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2017/11/14 06:12:57
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't think we are defending Takei so much as pointing out the flaws in the potential case against him.
1. It's one man's word against another's.
2. It happened 40 years ago.
3. Both were supposedly seriously drunk.
4. There is no pattern of accusations against Takei.
5. Takei has given a full and frank account of his version of events.
6. Etc. etc.
But most importantly of course he is a well-known left-winger and supporter of the Demcrats, much like Weinberger, whom the left-wing media and populace are givng an equally easy ride.
Unlike the Republican Moore, whose party has rightly condemned for his apparent paedophilia.
You have that backwards,
Easy ride for Weinsteins? he's been fired, and no one is protesting for him to keep his job. He's been condemned by everyone.
Let's see, Keurig pulls ads from hanitys show for defending a pedophile,
republicans are now boycotting and smashing their keurigs in support of a pedophile
Just like with trump, the R's didn't care about the number of women accusing him, not even the under age girls that accused him, nor his admittance of walking into girls dressing rooms to see them naked.
A few republicans condemning more is no where near "the party" doing it.
You would think Moore would step down, as trump should have, but let's see if moore gets elected. That will show you what the party thinks.
2017/11/14 06:25:10
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Dude... most of the GOP party as rescinded their support of Moore.
That doesn't "reflect" the GOP party anymore than Kennedy leaving a women to drown or BIll Clinton's issues reflect the Democratic party.
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Anyways... more and more Hollywood are being accused...
whembly wrote: Dude... most of the GOP party as rescinded their support of Moore.
Most?, Why isn't it everyone? that "most" also elected trump and could possibly elect moore.
You can say "most" all you'd like as if it's some sort of achievement, but its really the disturbing the numbers that are defending the guy and how he gathered support because he's a pedo.
2017/11/14 06:56:23
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
whembly wrote: Dude... most of the GOP party as rescinded their support of Moore.
Most?, Why isn't it everyone? that "most" also elected trump and could possibly elect moore.
You can say "most" all you'd like as if it's some sort of achievement, but its really the disturbing the numbers that are defending the guy and how he gathered support because he's a pedo.
Sure it's disturbing... I'm only asking if can the same paint brush you just used.
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2017/11/14 07:08:35
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
I believe it takes a super majority of the senate to remove a "seated" Senator.
All 48 Democrats plus 18 Republicans doesn't seem too hard to summon up to remove a sex predator. I mean, if you want to say 'most' Republicans will not support Moore, then surely you'll be able to summon up 18 out of 52 Republican senators?
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whembly wrote: Dude... most of the GOP party as rescinded their support of Moore.
It isn't most. Not yet. It was a handful, and now its a few more, once McConnell took the lead.
Thing is, you had no problem talking about the issue Hollywood had. It was the most natural thing in the world, to go from hearing about Weinstein to noting how people covered this up for years, to noting that people speaking up now, finally, didn't absolve Hollywood of years of cover ups. And you weren't wrong, it was awful how few people did anything to limit what Weinstein and others did for years.
But no that major elements of the Republican party attempted a cover up you suddenly don't make that same natural step. And sure, this cover up may have been laughably bad, and could possibly be abandoned after just a few days, but that's not due to any morals, it's only because they're not good enough liars to keep it going (I'm not sure anyone is a good enough liar to maintain that defense, with what is now coming out). But the fact remains FOX News, Breitbart and others attempted to smear the accusers by claiming bankruptcies and divorces somehow meant they were lying, and by dismissing the story as a political attack led by WaPo, and by claiming most accusers are lying. It was some shameful bs, and it was coordinated with Moore and other Republican leaders who made similar arguments. The whole sorry affair absolutely reflects on the party as a whole.
You had no problem being disgusted by Hollywood looking the other about Weinstein's abuses, if you are honest you must be at least as disgusted with what major parts of the conservative movement attempted here.
And yeah, a lot of people in the Democrats played a part in covering for Bill Clinton, and plenty of others knew a lot more than they said. That does reflect on them and the party at that time.
But it is the Republicans who are did it right now, and they are doing it to defend a guy who tried to rape children.
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2017/11/14 08:09:31
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
NinthMusketeer wrote: I think that the funny thing about the rape culture 'debate' is that a need to deny it is pretty strong confirmation it exists. If someone said "witch trials are a problem in society" the response would be of confusion over why someone would have such a silly viewpoint. It's like when when people say "racism is dead" or "sexism is dead" if it were actually dead no one would make that statement. No one goes around saying "witch trials are dead" or "slavery is dead" because such a statement is accepted as a basic truth.
That doesn't really follow, just because you have to say that creationism isn't a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution doesn't make creationism a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution
You're presenting an example that supports the argument you're challenging. People only say 'creationism isn't a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution' because there is a significant group of people argue otherwise. The expression only exists because the problem exists.
You misunderstood the argument, NinthMusketeer argued that if people felt a need to deny something, that thing actually exists or at least a strong confirmation of it existing, not just that people that argue for it exists.
NinthMusketeer wrote: I think that the funny thing about the rape culture 'debate' is that a need to deny it is pretty strong confirmation it exists.
So my point was that doesn't make sense and I used the example of denying creationism as legitimate science, in NinthMusketeers world that would be a strong confirmation that creationism was actually a legitimate science
Apples to oranges. Scientific concepts are not social values or practices.
Okay, if I feel the need to deny the existence of bigfoot or the mothman, does that make them real or a "strong confirmation" that they exist? Or if you wanna keep it to social values/practice, if I deny white genocide does that make it real?
2017/11/14 08:56:35
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't think we are defending Takei so much as pointing out the flaws in the potential case against him.
1. It's one man's word against another's.
2. It happened 40 years ago.
3. Both were supposedly seriously drunk.
4. There is no pattern of accusations against Takei.
5. Takei has given a full and frank account of his version of events.
6. Etc. etc.
But most importantly of course he is a well-known left-winger and supporter of the Demcrats, much like Weinberger, whom the left-wing media and populace are givng an equally easy ride.
Unlike the Republican Moore, whose party has rightly condemned for his apparent paedophilia.
The 'lefties' in Hollywood by and large stood by Polanski for decades. Pretending like it's a stark dividing line between political parties is simply playing into the partisan divide.
They aren't standing by Weinstein or Spacey now, but a lot of Republicans are standing by Moore.
"The gallows are being erected" hyperbole aside, it's pretty clear the reason for his inclusion on that list was the unsolicited groping of an actresses breast when she was coming out of a bathroom. The Patricia Arquette incident was a throwaway addendum to that.
It's like selectively reading the article and then asking why we're lynching Ben Affleck for making Argo.
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2017/11/14 14:08:01
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
NinthMusketeer wrote: I think that the funny thing about the rape culture 'debate' is that a need to deny it is pretty strong confirmation it exists. If someone said "witch trials are a problem in society" the response would be of confusion over why someone would have such a silly viewpoint. It's like when when people say "racism is dead" or "sexism is dead" if it were actually dead no one would make that statement. No one goes around saying "witch trials are dead" or "slavery is dead" because such a statement is accepted as a basic truth.
That doesn't really follow, just because you have to say that creationism isn't a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution doesn't make creationism a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution
You're presenting an example that supports the argument you're challenging. People only say 'creationism isn't a legitimate scientific counter to the theory of evolution' because there is a significant group of people argue otherwise. The expression only exists because the problem exists.
You misunderstood the argument, NinthMusketeer argued that if people felt a need to deny something, that thing actually exists or at least a strong confirmation of it existing, not just that people that argue for it exists.
NinthMusketeer wrote: I think that the funny thing about the rape culture 'debate' is that a need to deny it is pretty strong confirmation it exists.
So my point was that doesn't make sense and I used the example of denying creationism as legitimate science, in NinthMusketeers world that would be a strong confirmation that creationism was actually a legitimate science
Apples to oranges. Scientific concepts are not social values or practices.
Okay, if I feel the need to deny the existence of bigfoot or the mothman, does that make them real or a "strong confirmation" that they exist? Or if you wanna keep it to social values/practice, if I deny white genocide does that make it real?
Disciple of Fate wrote: But the part I wanted to adres was the drinks thing. They had dinner so it shouldn't have been an empty stomach and Brunton said this:
It was his second drink at Takei's place. It's possible they had already had drinks before. It would be weird if they hadn't. As to the meal - good pick up, I thought they'd been at a bar, but I think that was me getting confused with the details of previous times they met. As a dodge... it was the '80s and dinner was a huge plate with like two peas and a prawn on it?
But yeah, this is just speculation, but I think it is more believable that Brunton drank too much and it caught up with him, than Takei drugged him. Although Brunton's description, of being black out drunk, then waking up and being sober enough to leave and drive home doesn't sound like any drinking experience I've had, witnessed or been told about, so who knows.
Of course that is possible, enjoying a glass of wine or two with dinner is pretty normal and not all people care enough not to drive afterwards. Haha two peas and a whole prawn actually sounds pretty good for a restaurant visited by stars, I've certainly seen smaller portions today.
The drive home part has me scratching my head too. Some people just take alcohol really well and might feel confident enough to drive even if they totally shouldn't. I have seen Dutch people able to do it on a bicycle, two wheels must be harder than four. Maybe he actually did drive home while still heavily intoxicated, but is just ashamed to admit that he did. I don't think we will ever get to hear the full story and so far no other people have stepped forwards to accuse Takei (as of this moment that I'm aware of), which makes it harder than a case with multiple accusers like everybody says.
Kilkrazy wrote: I don't think we are defending Takei so much as pointing out the flaws in the potential case against him.
1. It's one man's word against another's. 2. It happened 40 years ago. 3. Both were supposedly seriously drunk. 4. There is no pattern of accusations against Takei. 5. Takei has given a full and frank account of his version of events. 6. Etc. etc.
But most importantly of course he is a well-known left-winger and supporter of the Demcrats, much like Weinberger, whom the left-wing media and populace are givng an equally easy ride.
Unlike the Republican Moore, whose party has rightly condemned for his apparent paedophilia.
The 'lefties' in Hollywood by and large stood by Polanski for decades. Pretending like it's a stark dividing line between political parties is simply playing into the partisan divide.
They aren't standing by Weinstein or Spacey now, but a lot of Republicans are standing by Moore.
While the Polanski case is pretty terrible I feel obligated to include my last comment on another Polanski thread: Two wrongs don't make a right.
Breaking Bad star Bryan Cranston says there could be a way back for Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey following allegations of sexual assault. He said it would "take time... and tremendous contrition on their part". "If they were to show us that they... are truly sorry and are making amends, not defending their actions but asking for forgiveness. "Maybe down the road there is room for that [a way back]. Maybe it's possible," the star told the BBC. "It would be up to us to determine case by case whether or not this person deserves a second chance," he added. Both Weinstein and Spacey have denied the accusations against them.
Cranston said that anyone found guilty of such abuses would have to acknowledge that "they have a deeply rooted psychological and emotional problem that takes years to mend" and would have to be willing to "put the work in" in order to see their career rehabilitated. The 61-year-old, who found fame on the TV series Malcolm in the Middle and Breaking Bad, told the BBC's arts editor Will Gompertz: "Sexual predatory behaviour is not a Hollywood problem, it's a societal problem and we're seeing that everywhere. "What's so great [is] that it's being exposed. Young men and women should not have to tolerate being mistreated. We're an enlightened society, enough already. "I don't want my daughter to be raised in an environment where she has to monitor her behaviour and avoid [walking past] a construction site," he added.
"Let's get rid of these people and that behaviour, it doesn't belong in our society." Cranston also spoke about the controversial issue of gun control in the US, following several mass shootings in October. "[We've had] massive killings, then the uproar, upset - and then it calms down. The NRA gun lobby is immeasurably strong. It's so sad. It's crushing to me actually, as an American, to accept that this is a way of life. "It's just unfathomable to me and yet it's real… the ultimate disrespect is to take some innocent's life. "If we're not repulsed by that, what are we repulsed at?" Reflecting on American society, Cranston said "anger" was part of the reason Donald Trump became president. "It's a legitimate feeling to feel disenfranchised and not listened to, and they [Trump voters] latched on to his message of supreme accomplishment. "He didn't burden himself with truth - don't worry about that, just listen to the message. He has this compulsion to need to talk, to feel like he's in control. "A person doesn't always need to talk to be in control of the situation. Just be smart - sometimes being quiet and introspective is a good thing." Cranston is starring at the National Theatre in London in an adaptation of the Oscar-winning film Network, which depicts a dystopian media landscape where opinion triumphs over fact.
Filing this one under "but why?" Both Weinstein and Spacey have done all but directly admit decades of sexual assault.
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2017/11/14 17:01:22
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
I believe it takes a super majority of the senate to remove a "seated" Senator.
All 48 Democrats plus 18 Republicans doesn't seem too hard to summon up to remove a sex predator. I mean, if you want to say 'most' Republicans will not support Moore, then surely you'll be able to summon up 18 out of 52 Republican senators?
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whembly wrote: Dude... most of the GOP party as rescinded their support of Moore.
It isn't most. Not yet. It was a handful, and now its a few more, once McConnell took the lead.
Thing is, you had no problem talking about the issue Hollywood had. It was the most natural thing in the world, to go from hearing about Weinstein to noting how people covered this up for years, to noting that people speaking up now, finally, didn't absolve Hollywood of years of cover ups. And you weren't wrong, it was awful how few people did anything to limit what Weinstein and others did for years.
But no that major elements of the Republican party attempted a cover up you suddenly don't make that same natural step. And sure, this cover up may have been laughably bad, and could possibly be abandoned after just a few days, but that's not due to any morals, it's only because they're not good enough liars to keep it going (I'm not sure anyone is a good enough liar to maintain that defense, with what is now coming out). But the fact remains FOX News, Breitbart and others attempted to smear the accusers by claiming bankruptcies and divorces somehow meant they were lying, and by dismissing the story as a political attack led by WaPo, and by claiming most accusers are lying. It was some shameful bs, and it was coordinated with Moore and other Republican leaders who made similar arguments. The whole sorry affair absolutely reflects on the party as a whole.
You had no problem being disgusted by Hollywood looking the other about Weinstein's abuses, if you are honest you must be at least as disgusted with what major parts of the conservative movement attempted here.
And yeah, a lot of people in the Democrats played a part in covering for Bill Clinton, and plenty of others knew a lot more than they said. That does reflect on them and the party at that time.
But it is the Republicans who are did it right now, and they are doing it to defend a guy who tried to rape children.
I didn't discuss it because there's *still* a banned topic. I'm amazed the mods hasn't warned us yet to stop talking about US Politics.
So please stop inferring simply because I don't discuss it.
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2017/11/14 17:18:17
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
I think we have an agreed upon policy that still bans a politics thread for the sake of talking politics, but that it’s okay to include political discussions as long as they are relevant to the actual topic at hand.
We can’t have a thread about Trump, but we can talk about how Trumps response and behaviors affect our relationship with North Korea in the North Korea thread. It’s a thin line, but I think for the most part we have managed it.
So I think that alleged sexual abuse at the hands of a politician, and other politicians responses to the allegations, are fair game.
2017/11/14 17:27:00
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
d-usa wrote: I think we have an agreed upon policy that still bans a politics thread for the sake of talking politics, but that it’s okay to include political discussions as long as they are relevant to the actual topic at hand.
We can’t have a thread about Trump, but we can talk about how Trumps response and behaviors affect our relationship with North Korea in the North Korea thread. It’s a thin line, but I think for the most part we have managed it.
So I think that alleged sexual abuse at the hands of a politician, and other politicians responses to the allegations, are fair game.
Then I hope sebster mentions later on that we've be PM'ing on these verious topics and I had made my opposition to Moore bluntly and that I hope the Doug wins so that the fricking Bannon-wings dies out.
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2017/11/14 18:48:26
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
If more Takei accusers come forward, then I'll be convinced. Until then, it's really "he said, he said".
Regarding "rape culture", about 1/3 of the women on my FB felt comfortable enough to say #metoo. I was shocked, and it led me to engage in some serious retrospection. I've done things that at the time I could dismiss as "drunk" or "jokes", but the recipient could have easily felt violated by. It's not a good feeling.
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2017/11/14 19:41:01
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
I understand exactly what you mean in terms of the latter. I also was surprised by how many of my friends said #metoo. I'm usually pretty dismissive of hashtag slacktivism but I wonder about this one.
In terms of Takei, I'm not sure how I feel. He's the only one so far to issue a complete, total denial. As you say, there is only the one accusation, and the pattern in these cases seems to skew pretty heavily towards repeat offenders. I'm not saying the accuser made it up at all, but I'm hoping that it falls into that mushy middle area of two people having an encounter that feels very different to each of them.
Of course, not wanting to believe something horrible about someone because you are fond of them is how a lot of this came about in the first place. It's possible for George Takei to be a funny dude who played an iconic role and who also once sexually assaulted someone.
The only thing I know for sure is this video did not age well.
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2017/11/14 19:51:03
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
feeder wrote: If more Takei accusers come forward, then I'll be convinced. Until then, it's really "he said, he said".
Regarding "rape culture", about 1/3 of the women on my FB felt comfortable enough to say #metoo. I was shocked, and it led me to engage in some serious retrospection. I've done things that at the time I could dismiss as "drunk" or "jokes", but the recipient could have easily felt violated by. It's not a good feeling.
Its in Dutch, but the results are pretty grim. Its about young adults 18 to 35. 58% of young women and 32% of young men have been groped at least once, 30% of those multiple times. 61% was in the night life, 11% in the workplace, 7% in public transport and another 7% o the street plus some smaller percentages.
The overwhelming place for both men and women to be groped is the butt, followed by crotch for men and breasts for women. Yet with 2/3rds of women and 1/3rd of men facing groping, only 2% actually report it. Crazy numbers, likely similar in the US and other European countries at least, as the Netherlands is pretty average for a Western country.
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2017/11/14 19:56:46
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
Kilkrazy wrote: I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
Yes, but Takei potentially being somewhat of a hypocrite would completely exonerate all of the predators on "their side". That's the impression that I get.
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2017/11/14 20:28:52
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Kilkrazy wrote: I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
Yes, but Takei potentially being somewhat of a hypocrite would completely exonerate all of the predators on "their side". That's the impression that I get.
I don't think any of the Republicans jumping to defend Moore have said anything at all about Takei.
Kilkrazy wrote: I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
For this reason, Takei is more of a grey region while Moore, Spacey, and Weinstein are more of a "GTFO of society, d-bags" in my book.
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2017/11/14 20:34:30
Subject: Re:Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Kilkrazy wrote: I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
Senator guy isn't allegedly. He has a well known history of seeking out the company of underage girls and any defenses given of his person are bizarre apologies for his behavior or calls to silence his accusers, motivated from wanting to keep power. It's disgusting and terrible.
I'm talking about Takei's own testimony.
2017/11/14 20:36:56
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Kilkrazy wrote: I think a lot of us might agree that two drunk gay adult men in the early 1980s allegedly having an allegedly non-consensual and quickly terminated fumble in the dark is on a different part of the spectrum to a US Senatorial candidate who allegedly has a well-known history of fething underage girls.
Yes, but Takei potentially being somewhat of a hypocrite would completely exonerate all of the predators on "their side". That's the impression that I get.
I don't think any of the Republicans jumping to defend Moore have said anything at all about Takei.
Sorry, I was referencing all the loyal foot soldiers, fighting the meme war in the trenches.
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2017/11/14 20:41:29
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
d-usa wrote: Isn't the latest news that the local mall kept an eye out for him because he was known to creep around the place?
Yes. Everywhere you look and everyone you ask confirms this guy hangs with teenage girls a lot.
This whole thing is some sort of horrifying Rorschach test for responding to the unthinkable. The one that hurt me the most was Louis C.K, and that's mostly for my roommate's sake, as he's a big comedy buff.
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2017/11/14 20:51:08
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Scrabb wrote: The one that hurt me the most was Louis C.K, and that's mostly for my roommate's sake, as he's a big comedy buff.
That was a shame. While not my favorite comedian by a long shot, I thought a lot of his observations were thoughtful and humorous and I enjoyed him on Sirius Satellite's various comedy channels.
That was pretty disgusting of him. At least he is owning it without any qualifications. Still, I don't think I can listen to his stuff again for a long while.
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2017/11/14 21:00:03
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
Scrabb wrote: The one that hurt me the most was Louis C.K, and that's mostly for my roommate's sake, as he's a big comedy buff.
That was a shame. While not my favorite comedian by a long shot, I thought a lot of his observations were thoughtful and humorous and I enjoyed him on Sirius Satellite's various comedy channels.
That was pretty disgusting of him. At least he is owning it without any qualifications. Still, I don't think I can listen to his stuff again for a long while.
Yeah, I feel the same. I can still listen to Pantera and Down because, despite being a stupid racist fethhead, Phil doesn't yell about any of that.
Louis CK's creepy private predilections and his public work occupy nearly the same space as each other and it feels greasy as feth now.
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2017/11/14 21:10:49
Subject: Movie Mogul accusation and the dark side of Hollywood
d-usa wrote: Isn't the latest news that the local mall kept an eye out for him because he was known to creep around the place?
5 accusers.
He signed the yearbook of one
Mall security saying they kept a watch on him.
All major senators saying get out.
Some scuttlebutt is if he wins, Senate will depose and replace with Sessions.
State RNC is threatening anyone who wants to put in for write in, that they'll never get another position there.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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