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True, I would have thought they'd be AUD$560....at the very minimum.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Why in God's name would anyone pay AUD$70 for 3 mono-pose Marines and a White Dwarf article?

They are 3 exclusive sculpts with art cards a a designer booklet, in other words 3 marines and some paper. You can't get them from ebay or discount sellers, and have to pay GWs shipping instead of the free shipping offered on ebay for many items. GW is testing how much we are willing to shell out for this kind of stuff, when really they should be 20 USD at most. Funny thing is I haven't bought from GW direct in 3 years, and bought DI off ebay for less than 130 dollars new. I know GW is trying to get me to pull the trigger on 3 exclusive sculpts but I ain't going for it. They are trying to milk the people who 'have' to have this kind of stuff.

I bought First Strike for the "exclusive" sculpts (Ok just for the Poxwalker with hammer-hands. It was beautifull), but they aren't gonna catch me with this... no sir.

Uhh... Jesus, fine:

Who in their right mind would pay US$40 for 3 mono-pose Marines and a White Dwarf article?

 Galas wrote:
I think the helmets in those guys are pretty dope, the Melta-guy helmet specially. But paying HQ prices for 3 slighly different marines than the monoposes from the Starter?

The Meltagun guy is very nice. Why does he cost as much as a clampack character?

The webexclusive brethren don't look that cool, I'll just get the first strike box instead, it's the same price, but includes reivers++ :<
But can they release that tank already? DDDD: SO IMPATIENT.

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 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:

But I will probably pass on Morty and look for a much cheaper proxy for him.

Well even the FW one is cheaper. What a time to be alive..

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

 Imateria wrote:

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

For me is not a bug, is a feature. I am kinda sick of these un-transportable huge models.
But you have a point about the price.

This may be the first time EVER I go for the collectors edition (if available), plus Mortarion and new daemon engines are going to set me back a tad...

Price on Mortarion is a bit of a strange point. On the one hand, I'm pretty surprised that he costs more than Magnus, who is pretty comparative in size.

On the other hand, it's a tough position for GW as with something like this they are only really going to sell it to modelers (sp?) and DG players, so the target is limited and thus it would be harder to recoup their costs on it. On the flip side of that coin though the same argument could be made for Magnus. I dunno. My friend will get one either way.

Well, seeing as I accepted Magnus' insane cost in AUS which is $220 (lol) the $230 (lol) for Mortarion is fine for me. I didn't get Magnus, but I'm going to let someone buy the crap out of Mortarion for my Birthday.

Hmmm...

Very unexpected to see the plague brethren kit. I might be willing to fork over more cash than I've already spent if they were truly unique models but somehow the fact that they are mirror images of DI models with minor cosmetic differences bothers me. The price point is of course unrealistic, but I can see why they are pushing these models now; likely when the MPP kit comes out all of the unique elements like the helms and weapon bits will be part of the kit and you'll be able to pretty much build these guys up for pennies on the dollar.

I find it hard to believe that they won't have a melta gun as an option in the MPP kit.

Hang in there folks, we are so close now, I can smell the rotting flesh.

Well, I'll get ol' Morty one-forty at some point, but that is a lot for one figure that you'll rarely use. Would love it if he came with some sort of alt bits so we could make him up as a demon prince, or perhaps some fun nurgly bits which could be added to troops or vehicles (more than he already has anyway).

Though it's a bit of a limited release, we should prepare ourselves for the inevitable 'rebox release' where they release all those DI Deathguard characters and unit as separate kits. I could see one week of 'just that', and then push all the new stuff back even farther... Or maybe they'll split the reboxes between the new stuff, or after everything else, we can only hope.

I'm down for a collector's ed. codex, as I've always wanted a Deathguard (or rather, plague marines) army book since 2nd ed. Not sure about that web exclusive set though, I like the figures, but that's a lot for 3 guys, and I have PILES of Plague marines with meltas already.

I really want to see what kind of CC stuff we get with the new plague marine kits, I hope there's a bunch of plague knives, as I want to equip a bunch of marines with them.

Looks like aside from the deathshroud, the other termies have combi-type weapons, so they should pair well with my unbuilt forgeworld plague marine termies.

Do you think we'll get a new Plague caster, plague caller(? the dude with the bell from DI), and Lord of Contagion? I'm guessing they'll just rebox the ones from DI, but It'd be nice if there were more elaborate kits.

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

For me is not a bug, is a feature. I am kinda sick of these un-transportable huge models.
But you have a point about the price.

While I agree, you would have to make sure that your stand in is about the same size if you wanted to use the rules.

Any info on the tank and other new units' rules in the DG battle report?

The battle reports in this issue of White Dwarf do not feature DG.

Warhams-77 wrote:
The battle reports in this issue of White Dwarf do not feature DG.

Oh I read somewhere they did. thanks!

No problem, you may have confused it with the battle report in the Getting Started 40k book from back in July which showed the Plagueburst tank in a battle report. I havent read it yet but there wasnt much new info about it afaik

Warhams-77 wrote:
No problem, you may have confused it with the battle report in the Getting Started 40k book from back in July which showed the Plagueburst tank in a battle report. I havent read it yet but there wasnt much new info about it afaik

Spoiler:

nope but thanks for showing them again! it's all feeding my hype

Am I the only one who hates nurglings? Im disghusted by their ability to transform any nurgle miniature into comic relief clown trash. I know I can remove them, but the idea that GW has planted will remain.

Nurgle is about death and decay and horrible fates where the only relief is to become even more horrible. There can even be some good old morbid humour, like Nurgles circus from mordheim, but those guys are still gonna go up to you and punch a hole through your esophagus. These nurglings flying around mortarion etz are just cutsey trash that appeal to school girl anime furry friends.

FudgeDumper wrote:
Am I the only one who hates nurglings? Im disghusted by their ability to transform any nurgle miniature into comic relief clown trash. I know I can remove them, but the idea that GW has planted will remain.

Nurgle is about death and decay and horrible fates where the only relief is to become even more horrible. There can even be some good old morbid humour, like Nurgles circus from mordheim, but those guys are still gonna go up to you and punch a hole through your esophagus. These nurglings flying around mortarion etz are just cutsey trash that appeal to school girl anime furry friends.

I can't tell if you're joking or if you genuinely have no idea how Grandfather Nurgle was portrayed over the years.

FudgeDumper wrote:
a hole through your esophagus. These nurglings flying around mortarion etz are just cutsey trash that appeal to school girl anime furry friends.

TIL they were trying to appeal to anime furry trends in the 80s





Nurglings have been around for a very long time and have always been based off of Nurgle. This is not new.

I will say that the nurglings on Mortarion's model are stupid and should be removed. They clash far too much with his image/model.

The normal nurgling bases have always been silly/odd...not that I enjoy that very much. I feel like GW is a bit conflicted as to how they should portrary Nurgle, etc. (particularly highlighted by the hillbilly snot-caravan driver from that new Warhammer Blight thing).

FudgeDumper wrote:
Am I the only one who hates nurglings? Im disghusted by their ability to transform any nurgle miniature into comic relief clown trash. I know I can remove them, but the idea that GW has planted will remain.

Nurgle is about death and decay and horrible fates where the only relief is to become even more horrible. There can even be some good old morbid humour, like Nurgles circus from mordheim, but those guys are still gonna go up to you and punch a hole through your esophagus. These nurglings flying around mortarion etz are just cutsey trash that appeal to school girl anime furry friends.

Nurgle isn't only about death and decay. He's also about life and rebirth, about joyfulness and almost parental affection... from The Lost and The Damned (1990):

"Yet in character the Greater Daemon is neither deathlike nor morbid. In fact the opposite is true, Great Unclean Ones are motivated by all the trivial human enthusiasms which drive the living. They are ebullient and vociferous, full of a natural enthusiasm to organise and achieve. They are driven by a gregarious and even sentimental nature and hold their followers dear, even referring to them as their 'Children' and taking a noticeable pride in their appearance and endearing behaviour. "

As you can see, Nurgle and his followers are not all grimdark and brooding.

Some other choice bits:

"...the squealing, screaming, chattering and bickering of the Nurglings was beyond mere human imagining. A million unruly school children left to their own devices could not even begin to rival the anarchy or intensity of that daemonic din."

"the Nurglings chatter and prance like small children about to embark upon a special treat. They squabble and squirm, snigger and squeal, and their numbers increase and diminish beyond the Plaguebearers' ability to count them. Amid the general hullaballoo and sense of anticipation, the overly affectionate Beasts of Nurgle jump uncontrollably from Plaguebearer to Plaguebearer, like excitable puppies leaving pools of dribble and slime as they pass. "

It's always been this way. Mortarion might be all doom and gloom but his God and it's demons certainly aren't!

Yeah, the thing about Nurgle is that even though he's the god of despair, he's actually fairly jovial and is probably the most benign chaos god.

All of those diseases he inflicts on people is just his way of trying to help people, by trying to toughen them up and make them feel better about their existence, as if you are infected by a bunch of horrible diseases, what else can you feel bad about?
Despair can also be interpreted as the the absence of hope and motivation. Also remember that Nurgle the god of Stagnation and decay.
Everything sucks, everything will continue to suck, so why bother trying? Just relax and enjoy life as it is, no matter how horrible it is.

In a nutshell, this




Nurgle is probably the most interesting god in terms of theme, due to all of those little nuances.

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

For me is not a bug, is a feature. I am kinda sick of these un-transportable huge models.
But you have a point about the price.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you're saying that you'd rather use Forgeworlds Mortarion in place of the plastic Daemon Primarck Mortarion then I'd refuse to play you, it would be the epittomy of modeling for advantage.

I have to admit I can understand people not liking tentacles and/or Nurglings on their models in general, but thinking these elements should not be part of a NURGLE model is like saying Space Marine models should not be equipped with bolters because you dont like their aesthetic. Makes no sense to me tbh

Given the way he's moving the smoke coming from his back should be going the other way. I can deal with GW prices but mistakes like this just put me off.

Nurgle has never really been about death and decay. Even in the 80's his champions were fatties.

 Imateria wrote:

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

For me is not a bug, is a feature. I am kinda sick of these un-transportable huge models.
But you have a point about the price.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you're saying that you'd rather use Forgeworlds Mortarion in place of the plastic Daemon Primarck Mortarion then I'd refuse to play you, it would be the epittomy of modeling for advantage.

I would not be interested in play with someone like this anyway, probably, if this is the first thing that came in your mind.
Also, I would give it some kick-ass base or use some other device to make it more "visible". I tend to play with people with a tad bit of common sense.

 Imateria wrote:

 Kaiyanwang wrote:

 Imateria wrote:

And is less than half the size. Lets not even pretend that Great Crusade Morty is even remotely equatable to Daemon Primark Morty.

For me is not a bug, is a feature. I am kinda sick of these un-transportable huge models.
But you have a point about the price.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. If you're saying that you'd rather use Forgeworlds Mortarion in place of the plastic Daemon Primarck Mortarion then I'd refuse to play you, it would be the epittomy of modeling for advantage.

& here's me thinking about using a 1st ed Blood Thirster so I can hide him behind, well, anything really!!

Bad bubber!

(ps - not my mini)

nurgle really is a unique theme to try and decide on.
you can go all morbid death and decay or fun and odd.

hell, the poxwalkers are all smiling so something must be fun on the other side of that rift.

look at the plaguebearers in the DI novel.
they invaded the hospital planet singing and dancing.