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gungo wrote:
I'm sorry if this has been asked or detailed already but I haven't seen it.
Is there a detachment restriction on the number of chapter tactics you can field in a detachment or army? For i stance can i field white scar bikers and salamander devastators in the same detachment?
Is there any similar restrictions on chapter specific relics or warlord traits or strategems?

you have to take a pure detachment. so the answer is "no"

For those people who asked for it, here's my Primaris to "truescale Devastator" conversion!

He's unfinished and held together mostly by Blu-Tac at this point. I haven't decided what I'm going to put on his hip to cover the damage from removing the helmet that was stored there (considering a bolter), and I'm not sure if I want to keep his slim Primaris-style pistol holster or replace it with a proper meaty bolt pistol. Also he's missing a shoulder pad on his left arm, obviously.

It's kind of a proof of concept. The arms work, albeit with some slight awkwardness (though this was mainly the same difficulty I'd have with normal Marines anyway; getting the arms lined up properly). Primaris Marine arms are the same length and their torsos are the same width, so arms, weapons, backpacks and helmets should all be easily compatible. As I said before, torsos should be slightly compatible in that they could be adapted fairly easily by removing the stunted midsection and used to replace the Mk.X breastplate. Most of the difficulties with doing so will be fixed by the inevitable multi-part Intercessors/Hellblasters/etc.

An interesting nugget someone noticed via att.

"If anyone's interested, the armies that are mentioned in the First Strike starter set (beyond marines and death guard) are the Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau. So that gives, I think, some indication of the next Codexes GW has on deck, besides Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Death Guard."

Cheers!

The main focus is going to be Imperium vs. Chaos. If I were a betting man, I would say Space Wolves and Thousand Sons will be coming in September. Probably Blood Angels and Chaos Daemons after that(Ka'bandha is back and wants some sweet sweet revenge on the sons of Sanguinius). It is hard to say who Dark Angels will be up against, but expect them pretty soon as well. They have pretty much said that Xenos will be waiting a bit.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:
It is hard to say who Dark Angels will be up against

Traitor Legions, featuring The Fallen

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I absolutely LOVE the Desert Eagle model of Bolt Pistol that Chaplain has! Hand Cannon or what?

I think it looks awesome. It's an Absolver Bolt Pistol. 16" Pistol 1 S5 AP -1 D1. Really cool.

Isn't there a rumor about Slaanesh? Could be Dark Angels v/ Slaanesh, since I doubt Fallen will be made to be a full fledged faction.

The Auspex Primaris might make a nice apothecary. Stick some sort of lengthy pistol (I have a lasgun with the symbol on the side removed and a boltgun clip instead of the power pack that might work nicely) in place of the bolt rifle, paint him white and maybe slap some more dangly bits on.

Definitely getting that £5 magazine and the 3 man box now. I actually want to try that.


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Actually, you could convert the other two intercessors to Lieutenants easy enough.

 theharrower wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I absolutely LOVE the Desert Eagle model of Bolt Pistol that Chaplain has! Hand Cannon or what?

I think it looks awesome. It's an Absolver Bolt Pistol. 16" Pistol 1 S5 AP -1 D1. Really cool.

That's actually a pretty cool and fitting name, for once. Far better than the "skull boltstorm religionpistol" I'd expected.

 theharrower wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
I absolutely LOVE the Desert Eagle model of Bolt Pistol that Chaplain has! Hand Cannon or what?

I think it looks awesome. It's an Absolver Bolt Pistol. 16" Pistol 1 S5 AP -1 D1. Really cool.

It's pretty, but I don't get why it can't just be a bolt pistol.


Primaris Marines all having 101 different types of bolt weapons that are better than the normal bolt weapons is just adding pointless complexity to the game for little real benefit.

Damn that Chaplain is the best Primaris model yet, and one of my favourite Marine models ever. Rivals the DA Interrogator Chaplain for sure.

Warhams-77 wrote:
Caius Tadius on B&C forum - a (fragmentary) summary of events found in the new codex

- spoiler warning -

-After the Plague Wars ended with Mortarion escaping, Guilliman spent some time in Ultramar leading the reconstruction, fortification and rebuilding efforts before having to leave again for other parts of the Imperium.

Wait, isn't the campaign that starts next week supposed to be part of the plague wars? Or am I just misunderstanding that?

It feels really weird to take part in a campaign when the ending of it is spoiled in the new codex.

 Gamgee wrote:
An interesting nugget someone noticed via att.

"If anyone's interested, the armies that are mentioned in the First Strike starter set (beyond marines and death guard) are the Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau. So that gives, I think, some indication of the next Codexes GW has on deck, besides Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Death Guard."

Cheers!

"Drukhari"

Who?


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 Galas wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
I need to see a picture of this apothecary now...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/23/faith-fury-and-firepower-space-marines-preview-july23gw-homepage-post-1/

Very nice figure but I thought Primaris marines didn't go for purity seals and other grimdark gothic? I thought they were supposed to be purer and more like the preheresy marines?

Or was a wrong?

you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

Also note that all three purity seals are on little geneseed capsules, so they might be literal purity seals, not metaphoric ones.

BrianDavion wrote:
you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

haha, well.. yours maybe

BrianDavion wrote:
you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

I guess I was tying to find a point for the Primaris...

Something that makes them different from the Secondis, other than bigger and more expensive of course.

But once I saw this dude...



Yeah you're taller marines, that's literally it. With new more trademarkable names for your scouts and assault marines...

If you want the purity seals may represent oaths of moment - pre-heresy marines had those. The thing that rubs me wrong with the apothecary is the fact that he's heroically stepping over a brother marine's armor... Not very mariney... Also, the new chaplain has this weird pose and pistol - not too keen on those aswell

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

I guess I was tying to find a point for the Primaris...

Something that makes them different from the Secondis, other than bigger and more expensive of course.

But once I saw this dude...



Yeah you're taller marines, that's literally it. With new more trademarkable names for your scouts and assault marines...

They're not just bigger.. they're loaded with power creep too
The not-Terminators and not-Assault Marines are armed to the teeth and the taller Dreadnought has something like 12 shots in one configuration. Plus a floating Land Raider.
TBH, the Thunderhawk, which was scene as legendary back in the day, is probably under-armed by a long shot by comparison to most of the units out. If they ever do a plastic kit for it, it'll just be a step up from something like a Valkyrie compared to the Repulsor and whatever is going to follow after.

BertBert wrote:

 Iron_Captain wrote:
Highly doubt it is a business decision. If that'd be the case GW would have made ordinary marines able to use the Repulsor.
They have not, ergo it is most likely a balance or fluff decision.

They also want you to buy Primaris Marines, not only the Repulsor

People who won't buy the Primaris Marines aren't going to buy them just for the Repulsor. If they want people to buy more Primaris then they will release more Primaris Marines. It's that simple. If on the other hand they would have made the Repulsor compatible with normal Marines, I'd bet you they'd be selling a whole lot more. GW isn't stupid, they can do basic math like this. There is no evidence for this being a business decision except people's bias against GW. I get really tired of these conspiracy theories.
Primaris are already selling like hot cates it seems. There is no need for GW to push sales with tactics like that (which most likely do not even work or even have a negative effect on sales).

BrianDavion wrote:
you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

They said on WHTV that they wanted to start the new Primaris range off with less ornamentation to get a good base to work up from. So don't expect that trend to continue, they'll get their bling.

"Your tall guys can't get in your old tank, you need to buy a new one..."


Noooo, not a business decision at all... ;-)

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Yeah you're taller marines, that's literally it. With new more trademarkable names for your scouts and assault marines...

You see taller Marines. I see different scale Marines.

I think that Chaplain is ace BTW. Really good model. Shame it was created for a non-existent 35mm-40mm version of 40K.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
An interesting nugget someone noticed via att.

"If anyone's interested, the armies that are mentioned in the First Strike starter set (beyond marines and death guard) are the Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau. So that gives, I think, some indication of the next Codexes GW has on deck, besides Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Death Guard."

Cheers!

"Drukhari"

Who?

The new name for the Dark Eldar

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Yeah you're taller marines, that's literally it. With new more trademarkable names for your scouts and assault marines...

You see taller Marines. I see different scale Marines.

I think that Chaplain is ace BTW. Really good model. Shame it was created for a non-existent 35mm-40mm version of 40K.

Actually, I'd argue that GW has been making 35mm - 40mm figures for decades. They just have their abdomens removed to bring them down to the "28mm" size.

The Primaris marines unfortunately still suffer this malady, but it is far less extreme on them.

~Eric

Pretty sure that "barn door after the horse has bolted" conversations about Primaris scale aren't on topic. ;-)

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Spoiler:

Very nice figure but I thought Primaris marines didn't go for purity seals and other grimdark gothic? I thought they were supposed to be purer and more like the preheresy marines?

Or was a wrong?

These are just name tags.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
you're wrong they do have purity seals, but they do tend to have less ostentation. if you look at a Primaris Marine the only ornmentation he's likely to have is a purity seal somewhere, as opposed to a tatical marine whom might have a buncha skulls etc

I guess I was tying to find a point for the Primaris...

Something that makes them different from the Secondis, other than bigger and more expensive of course.

But once I saw this dude...

Spoiler:

Carrying straps (and a forgotten price tag on the holster).

These are the new practical minded Marines - look at the ergonomic handle on the Apothecary's reading light. Or the Chaplain's weather-proofed leather coat he wears instead of the usual robes.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
An interesting nugget someone noticed via att.

"If anyone's interested, the armies that are mentioned in the First Strike starter set (beyond marines and death guard) are the Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau. So that gives, I think, some indication of the next Codexes GW has on deck, besides Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Death Guard."

Cheers!

"Drukhari"

Who?

The host of an american comedy TV show.
"Welcome to GW, where the names are made up and the game's history doesn't matter."

An interesting nugget someone noticed via att.

"If anyone's interested, the armies that are mentioned in the First Strike starter set (beyond marines and death guard) are the Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau. So that gives, I think, some indication of the next Codexes GW has on deck, besides Grey Knights, Chaos Space Marines and Death Guard."

Cheers!

Supposed to be 10 codex's before Christmas:

1, Grey Knights
2. Chaos Space Marines
3. Death Guard

leaves 7, maybe 8 more: Astra Militarum, AdMech, Knights, Craftworlds, Drukhari, Orks, Necrons, Tyranids (and Gene Cult) and Tau - that's ten right there and that's assuming that there are no more Marines dexes - I am expecting at least Space Wolves and Thousand Sons

I would guess its more like:

1, Grey Knights
2. Chaos Space Marines
3. Death Guard
4. Orks (usually early dex)
5. Space Wolves (they love these guys and their wacky wolfy wolf wolfiness)
6. Thousand Sons (new model range)
7. Eldar (Craftworlds) (Tend to be early)
8. Dark Angels (Gotta keep the Marine dexes flowing - sigh
9. Tyranids (because they lead into........
10. Blood Angels
11. Primarius (Gotta make more new Marine models)

Rest won't a sausage until 2018 - although they may switch round the Xenos races and the order. So that's Ad Mech Tau, Necrons, Guard, Knights, Agents, Genestealers, Dark Eldar....,

I think Imperial Guard might be after death guard, actually. They did mention their codex in an article recently, which I think is a hint of what's to come.
Going by the initial releases, it seems they are following a pattern of 2 codices per index.