Could today's millennials handle a draft if WW3 were to happen?

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**LordofHats**

daedalus wrote:
LordofHats wrote:
I think the real irony is that literally everything worth noting about this stupidly insulting question was said on page one, but not only did the thread keep going it got necro'd a month later so a few posters could just keep throwing out insults. For supposedly not being as lazy as my generation some people apparently didn't take the five minutes required to read the first 10 responses before posting

It's not because the older people are lazy, though that might be a contributing factor. See, I think the problem is they're so plugged into their smartphones and their facebook and social media and stuff, and even though someone's already said it, they gotta chime in and say it too, because they're such conceited SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES that they think that their opinion matters more than the last person who said it, so they want to say it again, pages later hopefully after everyone else forgot the original point, to make themselves seem self-important. They think they're entitled to it for some reason.

Oh, I just figured out why: They're not like millennials. Millennials know they're not important or special, because they get reminded of it literally constantly via almost every form of major modern media. Millennials suck and they know it. They're just acting like that at this point to piss everyone else off. The other generations just got coddled into accepting that they're special though, and got pandered to by the media in their generations, obviously.

Have an exalt.

**trexmeyer**

Ouze wrote:
KingCracker wrote:
Thats some new slang to me, "Waiver from a full bird" whats a full bird?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_(United_States)

I'm kind of surprised Americans don't know this...

**LordofHats**

I could see people unfamiliar with the military not knowing. I only know because my dad was one. I can't remember specifically ever hearing anyone outside the military sphere using the term.

**NinthMusketeer**

daedalus wrote:
LordofHats wrote:
I think the real irony is that literally everything worth noting about this stupidly insulting question was said on page one, but not only did the thread keep going it got necro'd a month later so a few posters could just keep throwing out insults. For supposedly not being as lazy as my generation some people apparently didn't take the five minutes required to read the first 10 responses before posting

It's not because the older people are lazy, though that might be a contributing factor. See, I think the problem is they're so plugged into their smartphones and their facebook and social media and stuff, and even though someone's already said it, they gotta chime in and say it too, because they're such conceited SPECIAL SNOWFLAKES that they think that their opinion matters more than the last person who said it, so they want to say it again, pages later hopefully after everyone else forgot the original point, to make themselves seem self-important. They think they're entitled to it for some reason.

Oh, I just figured out why: They're not like millennials. Millennials know they're not important or special, because they get reminded of it literally constantly via almost every form of major modern media. Millennials suck and they know it. They're just acting like that at this point to piss everyone else off. The other generations just got coddled into accepting that they're special though, and got pandered to by the media in their generations, obviously.

Wait, I thought we were back to spewing crap? Is this a serious or sarcastic response to my comment? To be clear; I was not being serious when I posted it.

**daedalus**

As a rule, I try to keep from doing anything BUT spew crap.

I can't tell if the fact that it's impossible to tell anymore makes it even funnier, or the saddest thing I've ever heard.

**feeder**

The entire premise of this thread is pure unadulterated pig vomit. Everyone's participating to the best of their ability.

**KingCracker**

Ouze wrote:
KingCracker wrote:
Thats some new slang to me, "Waiver from a full bird" whats a full bird?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonel_(United_States)

Ahhhh now that makes sense. Thabk ya

**Dreadwinter**

Spinner wrote:
techsoldaten wrote:
One of his test questions is about video games, not going to share but it's basically about knowing names of characters. People who know the answer get sent to the Army recruiter.

That seems...irrelevant to the job.

Well, do you really want your Marines to have a good memory and love attention to detail? How are they going to screw up so they can get yelled at?

They can go be the best they can be in the Army!

I am 100% calling horsegak on this. How and why would that be even remotely relevant?

**NinthMusketeer**

feeder wrote:
The entire premise of this thread is pure unadulterated pig vomit. Everyone's participating to the best of their ability.

FWIW I'm not treating this seriously nor putting much effort into crappery, because like you said it isn't a rational premise in the first place, and the people who subscribe to it aren't worth the effort. Like global warming deniers I'm happy to wait and watch reality catch up to deliver a well-earned dose of karma.

**A Town Called Malus**

Compel wrote:
The last time we had a draft was World War 2.

The last time someone in my family fought on the battlefield was World War 1. My Great Grandfather, on my mothers side.

Even during the draft, my grandparents weren't soldiers. Instead, one was a manager in a munitions factory. The other? Built Fighter Planes (I want to say Hurricanes, but don't quote me on that).

That Simpsons joke, pretty much accurate. Millennials, Xillennials, whoever, they have skills that may be required in National Service, they'll do their jobs.

My Great Grandfather on my fathers side served in World War One. He enlisted in 1914, as an Irish national he was safe from conscription. During the Battle of Passchendaele his arm was blown off and he was left, buried alive in mud, for over a day until he was found.

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LordofHats wrote:
I could see people unfamiliar with the military not knowing. I only know because my dad was one. I can't remember specifically ever hearing anyone outside the military sphere using the term.

I think I learned it from M*A*S*H

**CthuluIsSpy**

techsoldaten wrote:

My cousin recruits for the Marines and said the washout rate spiked about 5 years ago. His unit screens for a variety of red flags that go beyond physical / mental fitness, they are mostly social. One of his test questions is about video games, not going to share but it's basically about knowing names of characters. People who know the answer get sent to the Army recruiter.

I don't understand, if they know who the characters are they don't get recruited, or they do? Seems...oddly specific.

**feeder**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
techsoldaten wrote:

My cousin recruits for the Marines and said the washout rate spiked about 5 years ago. His unit screens for a variety of red flags that go beyond physical / mental fitness, they are mostly social. One of his test questions is about video games, not going to share but it's basically about knowing names of characters. People who know the answer get sent to the Army recruiter.

I don't understand, if they know who the characters are they don't get recruited, or they do? Seems...oddly specific.

It appears to be "vidya games are for losers, hoo-rah!" and entirely keeping with the toxicity of this garbage fire of a premise.

**nareik**

Could it be that people who bothered to learn the names of the characters around them are better suited to Army, those who don't are better for other services?

/shrug

Seems an odd metric.

**daedalus**

feeder wrote:

It appears to be "vidya games are for losers, hoo-rah!" and entirely keeping with the toxicity of this garbage fire of a premise.

I like how much it will self-select for people who don't have the mental acuity to recognize obvious characters from cultural elements that are increasingly unavoidable within one's childhood.

I knew a guy that went into the Marines right out of high school. That was at least 18 years ago, as he was a couple grades older than I am. Now, he probably couldn't have listed the names of every pokemon (I don't think I could name more than one, now or then) but I can't imagine he wouldn't have known WTF "Mario" was. Christ, my grandfather knows "Mario".

Or, more likely still, the entire original anecdote was BS thought up to troll this perpetual train wreck some more.

**feeder**

daedalus wrote:

Or, more likely still, the entire original anecdote was BS thought up to troll this perpetual train wreck some more.

**Frazzled**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
Relapse wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well of course had the baby boomers been drafted they would have performed so poorly they would lose a war with a vastly inferior foreign power. Oh wait

Now they are upset social security isn't giving them enough free money for working half-ass jobs their whole lives.

In all fairness, the rules of engagement were jacked, forcing our military to fight with an arm tithed solidly behind their back.
My platoon sergent was Marine recon and told me about coming under fire from rubber plantations and having to radio in for permission to return fire because the higher ups didn't want to damage the trees.
An uncle flew missions over North Vietnam and was forbidden from attacking railroads and docks even though they could see war materials being unloaded. Ford had a plant in Russia that was cranking out military vehicles to be sent to North Vietnam.

As far as poor performance goes, you are very mistaken, and you would realize it if you looked at any major engagements over there.

On topic, I think the man or woman in the trenches does a great job today just as was done in the past. The politicians are what Jack them up.
Sorry, going by the OP I thought this was a thread for one to pull gak out of their ass. Certainly what I said would be a ridiculous opinion to carry in a rational conversation, much like the idea that millennials are somehow inferior to any other generation.

Considering WWIII will be against the zombie/cat menace, I have faith in our millennials. After all, they've been playing FPS games all their lives. Give these guys a light rifle and a bitching sound track to play and they will stomp all over those zombie/cat/Leichtensteinians!

**Ouze**

feeder wrote:
daedalus wrote:

Or, more likely still, the entire original anecdote was BS thought up to troll this perpetual train wreck some more.

I can't believe how much mileage this insipid thread has gotten out of the question "would the age bracket who makes up 48% of today's active duty military serve if we had a draft"

**hotsauceman1**

Will it wipe away my entire college dept if I get drafted?

**Desubot**

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Will it wipe away my entire college dept if I get drafted?

Only if America loses to our new zombie cat over lords.

**Dreadwinter**

Frazzled wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Relapse wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
Well of course had the baby boomers been drafted they would have performed so poorly they would lose a war with a vastly inferior foreign power. Oh wait

Now they are upset social security isn't giving them enough free money for working half-ass jobs their whole lives.

In all fairness, the rules of engagement were jacked, forcing our military to fight with an arm tithed solidly behind their back.
My platoon sergent was Marine recon and told me about coming under fire from rubber plantations and having to radio in for permission to return fire because the higher ups didn't want to damage the trees.
An uncle flew missions over North Vietnam and was forbidden from attacking railroads and docks even though they could see war materials being unloaded. Ford had a plant in Russia that was cranking out military vehicles to be sent to North Vietnam.

As far as poor performance goes, you are very mistaken, and you would realize it if you looked at any major engagements over there.

On topic, I think the man or woman in the trenches does a great job today just as was done in the past. The politicians are what Jack them up.
Sorry, going by the OP I thought this was a thread for one to pull gak out of their ass. Certainly what I said would be a ridiculous opinion to carry in a rational conversation, much like the idea that millennials are somehow inferior to any other generation.

Considering WWIII will be against the zombie/cat menace, I have faith in our millennials. After all, they've been playing FPS games all their lives. Give these guys a light rifle and a bitching sound track to play and they will stomp all over those zombie/cat/Leichtensteinians!

The only downside to the zombie apocalypse is the lack of headphones and rocking new music to headbang to while I double tap some dead ass. (not necrophilia, you freaks)

**BaronIveagh**

Dreadwinter wrote:
and rocking new music to headbang to while I double tap some dead ass. (not necrophilia, you freaks)

*watches this idiot get bit teabagging some zombie ass. Administers the Emperor's Mercy*

Frazzled wrote:

Considering WWIII will be against the zombie/cat menace, I have faith in our millennials. After all, they've been playing FPS games all their lives. Give these guys a light rifle and a bitching sound track to play and they will stomp all over those zombie/cat/Leichtensteinians! ]

Frazz, most of these guys have never seen a gun, never mind knowing what 'recoil' is. I can see it now 'Why is my aim hack not working!?!?" 'Oh my god, why is the flamethrower not working on their undead flesh!?!? The grenade killed a bunch of our own guys!' 'I rocket jumped! Where are my legs!?!?'

**whembly**

I'm sure it's been said but haven't read all posts in thread because tl;dr... the whole irony in this thread is the fact that millennials out number everyone else in the military...

**Frazzled**

Yeah, but are they prepared for WWZ?

**Dreadwinter**

BaronIveagh wrote:
Dreadwinter wrote:
and rocking new music to headbang to while I double tap some dead ass. (not necrophilia, you freaks)

*watches this idiot get bit teabagging some zombie ass. Administers the Emperor's Mercy*

Frazzled wrote:

Considering WWIII will be against the zombie/cat menace, I have faith in our millennials. After all, they've been playing FPS games all their lives. Give these guys a light rifle and a bitching sound track to play and they will stomp all over those zombie/cat/Leichtensteinians! ]

Frazz, most of these guys have never seen a gun, never mind knowing what 'recoil' is. I can see it now 'Why is my aim hack not working!?!?" 'Oh my god, why is the flamethrower not working on their undead flesh!?!? The grenade killed a bunch of our own guys!' 'I rocket jumped! Where are my legs!?!?'

WOAH! You are telling me that real world guns have recoi..... wait you mean recoil is in video games and you have to take it in to account when aiming? OH THE WORLD WE LIVE IN!

(lol millennials right?)

**daedalus**

BaronIveagh wrote:

Frazz, most of these guys have never seen a gun, never mind knowing what 'recoil' is. I can see it now 'Why is my aim hack not working!?!?" 'Oh my god, why is the flamethrower not working on their undead flesh!?!? The grenade killed a bunch of our own guys!' 'I rocket jumped! Where are my legs!?!?'

Here we have an impressive exhibit of a comment made about how other people cannot tell reality from fictional stereotypes based upon the assumption that those people largely reflect the ones found in a fictional stereotype.

I do need to go to the shooting range again. It's been a couple years now.

**Co'tor Shas**

Frazzled wrote:
Yeah, but are they prepared for WWZ?

I don't see them practicing marksmanship, it's all about these "automatic weapons". I hear they don't even use the M1 any more!

Edit: this was a dumb WW2 joke, but I realise that says "Z" no "2"

**TheCustomLime**

Older people bashing younger generations is a tradition that goes as far back as ancient Greece. It's just like seeing older people complaining that new forms of entertainment will destroy society which is an also equally ancient tradition.

**nareik**

What if the Ancient Gods living in their paradise lands were not an apocryphal myth but literally how awesome and amazing everyone and everything used to be?

And since the time of those mighty beings; Rah, Thor, Zeus and so on, we have slipped into the inadequacy of modern existence...

Nope.

**Khornate25**

I guess it would depend on the country. Some Western world countries clearly have seen a decline in patriotism, which is a good psychological way of dealing with the trauma of both military training and life on the front. Not saying there isn't any millenials in the army and that none a patriotic, but less be honest here : people are way less patriotic (in some countries) that in the past. Not saying it's a bad thing, but it sure helped warfaring nations back in the day when you naively and blindly entered a war for ''the motherland'' and etc.

**Just Tony**

Could they handle the draft? Yep.

Are there millenials already in? Yep.

Do I think a staggering number will try to bail the country or otherwise try to dodge the draft? Yep.

Do I think we'll still be able to get enough for a viable force despite that? Yep.

Do I think that women should now have to register for Selective Service just like males now that they are able to go Combat Arms? Yep.

Do I think the highest percentage of draft dodgers will be from that pool? Yep.