.

I've just had a look at the starter set and I'm entirely disappointed. I've always bought the starter set, from Battle for Macragge to Dark Vengence, but the new kits look rediculous. The Death Guard are okay but the Primaris Marine kits are rediculously bad designs. I am entirely okay with them being in the game but I was hoping they'd be a unit or two in the starter kit, with th rest being regular Marines.

Quite frankly the models are hideous. The Captain and Jump troops especially. I also hate their overall design, not in terms of how they look but what they are. Its as if GW sat down to discuss the Primaris design strategy and it went like this


"Ok, so what do the fans want?"
"Well, they loved those Mk4 Marines a lot"
"Good! What else?"
"Mk 8 was popular on the Deathwatch squad"
"Excellent!"
"They keep asking for truscale with Imperial Guard as well, should we shrink the human models?"
"Nah fam I got this"


Anyway rant over. Disappointed with the direction they are taking this.

I'm still hoping GW will follow AoS route and makes free unit PDFs and keeps points, detachments, missions exclusive for Index books.

Well I Imagine Death Guard players will be pretty happy. They are probably going to be able to pick up scads of models dirt cheap.

so..... any death guard players in the north of England wanna split a box?

Justyn wrote:
Well I Imagine Death Guard players will be pretty happy. They are probably going to be able to pick up scads of models dirt cheap.

I am as happy as that smiling terminator.

 Deadshot wrote:
I've just had a look at the starter set and I'm entirely disappointed. I've always bought the starter set, from Battle for Macragge to Dark Vengence, but the new kits look rediculous. The Death Guard are okay but the Primaris Marine kits are rediculously bad designs. I am entirely okay with them being in the game but I was hoping they'd be a unit or two in the starter kit, with th rest being regular Marines.

Quite frankly the models are hideous. The Captain and Jump troops especially. I also hate their overall design, not in terms of how they look but what they are. Its as if GW sat down to discuss the Primaris design strategy and it went like this


"Ok, so what do the fans want?"
"Well, they loved those Mk4 Marines a lot"
"Good! What else?"
"Mk 8 was popular on the Deathwatch squad"
"Excellent!"
"They keep asking for truscale with Imperial Guard as well, should we shrink the human models?"
"Nah fam I got this"


Anyway rant over. Disappointed with the direction they are taking this.

So... they did everything the customers wanted?

Sad to say I´m a bit disappointed in the cultists, which was the only part of this release I was interested in.

 ulgurstasta wrote:
Sad to say I´m a bit disappointed in the cultists, which was the only part of this release I was interested in.

What don't you like about them? They perfectly suit the Nurgle aesthetic; grinning, twisted and barely human.

 Deadshot wrote:
I've just had a look at the starter set and I'm entirely disappointed. I've always bought the starter set, from Battle for Macragge to Dark Vengence, but the new kits look rediculous. The Death Guard are okay but the Primaris Marine kits are rediculously bad designs. I am entirely okay with them being in the game but I was hoping they'd be a unit or two in the starter kit, with th rest being regular Marines.

Quite frankly the models are hideous. The Captain and Jump troops especially. I also hate their overall design, not in terms of how they look but what they are. Its as if GW sat down to discuss the Primaris design strategy and it went like this


"Ok, so what do the fans want?"
"Well, they loved those Mk4 Marines a lot"
"Good! What else?"
"Mk 8 was popular on the Deathwatch squad"
"Excellent!"
"They keep asking for truscale with Imperial Guard as well, should we shrink the human models?"
"Nah fam I got this"


Anyway rant over. Disappointed with the direction they are taking this.

I have no doubt this is how it went.
All the (maybe) terrible fluff aside, I like them a lot. Jump Pack Marines look strange, but hey, the rest is awesome.

BrianDavion wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

The Warhammer 40k bood is the rule book?
And the index books are the books of the factions containing the pt values?

looking at a preview the 40k rules book is proably more your setting info, and the rules are almost a leaflet.

Setting, scenarios, stronghold assault. Maybe detachment rules if they aren't in the 12 pages.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Apologies if I missed the link, but an article up about the Forge world stuff. https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/

Also I meant to say thanks for the link. It was already in the OP, but ran out of space in the OP title!!

tneva82 wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:
Blargh, Space Maureens and slighty different Space Maureens make for a no buy on the boxed set.

Guess I get to eat real food and buy wine for June

Well don't be too happy. You still have rulebook and faction book to buy. That or stick to older edition.

I was of the impression the rules were going to be free?

 Rippy wrote:

Justyn wrote:
Well I Imagine Death Guard players will be pretty happy. They are probably going to be able to pick up scads of models dirt cheap.

I am as happy as that smiling terminator.

Which isn't in the box so more to come with mortarion

 wuestenfux wrote:

guru wrote:
From miniwars comments

Dark Imperium boxset 125€
Index book 20€ each
Warhammer 40.000 book 45€
Tactical Objectives 10€
Command Dice 15€
Sector Imperialis Objectives 25€
Combat Gauge 8€
Wound Trackers 10€

http://www.miniwars.eu/2017/05/warhammer-40000-dark-imperium.html#disqus_thread

The Warhammer 40k bood is the rule book?
And the index books are the books of the factions containing the pt values?

280 page Warhammer 40.000 book include the free core rules, 3 ways to play guidelines (open, narrative and matched), advanced rules to play games of Cities of Death, Planetstrike, Stronghold Assault and Death from the Skies. And over 100 pages of new lore and background.

Index books provide rules for every single Warhammer 40,000 Citadel Miniature we sell.
index Imperium I: Space Marines, Blood angels, Dark angels, Space Wolves, Grey knights, Deadwatch, Legion of the damned.
Index Imperium II: Astra militarum, Adeptus Mechanicus, Imperial Knights, Imperial Agents, Talons of the emperor.
Index Chaos: Heretic astartes, Chaos daemons, Questor traitoris
Index xenos I: Craftworld, Drukhari, Harlequin, Ynnari, Necrons.
Index Xenos II: Orks, Tau empire, Tyranids, genestealer cult.

Loving this set. I have an Alpha Legion/Thousand Sons army and I'll happily drop the Death Guard marines into that, but I'll be keeping the cultist mutants for conversions, and I'll possibly use the drone for something creative too.

The Primaris Marines are excellent, though. This is a slow retcon of the out-of-scale models, and they've managed to handle it with an in-universe story. But for those of us with established armies already (which is a huge number of people) they can also be "dropped in" as specialist units too. Over time, we'll replace our collections, obviously, but giving people the option rather than simply replacing the range is a smart, smart move by GW, regardless of what some predictably negative people might be saying.

So they're going to be dropped into my existing Iron Hands force (as is my slow-moving conversion of Robo-Guilliman), with a few choice bionics here and there.

Biggest draw for me is the fact that it comes with the FULL 280 page rulebook, if I'm understanding the community page? That's really something. If the Blight Drone ends up being the only superfluous item in this box then that makes it one of the better starter boxes in ages to me.

 TheDraconicLord wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:
I've just had a look at the starter set and I'm entirely disappointed. I've always bought the starter set, from Battle for Macragge to Dark Vengence, but the new kits look rediculous. The Death Guard are okay but the Primaris Marine kits are rediculously bad designs. I am entirely okay with them being in the game but I was hoping they'd be a unit or two in the starter kit, with th rest being regular Marines.

Quite frankly the models are hideous. The Captain and Jump troops especially. I also hate their overall design, not in terms of how they look but what they are. Its as if GW sat down to discuss the Primaris design strategy and it went like this


"Ok, so what do the fans want?"
"Well, they loved those Mk4 Marines a lot"
"Good! What else?"
"Mk 8 was popular on the Deathwatch squad"
"Excellent!"
"They keep asking for truscale with Imperial Guard as well, should we shrink the human models?"
"Nah fam I got this"


Anyway rant over. Disappointed with the direction they are taking this.

So... they did everything the customers wanted?

Missed my point. People (not me, I like Marine models as is) asked for more Mk 4 (which we got), more Mk8 (which we got in Tactical Squad, Sternguard Squad and Deathwatch Vets) and Truescale. Primaris are all three chucked into a blender and hoping for the best and they, look, hideous.

I like the Primaris alot, except for those silly assault ones.

Just got a newsletter from FW

'New Index Books!

Rules for the extensive Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range will be made available in a series of Index books.

The first two of these will be available alongside the new edition of Warhammer 40,000, available to pre-order on the 3rd of June. These first two books will cover the forces of the Adeptus Astartes and their traitorous kin.

Head over to the Warhammer Community site for more details on the rest of the Forge World range.'

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/23/forge-world-and-the-new-warhammer-40000/

Much like Citadel Miniatures, rules for the extensive Warhammer 40,000 Forge World range will be made available in a series of Index books. The first two of these will be available alongside the new edition of Warhammer 40,000, available to pre-order on the 3rd of June. These first two books will cover the forces of the Adeptus Astartes and their traitorous kin.


woo hoo my chaos fire raptor and fellblade wont just gather dust for a year

Problem is to people who don't have or want space maureens, it is an entirely superfluous box.