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Downside: it is a resin model and that means FW......


Allso a new scenario on the WC site with dense cloudes speacial rule.

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So they're going to soft-kill the game the way they're working on doing to LotR? Move all the new stuff to Forge World?

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 AnomanderRake wrote:
So they're going to soft-kill the game the way they're working on doing to LotR? Move all the new stuff to Forge World?


taking the same route as AT i guess. 80-90% is GW and plastic, rest is FW and resin.
plus the content in the new 2p box is all plastic.

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I hate resin with a passion but at least its not metal D:

Dunno how I feel about AI so not sure ill jump in on this. I love the idea, and am a big fan of grid/hex based games but theres just so much in AI that feel rushed and not very well thought out. Feels like a second-hand product even from the beginning and thats not convincing :/

For such a simplistic game it feels so clunky to play :/


Amazing models though. Just wish the bases wasnt ugly enough to ruin the entire model XD
   
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Plastic Avenger Strike Fighters.
I do like the look of these.

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That have gone away from the original range a bit here....

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Avengers!

Those Voss pattern Lightning strike fighters will match nicely with Adeptus Titanicus once it all merges into Epic 30k.

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 Easy E wrote:
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That have gone away from the original range a bit here....


Well the avengers didn't exist in 40k scale when the original version of AI was a thing.
   
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 Easy E wrote:
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That have gone away from the original range a bit here....


and it seems they continue that.
2nd resin forgeworld plane for imp is a noncombat transport plane: Arvus Lighter. transport 3, speed 6, ace 1-6, point cost:10. special rule: when it has depolyed its cargo it may voluntarily disengage as if it was the disengagement turn.





allso we have been given a new free scenario.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2bf07caf.pdf


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Sweet! Argus outnumbering spam exists in the new rules too!

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I love the 40k scale version so I guess I gotta buy it. with the vendetta, arvus, and a couple of Titanicus items I might be able to get an actua FWl order that's worthwhile.
   
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Is it possible to merge Adeptus Titanicus with Aeronautica Imperialis, or are the scales too different?
   
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scales the same so not that big of a deal.

the only thing that would be an issue is the interaction between the two.
   
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The miniatures are the same scale, but the speeds are so different it’s not funny. Think three or four rounds of Aeronautica per turn of AT and you’re getting there, never mind the impracticality of having an arbitrary grid applied over TLoS 3D terrain.

Basically you either have to turn all flyers into helicopters like 40k does or you have to reduce them to strafing runs like Epic Armageddon did.

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Merging doesn't work at all, way different systems. You could have two games interacting, like having an AI game where one side goes for bombing runs (drops munitions on the AT table as Strafing Run stratagem or bigger) every turn unless stopped by the other airforce.

The other option is to use the miniatures and play Epic / Apocalypse in 6 mm, where the systems are better adapted to handling such variation in size. AT and AI are both too focused on showing their own thing well that they'd play well alongside others in general.

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Thanks for the replies everyone! Awesome, I may see about incorporating them as people have suggested (e.g. strafing runs).
   
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Since there will be no new scenario this month, they instead gave us the full rules for Tau tigershark and imp avenger.






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I like the TS, but the drones seem so lackluster

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Shooting in any (downward) direction is a pretty hefty bonus, it's good that they provide a bit more punch rather than act as main guns.

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Hi guys,

Help needed. I was wondering how big exactly the difference between the old and new models is exactly. For example: How big is the old Forgeworld resin Thunderbolt compared to its new plastic counterpart?

Do you guys have some pics to show comparing the sizes?

I'm speculating that the new ones are about 25% bigger, is that a correct estimation?


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It's significant, but as long as you are using a hex based map, you should be okay with the old stuff until you decide to upgrade.


 
   
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 Malika2 wrote:
Hi guys,

Help needed. I was wondering how big exactly the difference between the old and new models is exactly. For example: How big is the old Forgeworld resin Thunderbolt compared to its new plastic counterpart?

Do you guys have some pics to show comparing the sizes?

I'm speculating that the new ones are about 25% bigger, is that a correct estimation?


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its big difference.


old models can ofc be used, but you must use the new bases as the new bases allso are bigger then the old bases, and the game plays on hex grid board.
you prolly have to find some 3rd party seller for the bases as they are not sold seperatly.

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The smaller base size makes no difference to how the game is played. They would fit in the hexes, and those hexes are used for all measuring.

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About 30% increase?

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 FrozenDwarf wrote:


old models can ofc be used, but you must use the new bases as the new bases allso are bigger then the old bases, and the game plays on hex grid board.
you prolly have to find some 3rd party seller for the bases as they are not sold seperatly.


And since it plays on a hex grid, the base size is absolutely irrelevant. The info on the dials is the important thing and the old ones contain all that the new ones have. It doesn't matter at all.

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then i stand corrected.
i interpit rules directly as they are written, sometimes that casues me problems.

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How much larger are the bases compared to the old ones, at a glance it looks like they've not been scaled up at quite the same rate?
   
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The new hexes are 2 inches across; the bases are just a bit smaller than that.
   
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The base size isn't that important... what really matters are the small dials having the same numbers.

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Well, that's pretty simple. The current edition altitude dial goes from 1-5, and the speed from 0-9. That's the info for the new edition dials, besides having the firing arcs on them.
   
 
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