Conquest! The Last Argument of Kings! 5th Anniversary One Player Starters. p.92.

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**Davidian**

The Militia Act actually saw the Orders spend a very generous amount of money on equipping them. In some cases, so welll that some local authority is seldom enforced. In those areas the peasant militia turn to unpoliced banditry to supplement their income.

Training on the other hand is not so good

**CthuluIsSpy**

Ah, I missed the lore. That makes sense.

Maybe the iron on their shields is a way of showing off?
I mean, if you were a peasant getting tons of funding from a wealthy establishment, wouldn't you want to show off by putting unnecessary bits of metal on your gear? Making it look blatantly ornamental probably wouldn't go over well, so they had to find a way to subtly show off.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Irbis wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Since it's a fantasy setting, I hope the explanation is something like, "they need bare iron against the ground to ward off grundersprut."

See, if I wanted that, I'd go for Age of Sigmar. In realistic wargames, I want equipment that either looks like real one, or one that makes sense in-setting somehow and isn't just badly researched wreck done with minimum of effort. I get these guys are supposed to look shabby, but whoever the artist was, he looked at GW orks for way too long. Look at that spear, it looks like ork banged it together, colossal waste of metal that also looks like it would be terrible as a weapon.

Ditto for shields, not only medieval shields were usually either made from one piece of wood for strength, or cunningly laminated from overlapping pieces, this junk on art again looks like ork banged it together. Badly cut, barely fitting together planks that would let a spear strike straight through the gaps. Eugh. Also, why are the shields painted? Paints are abundant now, in medieval times you covered the shield in cloth (that was dyed, as it took much less pigment than painting) for protection. I also researched rims out of curiosity, the larger shields infantry used had leather strip covering metal rim nailed along the bottom edge, again, to protect the only thing that stood between you and death. Again, you put metal where you can, especially bits likely to be hit, then, if you're too poor, put something, leather, fabric, whatever you can, on the other parts. You don't leave wood exposed.

I also can't help but notice what is supposed to be medieval militia rocks leather musketeer boots that would make even a landsknecht blush with envy, not only around 300 years early, but way too expensive for someone of their status. Did they loot them from some drunk time travelers or something?

Maybe you should just use historical minis with an occasional ogre. It sounds like you are stating that you want a game that makes fantasy minis for the burgeoning fantasy market to tone it down until they are in competition with Perry and Fireforge. Those products already exist, so go wild with them instead. There's always Oathmark.

To be clear, I am not saying what you want is wrong. I am saying it already exists, and Conquest has made the conscious decision to be visually distinct from what exists rather than being believable.

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I also love the dichotomy where fantasy needs to be 100 percent accurate to historical norms or it might as well be skysharks and landcrabs.

**str00dles1**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Irbis wrote:
BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Since it's a fantasy setting, I hope the explanation is something like, "they need bare iron against the ground to ward off grundersprut."

See, if I wanted that, I'd go for Age of Sigmar. In realistic wargames, I want equipment that either looks like real one, or one that makes sense in-setting somehow and isn't just badly researched wreck done with minimum of effort. I get these guys are supposed to look shabby, but whoever the artist was, he looked at GW orks for way too long. Look at that spear, it looks like ork banged it together, colossal waste of metal that also looks like it would be terrible as a weapon.

Ditto for shields, not only medieval shields were usually either made from one piece of wood for strength, or cunningly laminated from overlapping pieces, this junk on art again looks like ork banged it together. Badly cut, barely fitting together planks that would let a spear strike straight through the gaps. Eugh. Also, why are the shields painted? Paints are abundant now, in medieval times you covered the shield in cloth (that was dyed, as it took much less pigment than painting) for protection. I also researched rims out of curiosity, the larger shields infantry used had leather strip covering metal rim nailed along the bottom edge, again, to protect the only thing that stood between you and death. Again, you put metal where you can, especially bits likely to be hit, then, if you're too poor, put something, leather, fabric, whatever you can, on the other parts. You don't leave wood exposed.

I also can't help but notice what is supposed to be medieval militia rocks leather musketeer boots that would make even a landsknecht blush with envy, not only around 300 years early, but way too expensive for someone of their status. Did they loot them from some drunk time travelers or something?

Maybe you should just use historical minis with an occasional ogre. It sounds like you are stating that you want a game that makes fantasy minis for the burgeoning fantasy market to tone it down until they are in competition with Perry and Fireforge. Those products already exist, so go wild with them instead. There's always Oathmark.

To be clear, I am not saying what you want is wrong. I am saying it already exists, and Conquest has made the conscious decision to be visually distinct from what exists rather than being believable.

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I also love the dichotomy where fantasy needs to be 100 percent accurate to historical norms or it might as well be skysharks and landcrabs.

Agree with bob here. I don't quite get how a thread about a high fantasy game with alien like creatures got devolved into a discussion on historical accuracy of who actually wore what back then. They said the drone dudes are grown and mutated in special vats, so any part of them game be "realistic" is out the window, and that's ok cause the rules are good and the models are beautiful.

**Davidian**

Yeah, this is definitely a fantasy wargame. Not a realistic historical wargame. Certain factions have some design features that are recognisably inspire by particular historical periods but just inspired by. The arms and armour are still of fantasy design. All fantasy/fiction deals with the suspension of disbelief... Some suspend it higher and more precariously than others. In a world with dragons, biomancy, mythic beasts and the restless dead, shield length and boot cut hardly break that suspension

I'm a big fan of the balance they have struck between the normal and fantastical. what brings it more down to earth for me is a real sense of world building with deep, complex and (as close as possible to) realistic societies.

**Galas**

Guys you don't understand, Irbis has made quite the research to determine how abundant paints are in Para Bellum's Conquest! universe.

**Davidian**

Galas wrote:
Guys you don't understand, Irbis has made quite the research to determine how abundant paints are in Para Bellum's Conquest! universe.

Now now

play nice XD

**BobtheInquisitor**

Galas wrote:
Guys you don't understand, Irbis has made quite the research to determine how abundant paints are in Para Bellum's Conquest! universe.

Now they need to write a vignette about a mercenary company who gleefully fight through the meat grinder (possibly literally) to earn the big score...a pot of purple paint that will set the survivors to live like dukes.

**CthuluIsSpy**

They clearly buy all the paints from the spire.
The paints may or not be the liquefied remains of their biomantic abominations.

I joke, but if you think about it, its entirely possible the Spire know how to mass produce paints. If you can get dyes from plants irl, then with a bit of alchemy and biomancy you can make one that produces paint.

**Davidian**

My work on the FB site

Www.facebook.com/ParaBellumWarGames

**auticus**

Man the waiting is killing me.

**str00dles1**

They didn't happen to post like cards yet for the units?

**Davidian**

Hehe only a few weeks till UK games Expo

Not seen any cards yet although I am supposed to be getting done emailed to me.... Some day XD

**Zond**

Anyone know when this has an expected release? I'm loving everything I see but I seem to be missing that.

**Davidian**

Zond wrote:
Anyone know when this has an expected release? I'm loving everything I see but I seem to be missing that.

no sweat mate. June 3rd is the first wave with a pretty packed first year schedule

**Zond**

Sounds good especially as I'm going to Game Expo this year. Looking forward to hopefully seeing it in the flesh.

**BobtheInquisitor**

Will it be available through US FLGSes or do we need to order it directly?

**Davidian**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Will it be available through US FLGSes or do we need to order it directly?

Did some digging for you Bob,

"It will be available through FLGes! You can just walk right in there and pick up a copy!"

Also for all you Yankee Doodle Stroodle types :*

"... we have 4 US distributors already that will carry the product"

**BobtheInquisitor**

Thanks! Looking forward to it.

**vitki**

Yeah, me too. Hopefully someone around Seattle will stock it.

**Mysterio**

If not, it is almost certainly going to be stocked by The Warstore and/or Miniature Market, I'd think.

**Davidian**

Of The Horsemen... From Www.facebook.com/ParaBellumWarGames...

"For the Old Faith, they were simply Marduk, Enkil, Anuk and Atrahos, forefathers of the very Pantheon that would ultimately overthrow them with the help of the Dragons. The Dweghom had named them, and still do, the Dhaitan, Primordial Titans of immense size and cosmic power, a term many tributary tribes of the Old Dominion had adopted and which is still used by some City States.

The term ‘Horsemen’ did not appear but much later, in the Epiphanies of prophet Elius, who named them Famine, War, Death and Conquest respectively and foretold their return from their prisons to resume the War of Hosts. Rather than argue with the ramblings of a madman, many seek instead to grasp the secrets of their pasts. Fortunately for us, all objective knowledge of these beings passed with the last Dragon…”

Sophides, “Rational Faith”, 482 P.R.

**Nova_Impero**

Love reading this piece of fluff.

**CthuluIsSpy**

If the creatures on the sides are meant to be the Horsemen, I'm digging it. They look alien and otherwordly, just as you'd think a race of primordial creatures would look.
1st guy is War, 2nd Guy is Conquest, 3rd guy is most likely Famine, 4th guy is Death.

**anab0lic**

Please turn those artworks into sculpts.

**Davidian**

anab0lic wrote:
Please turn those artworks into sculpts.

I'm not sure if that even possible...

This is the only picture I've seen of a God so far... You'll need a bigger table XD

https://www.instagram.com/p/BiByWQrjJAd/

**godswildcard**

Yeah, let’s not forget that a god falling off his mountain retreat had enough force to destroy half a continent...(possibly more, but another god intervened to save the other half...and it cost her her life...)

**Davidian**

I only wish I could find (so lazy) who asked what the command cards will look like.

I can reveal and exclusive preview of two character cards. The rules and stats are not up to date with playesting* so may vary from the final product but they will all feature original pencil sketch concept art

*On a side note, the demo rules I have (version beta version 2.0) were hastlity put together so that demos could be given at Spiel Essen last... September? (my memory is getting worse) the game has been under constant playtest for a long time prior and ever since. When we spoke in February, they were in the fi Al stages of playesting. Tournament testing. Breaking armies and being TFG as hard as possible XD sounds fun and the final book is about to go to print

**CthuluIsSpy**

What does E do? I don't think that ever came up in the demo games.
I know what the other stats do, just not E.
How does resolve work with single characters?

**Davidian**

Stats you can see are as follows...

(normally ranked from 0 to 6 making maximum use of the full D6 range. Movement, attack and wounds are the exception)

M: March - Distance moved in inches when moving.
V: Volley - skill with Fire orders
C: Clash - skill with Clash orders in melee
A: Attack - number of dice the model roll in a Clash action
W: Wounds - the number of injuries a model can sustain before it is removed as a casualty
R: Resolve - how well your troops hold their nerve
D: Defense - a measure of physical resistance
E: Evasion - skill in avoiding attackes rather than absorbing the trauma!