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PossumCraft wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:
Blargh, Space Maureens and slighty different Space Maureens make for a no buy on the boxed set.

Guess I get to eat real food and buy wine for June

Well don't be too happy. You still have rulebook and faction book to buy. That or stick to older edition.

I was of the impression the rules were going to be free?

I guess we will get an impression of the rule set for free.

 Rippy wrote:
I like the Primaris alot, except for those silly assault ones.

Same, but even those I really, really like. The jetpack alone sells them. Loving that massive jetpack!

PossumCraft wrote:
Problem is to people who don't have or want space maureens, it is an entirely superfluous box.

Well that's always case with starter sets. Don't want marines or chaos? Dark vengeance useless. Marines and orks? 5th ed was useless.

Marines is given so if you don't want those half the box is always useless. If you don't want 2nd half which varies you don't need it either. Then just get separate rulebook. Or if you want rest of stuff buy box and sell both set of models.

I'm debating do I want to pay for the death guard or not. There's lots of sons of horus I would also want like drop pods etc.

PossumCraft wrote:
Problem is to people who don't have or want space maureens, it is an entirely superfluous box.

Which is why they're selling the rulebook on it's own?

Wait, there's pictures of the starter box? Does anyone have a link, please? I could really use a boost today.

PossumCraft wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:
Blargh, Space Maureens and slighty different Space Maureens make for a no buy on the boxed set.

Guess I get to eat real food and buy wine for June

Well don't be too happy. You still have rulebook and faction book to buy. That or stick to older edition.

I was of the impression the rules were going to be free?

The core rules yes, which are about 12 pages long will be downloadable from the website. They've also said those same 12 pages will probably get reprinted in every book as well. At no point have they ever said army rules will be free.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Wait, there's pictures of the starter box? Does anyone have a link, please? I could really use a boost today.

OP has it all

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Wait, there's pictures of the starter box? Does anyone have a link, please? I could really use a boost today.

It's on the Warhammer Community site bud.

 Imateria wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

PossumCraft wrote:
Blargh, Space Maureens and slighty different Space Maureens make for a no buy on the boxed set.

Guess I get to eat real food and buy wine for June

Well don't be too happy. You still have rulebook and faction book to buy. That or stick to older edition.

I was of the impression the rules were going to be free?

The core rules yes, which are about 12 pages long will be downloadable from the website. They've also said those same 12 pages will probably get reprinted in every book as well. At no point have they ever said army rules will be free.

And I suspect that 12 page will lack also strongholds etc. Maybe even detachments(or those are going to be hefty piece of 12 pages...Like at least third).

since I play mostly cityfight I need at least those rules.

Well, I think we will see a nice bunch of Marines in the starter set. This is worth buying even for non-Marine players. Same went for the AoS Blood Warriors and whatnot.

Getting great feedback on the release from Facebook.

haven't seen the community this excited in a long time

The assault marines are so bad

The 'gravis' armour captain isnt much better!

robbienw wrote:
The assault marines are so bad

The 'gravis' armour captain isnt much better!

I like em. I think they'd be better with a big feth off chainsword mind

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I think we will see a nice bunch of Marines in the starter set. This is worth buying even for non-Marine players. Same went for the AoS Blood Warriors and whatnot.

What non-marine players get? At most they can sell them for money. Or you could just get pieces you want from ebay.

 Rippy wrote:
Getting great feedback on the release from Facebook.

haven't seen the community this excited in a long time

Spoiler:

Fan-fething-tastic!

I really don't see the issue with the assault marines. It looks like there has been more thought with how a jet pack user would need to augment his gear.

Instead of 'lets just slap a jet pack on him'

We have cowling to protect from sudden movement backwards, and heat potentially, and a wider footprint for landing stability. Plus the hood doubles as a more stable mounting area.

tneva82 wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:
Well, I think we will see a nice bunch of Marines in the starter set. This is worth buying even for non-Marine players. Same went for the AoS Blood Warriors and whatnot.

What non-marine players get? At most they can sell them for money. Or you could just get pieces you want from ebay.

Depends on how much money you can get for selling both the armies compared to the price of the rule book I guess...

Whoa! I love the Primaris marines! The jump marines are weird, but not in a bad way. I like how they're not just normal dudes with jump packs. The only thing I don't like, is the captain (seems to be common opinion), I hope that the Primaris captains will have a rule option to wear a normal armour, so I can base my captain on the sword lieutenant.

The Nurgle stuff looks great too. If I were not so hyped about the Primaris, I might be tempted to start a Nurgle army.

Weeeell, I wasn't planning on getting the starter set but now I might just have to dive into it! I mean I need two of the faction books anyway so I might as well get the starter as well right?.......Right?

 perplexiti wrote:
Weeeell, I wasn't planning on getting the starter set but now I might just have to dive into it! I mean I need two of the faction books anyway so I might as well get the starter as well right?.......Right?

I can't figure out if the Death Guard/UM books in the starter set are full codices or just rules for the models in the box? Maybe I am just tired.


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I imagine just rules for models in the box

 wuestenfux wrote:

I guess we will get an impression of the rule set for free.

Exactly. It's still all about acquisition. With 5 armies I'm up for 4 indices in addition to the BRB if I want to play proper 8th instead of timmy rules. Based on early pricing indications, that's roughly $13,000 AUD. I thought we were supposed to get "free rules".

I'm so fething pissed about this that even though I'd love the BRB for the lore, and the marines for my Angries, and the chaos marines for scenic bases, I'm on the verge of a protest refusal. Again, just like 7th.

 ruprecht wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

I guess we will get an impression of the rule set for free.

Exactly. It's still all about acquisition. With 5 armies I'm up for 4 indices in addition to the BRB if I want to play proper 8th instead of timmy rules. Based on early pricing indications, that's roughly $13,000 AUD. I thought we was supposed to get "free rules".

We will be getting free rules. If these aren't enough to give you the experience you desire, there are paid options available.

 Rippy wrote:

 ulgurstasta wrote:
Sad to say I´m a bit disappointed in the cultists, which was the only part of this release I was interested in.

What don't you like about them? They perfectly suit the Nurgle aesthetic; grinning, twisted and barely human.

Cant really put my finger on it, but something is off about them. Might be some of the bone protrusions.

 Rippy wrote:

 perplexiti wrote:
Weeeell, I wasn't planning on getting the starter set but now I might just have to dive into it! I mean I need two of the faction books anyway so I might as well get the starter as well right?.......Right?

I can't figure out if the Death Guard/UM books in the starter set are full codices or just rules for the models in the box? Maybe I am just tired.


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I imagine just rules for models in the box

Rules for the models in the box. Then, when Plague Termis and Primaris Devastators etc. get released they'll do full Faction Books for each force.

Fidget spinners are Chaos-aligned confirmed.

 ruprecht wrote:

 wuestenfux wrote:

I guess we will get an impression of the rule set for free.

Exactly. It's still all about acquisition. With 5 armies I'm up for 4 indices in addition to the BRB if I want to play proper 8th instead of timmy rules. Based on early pricing indications, that's roughly $13,000 AUD. I thought we was supposed to get "free rules".

I'm so fething pissed about this that even though I'd love the BRB for the lore, and the marines for my Angries, and the chaos marines for scenic bases, I'm on the verge of a protest refusal. Again, just like 7th.

Where did it say free rules? If that was a rumour, why did you put stock in it? This is GW, you'll get basic rules from free but they're a business. Also, you don't need to buy all the Codexes in one go, you can spread it out over a few months. Month 1, Space Marines, Month 2, Necrons, Month 3, Chaos, Month 4 Tyranids. Pick which you want to play with first and buy that.

Also, I REALLLLYYY don't believe its $13,000. That's like £7000 in the UK. Unless each Codex/Index and the BRB cost £1300 EACH. Maybe you meant to write $1300 (£700?)

Thebiggesthat wrote:
We will be getting free rules. If these aren't enough to give you the experience you desire, there are paid options available.

The pre-release hype was deceptive. I'm entitled to be pissed about that. They were so close.

So which index book has all the terrain minatures?

Also I foresee lots of saltiness with the FW books as in "why doesn't my old model have rules and that one does" followed by "this models rules is awesome and OOP"

 ruprecht wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:
We will be getting free rules. If these aren't enough to give you the experience you desire, there are paid options available.

The pre-release hype was deceptive. I'm entitled to be pissed about that. They were so close.

We already get free rules. In the last 2 weeks I've bought a Tactical Squad, Vanguard Vets and Deathwatch Vets, they had the datasheet in the instruction booklet, but you still need the BRB and codex to play. WHY would you ever think this was going to change? GW didn't suggest this, and rumours said a freebie 12 page, "BRB Lite" with the basic rules of the game. Nothing about the Pay To Play system changing.

I love everything in this box. All the miniatures are fantastic, and even the filthy Death Guard have me interested! I was planning on getting the box just for the Marines, but now I might just have to start a small Warband of Plague Marines as well..

We are looking at three looooooooooong weeks ahead of us folks. Strap in.