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Aircraft. All of them.

Flying monstrous creature? Fine.

Skimmer grav vehicles? Great.

Full speed attack craft that couldn't possibly turn around fast enough to have more than one strafing run? Get rid of those.

Lots of stuff in the "redesign or finally get around to updating" list, but things that I think just don't fit the canon?

Centurions
Some of the horrendously gaudy space wolf stuff... I love the original space marauders look, moving towards space vikings- recent stuff is some sort of hyperbolic joke of a theme.

Honorable mentions to the majority of non-FW vehicles done in the past several years, as cartoony chunky little things with awkward design sense.

Either ditch Wulfen entirely or give them good models, remove the chariot and better Fenrisian/Cyber wolf models.

The Wolf sled.
The Taurox
The Stormraven
Horrible models that never should have been made. Stormraven takes the boxy, clunky design of Imperial vehicles waaaaaay too far. It is easily the most hideous model in the 40k range imo. The Taurox just looks awkward with its ridiculous little threads. They should have given it either threads or wheels, not something in-between. And the wolf-sled is just silly. I actually really like the Thunderwolves, and a chariot pulled by wolves actually sounds like a pretty cool idea, but the way they pulled it of it looks just like Santa Claus now.

 Mattlov wrote:
Aircraft. All of them.

Flying monstrous creature? Fine.

Skimmer grav vehicles? Great.

Full speed attack craft that couldn't possibly turn around fast enough to have more than one strafing run? Get rid of those.

As long as I can actually shoot the damn things things im fine but I can't, like what the hell apart from skyfire rockets can chaos do against flyers (and heldrake I guess).

 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
Anything finecast.

One can hope

 TheLumberJack wrote:

 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
Anything finecast.

One can hope

In all honesty I never had any issues with finecast models of marine size or bigger (My Gabriel Seth and Lucius the Eternal are both fine)

Zustiur wrote:
I vote for removing all the Super heavy and gargantuan things, fliers and basically anything introduced since the big models fetish started.

that whole "Fliers and superheavies don't blong" nonsense. Aircraft are some of the best models that FW and GW produce.

If they cannot at least come up with flying rules that are avg, they should drop them from the game
Nothing would be lost.

Apple fox wrote:
If they cannot at least come up with flying rules that are avg, they should drop them from the game
Nothing would be lost.

With the complete destruction of USR and the normalization of models (MC and Vehicles and anything with a ton of wounds all degrading over the course of a battle), I would suspect that fliers are going to behave VERY different this edition in that they will behave VERY similar to everything else.

I expect a minimum and maximum move distance.
I expect no penalty to shooting at fliers with normal weapons. Or at the very most a -1 BS. Weapons that would have the "skyfire" USR before might negate that penalty.
I expect the Flier keyword will have them treat terrain and other models like they do now.
I expect them to behave in all other ways like any other model.

The only flyers I'd like to see kept in the game are shuttle-types (a real shame we don't have shuttle-equivalent aircraft for various races). No one needs fighter or ground-attack aircraft -- you can easily abstract those mechanics. Completely unnecessary to have models (of course, this is a model selling company we're discussing). This is also a game where we use missiles and artillery which could shoot 12-50 miles....and we fired them 150 yards away, so...

However dropship/shuttle...heck, even cargo craft would be a welcome addition for scenarios etc.

When they gave hope to a plastic Thunderhawk kit I thought a really cool/fun multiplayer event would be a huge multi-table actual planetary invasion - where the entire Space Marine/Imperium force could deploy across the tables but only via aircraft/drop pods, etc.

Most of the GW flyers are about as aerodynamic as a brick anyway, si realism is out. No other reason to not have them in.

Has the Chibihawk been mentioned?



Just a terrible design. Terrible. Why did they make this and not an aquila lander?

Catachans haven't been sold in shops for ages so I can't really name them but I would not miss these guys.



Reasonably competent when they came out in 2003 or so, but now? Just dull.

Thunderwolves never bugged me but the sled, yeah, burn it.

Also GW has to (HAS TO!) go back to multipart figures. I make models to tell my stories, not yours. I don't want a special character (and especially not a generic character) that can only be assembled one way. I would buy the heck out of a plastic commissar kit, instead we get this:



Do you want a bolt pistol or a plasma?

GW please STOP THAT. You can do better.

I love the idea of orcs in space, and the barbaric Mad Max look they received in 3rd was cool. It's hard to imagine how a horde of orkz can have any success on the future battlefields where advanced weapons and high explosives should make short work of them.

So orkz, or advance their tech.

Thunderwolves could go too.

I can't think of models that needs to go, but I will really appreciate SNAP FIT kits, that are also multi part, so it wont kill converesion. I lose way too much time in cutting, sanding, glueing...

Wait have we mentioned this yet?



Just go away.

Fluff explanation:

"and then one Tuesday afternoon Robourt upgraded all Space Marine Dreadnoughts to Contemptors and had their old bodies converted back into washing machines for the Chapter Laundrarium which is where they came from in the first place."

No Kid_Kyoto! NOOOO

Box dreads are some of the most beautiful things in 40k! :(

... no, I can't think of any models they should get rid of. That's just mean-spirited, and isn't fair to the people who own those models.

I wouldn't mind if they just stopped selling some of them, though (not keen on the Stormraven, myself, although being bright red doesn't do it any favours).

I like that commissar, and it's pretty easy to replace the sword and pistol. Moreso than the single-part models he replaced, anyway.

Nu-marines.

Primas marines

Orks seem silly to me. Also the massive vehicles and creatures, just getting to be too much at that point, may as well just put your power ranger action figure on the table.

Models? non-Skimmer Flyers
Armies? Necrons. All of them.

OTOH, the derpy woofs can stay, as long as they're properly neutered...

Cadians.

they really need to blow them up and redo proper imperial guard.

please no more derpy ham hands and faces.

We need more kits like the Orc Warboss/Empire General or the Battle Mages box. THATS how you make a generic hero/HQ with variety. I totally agree, feth the monopose and 0 customizaion guys!

Box Dread > Contemptor

I'm hoping that 9th Edition is just Gorkamorka. Nothing but Orks. GW will helpfully sell upgrade kits to Orkify all your existing models.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Box Dread > Contemptor

I'm hoping that 9th Edition is just Gorkamorka. Nothing but Orks. GW will helpfully sell upgrade kits to Orkify all your existing models.

I would buy that.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
Box Dread > Contemptor

I'm hoping that 9th Edition is just Gorkamorka. Nothing but Orks. GW will helpfully sell upgrade kits to Orkify all your existing models.

STREWTH!!! Angry Washing Machine gaks all over the Tall Tubby Termie!

TBH, considering how I play, and how GW wants us to play, Orkifying everything isn't out of the question. We'd still chuck dice, make loud noises, and remove models by the handful. LOUD NOISES!

Taus....

No thats it, not a model in particular, just the race as a whole going "Squat"...

I know its not gonna happen, but its the only solution to have peace and stop with the bs.

I'd rather see some old kits updated than start throwing things away. My top list of things that I think need to be updated:

1) Guard infantry. There is just something about their Cadian line that just isn't doing it for me. It's a combination of their strange proportions, ham fists, and awkward poses I guess. Regardless, I hope they finally re do this army.

2) Sisters of Battle. For all love, either update them or kill them off. This crappy purgatory the army has been in is even worse than Bret players went through. They're a cool concept that fills a niche in both the background and model ranges not found anywhere else. If GW doesn't want them around, just say so.

3) various Chaos kits. Despite being the iconic bad guys of the background, some of their kits are either poorly executed or just so dated a revamp would be most welcome. I'm rather surprised GW doesn't give CSM a little more attention aside from random sub faction releases.

If I had to pick units I really just despise, and wished had never been released:

That weird DA land speeder altar.... Thing.
The Taurox vehicle. Just... Why? Who thought that looked cool?
Centurions. I bought a box of them because they are pretty much the answer to almost anything on the table, but couldn't bring myself to assemble let alone paint them. Probably the worst concept GW has had in a while.

Guard.
Lets face it, Marines are the most common force in the 40k universe and the NuMarines fill the gap the old marines were supposed to fill- there's no more need to keep these useless boot lickers or their players.