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Little too small to read.

Is that art for the Keeper of Secrets new?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
New Primaris Dread:

Look GW, it ain't a dreadnought if it has knees!

Only FW is allowed to break that tradition.


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Eyjio wrote:
I'd need to see it from another angle, but I'm glad they went more old school instead of moving towards the Contemptor designs.

I hate contemptor dreadnoughts. They look like they were spawned by something piloted by Dr Robotnic and an obese Vectorman.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
Little too small to read.

Yeah, I'd really like that page enlarged.

Also did anyone go to the convo and can tell us what was in the "seminar" that Pete Foley did.

Oh look a bigger verison of the box dreadnought to go with the bigger tactical marines and the bigger assualt marines and the bigger devastators....no way GW is replacing space marines with primaris.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Oh look a bigger verison of the box dreadnought to go with the bigger tactical marines and the bigger assualt marines and the bigger devastators....no way GW is replacing space marines with primaris.

Yea, but that won't prevent people from ignoring the writing pasted all over their walls.


EDIT: I don't actually mind an upscale BTW, though I won't be in any rush to buy the new guys considering I own about 360 fully painted and based old school marines.

The current Dread is one of the worst models in the 40k line.. The legs are just plain bad.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Oh look a bigger verison of the box dreadnought to go with the bigger tactical marines and the bigger assualt marines and the bigger devastators....no way GW is replacing space marines with primaris.

You're correct, there's yet to be the slightest evidence.

I am not a nurgle guy but the Mortarion model is looking very promising. The design of the wings is particularly cool.

I'm trying to make out the psychic powers. Here's what I've got for Nurgle, but it's not great (things too blurry to make out are [???] and if I've put it in square brackets, I'm unsure of it):

Nurgle Discipline
D3 Psychic power
1. [???] of Corruption
--[???] of Corruption has a warp charge value of [5?]. If [marshalled?], [pick?] the closest enemy unit within 7" of the psyker. The unit suffers [D3] mortal wounds if it has fewer than 10 models and [D6] mortal wounds if it has 10 models or more.
2. [Virulent] Blessing
--[Virulent] Blessing has a warp charge value of 6. If [marshalled], pick a Nurgle Daemon unit within [18]" of the psyker. You can add 1 to all wound rolls [made by this unit] in the Fight phase. [??????????????], any wound rolls of 7+ [???] that [unit] in the Fight phase [inflicts] double damage.
3. [Fl??? ???????]
--{Fl??? ??????] has a warp charge value of of [?]. If [marshalled], select a friendly Nurgle Daemon unit within [16/18]" of the psyker. That unit [recovers] D6 [wounds] lost earlier in the battle

Pretty tough to make out. The top Tzeentch one is obviously a random buff affecting Tzeentch Daemons (+1 attack, +1 strength or +1 toughness) but my eyes already hurt from trying to do Nurgle alone.

Also, I'm slightly surprised GW put fully unobscured breasts next to the page. I guess if there was ever a step to make it more kid friendly, someone's thrown that in the bin - no need to worry about Slaanesh remaining then.

RoninXiC wrote:
The current Dread is one of the worst models in the 40k line.. The legs are just plain bad.

The Whasing Machine with Baby legs is one of the most iconics thing of all of 40k. Is just a totally not-fuctional tomb with legs that can barely moves piloted by a guy that just keep fighting. Is the definition of 40k made model.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Oh look a bigger verison of the box dreadnought to go with the bigger tactical marines and the bigger assualt marines and the bigger devastators....no way GW is replacing space marines with primaris.

Yea, but that won't prevent people from ignoring the writing pasted all over their walls.


EDIT: I don't actually mind an upscale BTW, though I won't be in any rush to buy the new guys considering I own about 360 fully painted and based old school marines.

I say why not! I can't wait to see the faces of the smug players I mow down with my "inferior" oop marines.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... 3 psychic powers per group it seems.



So everyone will know Smite plus maybe a couple other powers.

You can make out a few basic rules from that, though it's stuff that was all confirmed in the Chaos Daemon Faction Focus article; i.e. Nurgle Daemons have the same Disgustingly Resilient special rule that all the Death Guard units have, whereas Tzeentch Daemons add 1 to their invulnerable saves, etc.

Can't make out much about the psychic powers or the Daemonic Ritual rule though. The first Tzeentch power involves a D3 roll and seems to give +1 Attack, +1 Strength or +1 Toughness based on that D3 roll.

new dreadnought:



And angel of decay

 DarkStarSabre wrote:




WE HAVE MORTARION BOYS

I've been waiting so many years for this model.

A better picture of the new dread:




Anyone still going to argue Numarines are not using tau tech with the obvius Ghostkeel-based adaptation in this dude? the main gun is practically a Cyclic Ion Raker.

Pretty pleased with the Genestealer Cults ability to take Imperial Guard formations. It's a good way to get some extra use out of my Guards both in matched play and narrative scenarios.

 Aesthete wrote:
Pretty pleased with the Genestealer Cults ability to take Imperial Guard formations. It's a good way to get some extra use out of my Guards both in matched play and narrative scenarios.

The article didn't make it sound like it had anything to do with GSC, rather that literally anything can ally with anything in 8th Ed.

 BoomWolf wrote:
Anyone still going to argue Numarines are not using tau tech with the obvius Ghostkeel-based adaptation in this dude?

I will. The model uses common Imperial tech visuals. Stop projecting Tau over this.

3 powers is a lot easier to balance than a tree with 6 powers. I'm in support of this change.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Aesthete wrote:
Pretty pleased with the Genestealer Cults ability to take Imperial Guard formations. It's a good way to get some extra use out of my Guards both in matched play and narrative scenarios.

The article didn't make it sound like it had anything to do with GSC, rather that literally anything can ally with anything in 8th Ed.

I guess it could be read as a description of new ally rules. I personally read it as a GSC army ability that for every GSC detachment they can take a AM or Tyranid one.

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:

 Aesthete wrote:
Pretty pleased with the Genestealer Cults ability to take Imperial Guard formations. It's a good way to get some extra use out of my Guards both in matched play and narrative scenarios.

The article didn't make it sound like it had anything to do with GSC, rather that literally anything can ally with anything in 8th Ed.

I would assume that you wouldn't be able to take AM and GC in the same army without them having a special allowance to do so as neither would share any keywords. Nids and GC will probably both share "Tyranid" so they can just mix in normally. I expect all units in your army will need at least one high level keyword in common such as "Imperium", "Chaos", "Eldar", "Ork", "Tyranid" etc..

GW Replied to me telling them the images are too small, they said they're working on it.

Yeah now that I've had time to look it over that Dread has exactly the same number and arrangement of hard points as a Leviathan dread, whilst being significantly less cool. Pass.

As for the Tau thing: If they didn't mean for Cawl to be ripping off the Tau they've certainly did a phenomenal job of accidental parallels given he's invented imperial crisis suits.

not diggin the dread kinda robocop meets killakan XD

mortarion teaser sent a chill down my spine i wont lie.

changemod wrote:
Yeah now that I've had time to look it over that Dread has exactly the same number and arrangement of hard points as a Leviathan dread, whilst being significantly less cool. Pass.

As for the Tau thing: If they didn't mean for Cawl to be ripping off the Tau they've certainly did a phenomenal job of accidental parallels given he's invented imperial crisis suits.

Ah, the eternal question, 'angry hamster ball or angry washing machine?'

changemod wrote:
Yeah now that I've had time to look it over that Dread has exactly the same number and arrangement of hard points as a Leviathan dread, whilst being significantly less cool. Pass.

As for the Tau thing: If they didn't mean for Cawl to be ripping off the Tau they've certainly did a phenomenal job of accidental parallels given he's invented imperial crisis suits.

I feel the opposite - I hate the Leviathan Dread, it looks like someone stuffed pillows under the armour and the guy inside got really fat because it's softly rounded. This dread comes across as Leviathan mk II to me, or a mini warhound.

As for Tau resemblance, I don't see it. About the only thing they share in common is the 3 circular tanks at the bottom; everything else looks pretty much like the old Dread plasma cannon.

 lolman1c wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Oh look a bigger verison of the box dreadnought to go with the bigger tactical marines and the bigger assualt marines and the bigger devastators....no way GW is replacing space marines with primaris.

Yea, but that won't prevent people from ignoring the writing pasted all over their walls.


EDIT: I don't actually mind an upscale BTW, though I won't be in any rush to buy the new guys considering I own about 360 fully painted and based old school marines.

I say why not! I can't wait to see the faces of the smug players I mow down with my "inferior" oop marines.

Yea I know it right, although it makes finishing the guys I have on sprues or in the painting queue all the harder to finish.

changemod wrote:
Yeah now that I've had time to look it over that Dread has exactly the same number and arrangement of hard points as a Leviathan dread, whilst being significantly less cool. Pass.

As for the Tau thing: If they didn't mean for Cawl to be ripping off the Tau they've certainly did a phenomenal job of accidental parallels given he's invented imperial crisis suits.

Until something is actually revealed that draws this...'connection' a little clearer, let's just leave this tangent behind, OK?

Thanks!

changemod wrote:
Yeah now that I've had time to look it over that Dread has exactly the same number and arrangement of hard points as a Leviathan dread, whilst being significantly less cool. Pass.

As for the Tau thing: If they didn't mean for Cawl to be ripping off the Tau they've certainly did a phenomenal job of accidental parallels given he's invented imperial crisis suits.

It's also hard to ignore the coincidence that is the Tau's location near the Ultramarines as well