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 skullking wrote:


Can someone confirm, does Rotigus have a second head, or is that a face in his left arm?

Yup, armpit face!

timd wrote:
So does the Rotigus head, sword right arm, Rotigus left arm with the chain flail added sound like a good plan?

That said, the body looks like Michelin Man/Stay Puft marshmallow man gone to Nurgle. Dissappointed. Converted Glotkin it will be...

T

 Kanluwen wrote:
"Rotigus", the new character Great Unclean One.

Spoiler:

The two other builds.

They're getting rules in the Chaos Daemons codex to "update" it.

Its about the same as the FW GUO though a bit less texture though no less in the cut gut department. digging the mouth version .

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

 Desubot wrote:


Its about the same as the FW GUO though a bit less texture though no less in the cut gut department. digging the mouth version .

WAY less texture and than the FW model or even the current (sold out in the USA!) GUO. Detail is also MUCH finer/intricate on the FW model.

http://fantasygames.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/unclean-1.jpg

T

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

timd wrote:

 Desubot wrote:


Its about the same as the FW GUO though a bit less texture though no less in the cut gut department. digging the mouth version .

WAY less texture and than the FW model or even the current (sold out in the USA!) GUO. Detail is also MUCH finer/intricate on the FW model.

http://fantasygames.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/unclean-1.jpg

T

Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.

glotkin conversions also looks cool as well though asides from the extra horns seem to have as much texture as the new guy. its probably a limitation on plastic injection moulds.

timd wrote:

 Desubot wrote:


Its about the same as the FW GUO though a bit less texture though no less in the cut gut department. digging the mouth version .

WAY less texture and than the FW model or even the current (sold out in the USA!) GUO. Detail is also MUCH finer/intricate on the FW model.

http://fantasygames.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/unclean-1.jpg

T

Yeah, I really liked the new GUO on first impression. Still do. But the issue I'd have is that next to my pre-existing FW GUO it's just going to look too toyish. I'm still tempted, but it's not the auto buy it might have been if I don't have a fully painted FW one in my cabinet.


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 Desubot wrote:


Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.

Undoubtedly cheaper, but the last GD was the Lord Of Change at £70. Given GW's policy of building rises into new releases, we can reasonably expect the GUO to be a bit more, maybe £75/80?

Now, the FW one is currently £125, so a good chunk more, but I'd contend we're in the price range where if people have committed mentally to spending ~£75 then the leap to spending £125 isn't huge, especially given the difference in pricing policies benefits people living in countries where their domestic currency is strong against the pound more for FW than it does for GW.

This'll undoubtedly sell loads because of the lower price, greater exposure, ease of access and the fact it is a nice model, but I can see more than one buyer thinking "feth it, I'll spend the extra and get the FW one."

JSG wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.

No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.

Ruin wrote:

JSG wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.

No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.

It looks like its just hanging over his hand like any other flail.

you could always model it falling foward instead of over his hand.

 Desubot wrote:


Well different strokes different folks, on the bright side you could always add texture and plastic is probably going to be far cheaper than the fw one.

glotkin conversions also looks cool as well though asides from the extra horns seem to have as much texture as the new guy. its probably a limitation on plastic injection moulds.

Point taken.

I love the detail on the FW version, but don't like the pose at all, so its out. Similar pose on the new one is not winning any points either. Took a closer look at the at the Glottkin todya and the detail is far more interesting and varied on different parts of the model. Detail on the new one seems to be very similar over the whole model. Detail on the Glottkin also seems to resolve to a finer level.

Different strokes...

T

timd wrote:

Point taken.

I love the detail on the FW version, but don't like the pose at all, so its out. Similar pose on the new one is not winning any points either. Took a closer look at the at the Glottkin todya and the detail is far more interesting and varied on different parts of the model. Detail on the new one seems to be very similar over the whole model. Detail on the Glottkin also seems to resolve to a finer level.

Different strokes...

T

I think the back on the new one might be more interesting. i saw the one with the giant pot but i think its similarly done as the fw one with the bones exposed.

edit nvm that was a tree.

Aww, I hoped the scythe option someone speculated about would turn out to be true. I prefer the FW one. The face especially, but the hooded head is very nice, too. I never bought the FW one and it might get another price increase or two. I'm not in a hurry to buy a GUO of any sort, however, I got Ghurk cheap-ish to convert into a GUO one day. With the sword bits from this one that is even easier now. If the character one had a scythe it'd a no-brainer.


That Nurgling knight, though. I already have one converted with shield and all, but this one has to join his buddy!

Ruin wrote:

JSG wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.

No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.

Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

If you look closely you can see the bottom of the handle coming down from his fist. The chains are just draped over his hand.

Definitely a flail.

That GUO color style reminded me social ads about health care and stuff.



And I don't think that is a bad thing - at least for nurgle. Otherwise how would you promote a truly realisticly disgusting army?
How many people REALLY do like those real-life atrocities?
I think not a lot of them.

But if you inspect new nurgle-related miniatures you would notice that it's just a matter of painting style. To make some rot or rust you just tone done colors. Heavy use of pygments and washes will do the trick.

ohhh man...I absolutely love all 3 builds...and with a little tinkering, there could probably easily be more variation

...this is not good, as it means I now very badly want 3 of that kit, and it will probably be expensive!

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Ruin wrote:

JSG wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. [MOD EDIT - RULE #1 - Alpharius]. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.

No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.

Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?

Seeing as I got downvoted to hell yesterday on there for even daring to suggest exactly what has been stated in this thread by multiple posters ref- colour scheme and there being nicer 3rd party models out there I'd say I'm entirely justified in feeling this seems to represent the online 40k community at large right now. Don'tcha dare say anything that can be perceived as a swipe at sweet lady GW and their Lord and saviour Duncan. Oh, no.

What's that? I asked a question that hinted that GW may be screwing over existing GUO owners be making their models be illegally equipped? TO THE BATTLEMENTS!

Ruin wrote:

 MonkeyBallistic wrote:

Ruin wrote:

JSG wrote:

Ruin wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Where is this confirmed?

The "flail" looks awfully shield-like to me.

Everyone else in the thread has functioning eyes.

Ah the old snarky comments. No different from Reddit. feth off mate. It looks like a buckler strapped to the back of his hand. Like a shield is. I'm 99% sure it's a flail but I get insulted for making a cautious observation.

No wonder I don't like posting much on N&R if all we get is more examples of 40k's toxic community.

Your response to one person insulting you is to insult an entire community?

Seeing as I got downvoted to hell yesterday on there for even daring to suggest exactly what has been stated in this thread by multiple posters ref- colour scheme and there being nicer 3rd party models out there I'd say I'm entirely justified in feeling this seems to represent the online 40k community at large right now. Don'tcha dare say anything that can be perceived as a swipe at sweet lady GW and their Lord and saviour Duncan. Oh, no.

What's that? I asked a question that hinted that GW may be screwing over existing GUO owners be making their models be illegally equipped? TO THE BATTLEMENTS!

...because nobody criticises GW?...yes...of course...that sounds exactly like the 40k community....yeah....

you weren't being disagreed with for "criticising GW"...you were being disagreed with because...in no bloody way does that flail look like a shield. it is clearly a flail, much like the old one has...more to the point, why on earth would they give a GUO a shield option? he doesn't exactly need one...and even if by some bizarre moon-logic, it is a shield...it's not a very bloody good shield design, is it?...it'd be about as effective a shield as wearing brass knuckles!

RULE #1 is BE POLITE.

RULE #2 is STAY ON TOPIC.

Any more of what we've had in the last few posts will net the offending parties some time off...

Getting back on topic then... If day 1 was a teaser and day 2 is the GUO then days 3-7 must be: Tree, Beasts, Mounted Blightkin and Heralds.

Doesn't particularly interest me since I don't play Age of Sigmar nor do I play Nurgle Daemons, are we expecting anything else for New Year's or is this it? (Not complaining, it's a nice meaty models release but, as I said, doesn't particularly interest me - only thing I might get for my army would be a GUO but I still prefer the FW one)

Another tick in the GW box compared to the FW one is that it will be almost half the price.

The models, AoS battletome and 40k codex should be released in January - February. I havent followed Malign Portents closely. I guess that will come before, available to preorder next week or so.

Gotta agree on the Nurgle paint schemes in general... that being said, they obviously don't want to make them so gross that mommy won't buy them.

GUO looks good to me, in line with the recent GD sculpts, stayed close to the widely praised FW model. I think it will be possible to do some really great paintwork with it, and some really quick but good paintwork too. They really went all-in on Nurgle it seems, pretty shocking amount of minis for the line. Would I be nuts to say Nurgle has gotten more love than primaris in the past 6 months?

Any idea what the thing in the background on the wallpaper image is? Looks to me like a large head with really thick broken off horns. Is it the Rotigus version of the GUO? Or Scabby? Something else entirely? Or maybe I'm just seeing things.

 Azreal13 wrote:


Undoubtedly cheaper, but the last GD was the Lord Of Change at £70. Given GW's policy of building rises into new releases, we can reasonably expect the GUO to be a bit more, maybe £75/80?

Now, the FW one is currently £125, so a good chunk more, but I'd contend we're in the price range where if people have committed mentally to spending ~£75 then the leap to spending £125 isn't huge, especially given the difference in pricing policies benefits people living in countries where their domestic currency is strong against the pound more for FW than it does for GW.

This'll undoubtedly sell loads because of the lower price, greater exposure, ease of access and the fact it is a nice model, but I can see more than one buyer thinking "feth it, I'll spend the extra and get the FW one."

As lord of change was sold at the same price as blood thirster I trully hope great unclean one will be 70 pounds retail price. And this is my second point: when comparing prices you should consider it is very easy to find it at 20 and even 25 percent discount... so maybe 52 pounds with postage included, instead of 125 pounds more postage... so almost a third of forgeworld price! So ok forge world one is a masterpiece while gw one is more cartoonish but it is also more in style with the actual release and also more customizable.

Glotkin... I never liked

The rip in the right arm makes me think of fat guy in a little coat.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Yup.


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As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Yup.


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As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.

An interesting theory- not sure whats it's based on, as it was never an issue before when they did exactly that, nor for other parties that enjoy wallowing in that kind of thing.
Decay in all its nauseating splendor is one of the hooks of the zombie fetish after all, and that's currently very strong again.

I figure the Eavy Metal paintjobs are done with the express purpose of delivering a clean, clear visual representation of the model and all it's details, so that everything stands out and can be seen quickly and clearly, to help sell the model - this is effectively advertising, not a regular hobbyist army paint scheme

if they covered the thing in assorted grotesque, mottled decay effects and filth, the model's details wouldn't stand out nearly as much, so to newer hobbyists, or to those in the community that are less hobby-minded, who can't mentally deconstruct a paintjob and see the blank canvas as well as more experienced/hobby-minded people, it would be harder to see exactly what you're getting, and probably therefore, a harder sell...maybe?

Voss wrote:

 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Current GUO load out is sword and flail, which the new kit has options for.

Yup.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
As for paint schemes, GW paints Nurgle daemons in very fantastical, artistic colors traditionally used yo represent decay rather than actual ones. Intentionally or no this is a wise choice because humans have an instinctive revulsion to the actual thing. If painters with the skill of Eavy Metal put their minds to actual gangrenous colors sales would undoubtedly be lower, likely MUCH lower.

An interesting theory- not sure whats it's based on, as it was never an issue before when they did exactly that, nor for other parties that enjoy wallowing in that kind of thing.
Decay in all its nauseating splendor is one of the hooks of the zombie fetish after all, and that's currently very strong again.

Well the really old paint jobs were far more cartoony, while the paint jobs on the last generation of metal minis were darker but still far from what gangrenous flesh really looks like. Not to mention the model and paint quality was simply not as good as today. And honestly I think the majority of players could handle it perfectly well, but even turning away something like 10% of would-be buyers is a huge hit. Subconscious repulsion could easily account for that much imo.