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They'd probably pick up as they get more players/buyers and have a higher income stream, can hire more, buy more/better equipment, etc.

But yes 18 does seem a lot to plan for ahead.

Something cool that I'd like to comment on rules-wise. THey found through playtest that there was a seriously unfun rule sticking around and had a long discussion on it.

On one side we had the "the top tier players never encounter this, on top tables this is not a problem so its not a problem" argument.

Then the rest of everyone said its still a problem and not everyone was a top tier player.

The FAQ coming out on day one will address this and they are erring toward not everyone is a top tier player and that they have to develop for casual players as well as the "top tier" players.

I personally love that because after a lifetime of hearing "its balanced and fine at top tables so there's nothing wrong" - this approach is what I've been after for a long long time from game devs.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
I can't wait to see the Not-Greeks.

A year of waiting unless they will change their release method of 1 new army per year.

Wait, that's their release schedule? At 18 armies? That doesn't seem feasible :/
That means what, 12 years of waiting until we can see the whole range? Too bad if you're holding out for the Not-Chinese I guess.
I'm just saying, they'll get a lot more interest if they released bits of all of the factions quickly and fleshed them out over time, to pull in potential customers who are either holding out for another army or aren't interested in what they have so far.
They already showed their hand with the 18 faction comment, might as well go with it.

Well if you think it is bad waiting for miniatures to be released for the factions that are out now just imagine how long you would have to wait if they tried to do all 18 in one go.It is totally unfeasible to try doing anything like that for a new Company venture.

I just cant understand people who say,well i am not buying anything until x or y faction gets released.

As to getting more interest if they released bits for every faction.You would not see enough units to play decent games due to the amount being released and the design,production and tooling that would be needed.Then you also have the packaging to be worked on and printed.

Kheres and Moroi updated with painted models...got to say they look freaking amazing!

Ghosts are looking great. My favourites from the OD releases so far.

Yeah the sculpts are certainly improved by the paintjob

Bit stiff on the posing, but it kinda works. May be intentional. Look like they'll be a pain to rank up if they aren't posed in a certain order. Solid models in my eyes though.

Fallen Divinity from last night's stream

And Kataphracts

I would cut off that sickle moon but the rest looks good.

For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

Is the Divinity gonna be a Founder's Exclusive or an Artisan Series?

 warboss wrote:
For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

It depends. I think they have made progress on getting the product to FLGS and online stores, but for a while if you wanted anything at release or close you definitely needed to hit the Parabellum online store.

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Is the Divinity gonna be a Founder's Exclusive or an Artisan Series?

Artisan Series. I can't tell if it was community mentioning it or the actual team but there was a casual mention of a possibility of a Founder's Exclusive version down the line.

 warboss wrote:
For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

Miniature market stocks it and has it on release day. Good discount, free continental shipping at some level. They get the artist series stuff too, so you can save a bunch that way.

 Theophony wrote:

 warboss wrote:
For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

Miniature market stocks it and has it on release day. Good discount, free continental shipping at some level. They get the artist series stuff too, so you can save a bunch that way.

Thanks. It looks like the Old Dominion stuff still hasn't arrived. Is $29/24 retail/discounted the normal price for a single plastic character? That was a bit surprising for me. Do they come with lots of customization bits or are they monopose build kits? Are they typically one sprue?

Characters have never been on a plastic sprue before but they in the past do not have a ton of options no. Thats not to say the plastic sprue won't but there is no comparison to judge by (that I recall) - and I have painted every character released up to this point.

Ah, I didn't realize that. I figured the characters were in plastic like the units. Thanks for the correction.

 warboss wrote:
Ah, I didn't realize that. I figured the characters were in plastic like the units. Thanks for the correction.

But they literally were shown off as plastic.

Sorry for not being more clear.

They were always resin up to this point. They are supposedly plastic now.

The resin characters did not have a ton of options.

I haven't seen a plastic sprue to know if there are options, but up to this point even with the plastic kits there haven't been a ton of options but we will see.

I have the starter box coming.

 auticus wrote:

They were always resin up to this point.

With the exception for the mounted Noble Lord and the Pheromancer, who like all minis in the starter box are plastic.

Thanks for the clarification and correction of the correc from you both. So judging by the preorder prices, if looks like the character price is staying the same despite despite the switch from resin to plastic. It might be an outdated mindset but I always hope for some of the long term savings to be passed onto customers (yes, yes, initial tooling costs...but they're amortized!).

Also am i the only one thinking the Archimandrite and Hierodeacon look kind of very similar?

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Also am i the only one thinking the Archimandrite and Hierodeacon look kind of very similar?

Not enough to be a dual kit like Dweghom Raegh/Exemplar.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 auticus wrote:

They were always resin up to this point.

With the exception for the mounted Noble Lord and the Pheromancer, who like all minis in the starter box are plastic.

Mine were resin but I had a first printing of the starter box where everything inside was white plastic or resin.

https://youtu.be/xAMxjp98pZE

I'll be going live here in an hour on my conquest channel to discuss a few things but as for price - the starter box is listed as $165 and there are roughly $200 worth of minis in that so they do offer some savings. I don't flinch at their prices because honestly $25 or so for a character model is about on par with most games I know, or cheaper anyway.

 auticus wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 auticus wrote:

They were always resin up to this point.

With the exception for the mounted Noble Lord and the Pheromancer, who like all minis in the starter box are plastic.

Mine were resin but I had a first printing of the starter box where everything inside was white plastic or resin.

I knew about the existence of the resin starters but they were only a promotional thing not sold in shops. Never heard about the mixed plastic/resin ones.Thanks for the info

I was one of the first vanguards, I got mine a few months before the box set came out so that I could get it painted and ready to go when the official launch dropped.

It slipped my mind that the characters in the normal box were plastic.

 warboss wrote:

 Theophony wrote:

 warboss wrote:
For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

Miniature market stocks it and has it on release day. Good discount, free continental shipping at some level. They get the artist series stuff too, so you can save a bunch that way.

Thanks. It looks like the Old Dominion stuff still hasn't arrived. Is $29/24 retail/discounted the normal price for a single plastic character? That was a bit surprising for me. Do they come with lots of customization bits or are they monopose build kits? Are they typically one sprue?

One sprue, no customization. They are nice figures, but GW only gets away with charging so much for single characters because they are GW. As unfair as it is PB needs to do better than them in order to compete. I still think they are, but continued difficulties with rule writing and communication shrinks the margin of forgiveness people are willing to offer, and prices like that shrink it further.

 warboss wrote:
For those who have bought in the US, are Conquest products commonly available through the normal FLGS and online store retail chain or do you have to order direct or tyrough a chosen distributor as a customer?

I’ve bought some from Miniature Market and from my FLGS.

Our store here carries the full line.