Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I for one welcome nu marines I kind of like the progression, maybe working towards a greater less grimdark universe though it seems they are swoing the seeds for an imperium civil war or divided imperimm at the least.

I am hoping numarines are just like an upgrade for existing units. tac marines 13 points upgrade to numarines for say 5 ppm (or whatever their profile makes them worth) same for other units like Devistators or sternguard. can be numarines for x points per model. though i hope for simplicity sake it is upgrade the whole squad not just per model upgrade in the squad.

 Yarium wrote:

 Purifier wrote:

 Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
So, if a normal space marine is 13 points how much do you think these guys will cost per model?

14 or more.

I'm guessing they'll be 20 points or more, depending on how their statline changes. These ones will need to be both stronger and tougher than their older brethren, and I don't know if that's going to be signified by additional Strength/Toughness, or close combat attacks with -1AP and +1 Wound.

I'll be curious to see how they come out. I think they'll have more than just +1 wound.

I was personally hoping these would be more like primarch MC status, but it sounds like they'll just be marines +1, although i have little to base that on.

Looking forward to...

Nu-Rhinos
Nu-Drop Pods
Nu-Landraiders
Nu-Centurions
Nu-Terminators
Nu-Scouts
Nu-Hobby

New post on the Community Site! Looks like I was right with the extra wound

 Mud Turkey 13 wrote:
So, if a normal space marine is 13 points how much do you think these guys will cost per model?

Well, current marines are 14/model. In the new edition they are 13/model.
Strike squad Grey Knights are 22/model. I would expect them to go down to about 20/model.

So, rough guess on these new marines would be if their armor is 3+ then 18pt/model. If it's 2+ then they will run 24-25/model.

So thats it, just an extra wound? Seems a little boring

Power level 6!

LOL

 TheLumberJack wrote:
So thats it, just an extra wound? Seems a little boring

and a better bolter... but at the expense of it appears no heavy or special weapon option.

 TheLumberJack wrote:
So thats it, just an extra wound? Seems a little boring

Dont forget the epic range of the new bloatrifle!

Eh, that statline and wargear bore me. There's no need for them in my army when I have Grey Hunters that do the same thing for less points. Maybe I'll get one of the character ones if they have something interesting.

People wanting 2 wound space marines for the longest time, now they come out and its the end times. People running around screaming, everythings on fire, sirens blaring, salt levels reaching critical mass. Good times

How will the puny terminators stand up against these epic-roid-marines?

Pancakey wrote:
How will the puny 1 wound terminators stand up against these epic-roid-marines?

Termies have 2 wounds now

Pancakey wrote:
How will the puny 1 wound terminators stand up against these epic-roid-marines?

If you hadn't been so utterly focused on making repetitive quips, you would know that terminators have 2 wounds now.

 Yarium wrote:
New post on the Community Site! Looks like I was right with the extra wound

Did we really need new marines for this statline? Why not just buff the tactical squad?

I'm a little perplexed.

Pancakey wrote:
How can terminators have 2 wounds?

THEY ARE SO TINY!!!!

So my best friend gets banned on his first post for agreeing with a comment of mine because paranoid Peregrine thinks its a puppet account I created just to agree with myself (?)

Meanwhile this recently created obvious troll just gets to shout nonsense all day without any fact-checking, whining about anything and everything. Nothing happens.

Gotta love this site.

 Marmatag wrote:

 Yarium wrote:
New post on the Community Site! Looks like I was right with the extra wound

Did we really need new marines for this statline? Why not just buff the tactical squad?

I'm a little perplexed.

to push plastic and give the "truescale" people something to stop bitching about

So, extra wound, extra attack, extra 6" range and AP -1 on the weapon. I wouldn't bet money on them not having upgrade options, just that GW has chosen not to reveal them as yet.

I don't feel as if this requires running out and buying a whole new army's worth of these guys. Maybe a squad or two for funsies, but not a vast new investment.

Still, you got to admit, they look better than Centurions.

The models are great so of course I'll pick some up, but I'm having a hard time seeing how 5 man only squads of slightly better tacticals with no specials will fit into any of my lists.

I just don't know what to do with these guys and it's a shame if they just sit on the shelf.

Looks good, nothing terribly fancy, just an extra wound, attack and a better bolter. Looks like GW is paving the way for people to run not only true-scale, but somewhat more fluff-matching marines.

Just another elite option. I see them as being Ob Sec masters. Since you only get 5 guys and no special weapons. 2 wounds with a long range rifle these guys are going to be awesome as a secondary fire line and holding objectives.

I'm just happy my termis get 2 wounds now.

 G00fySmiley wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:

 Yarium wrote:
New post on the Community Site! Looks like I was right with the extra wound

Did we really need new marines for this statline? Why not just buff the tactical squad?

I'm a little perplexed.

to push plastic and give the "truescale" people something to stop bitching about

Well the good news is, it's pretty easy to say "All my space marines counts as intscissors squads."

 Don Savik wrote:

Pancakey wrote:
How can terminators have 2 wounds?

THEY ARE SO TINY!!!!

So my best friend gets banned on his first post for agreeing with a comment of mine because paranoid Peregrine thinks its a puppet account I created just to agree with myself (?)

Meanwhile this recently created obvious troll just gets to shout nonsense all day without any fact-checking, whining about anything and everything. Nothing happens.

Gotta love this site.

So how much power do you think Peregrine has, exactly? And how incompetent do you think the mods are?

Love the dakka-drama going on right about now.

 BlaxicanX wrote:
"B-but that's just a conversion!"

"I know a Centurion head when I see one!"

"Y-you can see the green stuff on it!"

Has there ever been a time in this hobby where skeptics were more thoroughly blown the feth out?

Its possible that the first leak was just a mockup conversion that was later on digitized and improved by their designers.

 Don Savik wrote:

Pancakey wrote:
How can terminators have 2 wounds?

THEY ARE SO TINY!!!!

So my best friend gets banned on his first post for agreeing with a comment of mine because paranoid Peregrine thinks its a puppet account I created just to agree with myself (?)

Meanwhile this recently created obvious troll just gets to shout nonsense all day without any fact-checking, whining about anything and everything. Nothing happens.

Gotta love this site.

I am sorry your friend got banned. There is no reason to take it out on me.

Also "new" my acct has a few days on it.

Back on topic ...

Do you think this is the first step to replacing all marine models?

 Grand.Master.Raziel wrote:


Still, you got to admit, they look better than Centurions.

low bar, what i picked up after my dog on our walk this morning looked better than centurions, but I admit I do like these numarine models and will likely pick up a few kits esp if they come in a starter box.

Is anyone else stepping back and appreciating how weak a TAC squad is now?

"And they shall know no fear..." and that's really, really good, considering if they did know fear, they'd be crapping their pants as their bullets bounce off Imperial Guardsman's paper armor.

It took 10,000 years to effectively make a marine with 1 extra wound, and a boltgun that is still weaker than 7th edition boltgun. lol..

Ok, just seen the new Dataslate for the Primaris Marines. What I am going to say - I think the Primaris Marines Datasheet bodes well for 8th Edition. These are new models, but they haven't had a bunch of special rules bundled onto them, they haven't been given a huge points discount and they aren't a MUST BUY unit.

If you are looking for a solid line unit, these are your guys. But if not, you have plenty of other units to pick from.

TAC squads were never that great anyway, but they do have the advantage of being able to take special weapons.

What I'm really interested in seeing is Primaris assault units. They could be pretty nasty.

Ah well no need to buy these after all then.