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 NivlacSupreme wrote:

 Cream Tea wrote:

 NivlacSupreme wrote:


Not very many minis but better than the five of the last one.

What? Does the number of minis really matter? These are, with the exception of the Farseer, all larger models, and the savings are in line with most SC kits. I don't see anything to complain about (other than the War Walker being ugly as always).

The old one always looked kind of funny next to say, Deathwatch. Four bikes and a tank compared to eleven guys and a walker.

Well, I'm of the opposite opinion. The SC Deathwatch has 11 footsloggers and a footslogger vehicle, none of them very big. The grav tank alone looks more impressive than that.

In the end, though, it's mostly about value, and this new SC Craftworlds has lots of that. Will buy.

Wait, so GW said we will get "about 10 codexes" by the end of the year.

Seems like there will be only 8 by the end of November, and i doubt there will be any dexes in December.

What'sup Geedubs?

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Wait, so GW said we will get "about 10 codexes" by the end of the year.

Seems like there will be only 8 by the end of November, and i doubt there will be any dexes in December.

What'sup Geedubs?

"About 10" is pretty vague. Would it mean 9, 10 or 11 to you? GW might take it to mean 8, 9, 10, 11 or 12. 8 is closer to 10 than it is to 5, at least.

Also, why would they not release any codices in December?

Where on the Grey Knights-Imperial Guard potency scale do we see the book falling?

Given the improvements in the index perhaps there are people who give a crap about the bugs this time around.

So excited to get some Tyranids love!

 pizzaguardian wrote:
Wait, so GW said we will get "about 10 codexes" by the end of the year.

Seems like there will be only 8 by the end of November, and i doubt there will be any dexes in December.

What'sup Geedubs?

Sure GW don't usually release codexes in December, but they also didn't used to release 2 per month either. Everything we used to know went out the window with 8E.

My money says TSons and Orks/Necrons before Xmas. With CWE & Nids arriving so soon there's nothing to stop GW from dropping at least one of those toward the end of November.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Well, it wouldn't be a Tyranid bundle without Genestealers. I probably have two dozen sprues by now.

They're like McDonald's fries. They come with everything.

 Jin wrote:

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:

I do agree with you in that this is not the iconic tyranid force; it really should be a box of warriors, a box of termagants and a Carnifex.

But any semblance of rationality went out the window when I saw the TRYGON AND BROODLORD.

I think the only issue with Warriors + Termas + a Carnifex (which, btw, I 100% agree makes the most sense) is that it doesn't include an HQ selection. Granted, theoretically you can make a Prime out of the Warriors.


But yeah....this set is screaming "Genestealer delivery service!" set (which I will probably purchase )

Warriors can make a Prime, which is a HQ choice. A sucky one (given that the Broodlord does what it wants to do but better) but still an HQ choice.

Bugs will return to their fourth edition glory!

Nids have no brokenly powerful units. If the hivefleet rules, artifacts, and stratgems match the guard dex for allowing flexibilty in the way we build lists the nid dex might just be the benchmark for balance internally and externally this edition.

If nids become broken this edition I will not be humble about it like Guard players are. I will wallow in my opponent's salty tears like scrooge mcduck.

And you can quote me on that. (do eet)

I'm really curious to see what sort of stratagems they get. Also will be awesome if there include all the <Hive> fleets with traits, warlord and stratagems. Nids deserve it after the last few editions

Lance845 wrote:Nids have no brokenly powerful units. If the hivefleet rules, artifacts, and stratgems match the guard dex for allowing flexibilty in the way we build lists the nid dex might just be the benchmark for balance internally and externally this edition.

I really want to see this, it would be refreshing and nice to have a really well balanced codex internally and externally. One issue they need to fix is the Tyrannofex-Exocrine thing right of the bat, as there's no point in taking a TFex compared to an exocrine. They just fill the same role right now.

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:If nids become broken this edition I will not be humble about it like Guard players are. I will wallow in my opponent's salty tears like scrooge mcduck.

And you can quote me on that. (do eet)

BUT I ALSO WANT THIS. I want to be feared, but not so much as unplayed, but a true force to be reckoned with on the table when dice start rolling and the tools come out.

I'm also very keen on the new Start collecting, despite Genestealers coming with a lot of kits, I only have about 12, and could use another squad or two... plus I need some Trygons. Maybe a Mawloc. I'll just convert the Broodlord into something else. Hunched pose gives off a nice gunbeast vibe.. maybe Biovore?

The changes to the Eldar and Tyranid boxes make sense. GW wants cross pollination between 40k and Armageddon, which means an infantry HQ and some boots on the ground. Then a big thing to entice you into bigger games.

The old boxes had very little useable stuff for Armageddon, and in the Tyranids’ case, nothing says hive battles like genestealers.

I don’t think Armageddon was anything more than a filler box set. It was only because of fan pressure that they released the book separately.

I don’t think they’re considering that ruleset when putting together these SC sets.

For one, you can’t take Wraithguard in Armageddon.

That Tyranid starter box looks awesome, if you bought two, you could just get some Gaunts and you'd have a decent TAC force.

Example:

Broodlord, on table
Broodlord, on table
Two Broods of Gaunts

Two Trygons, with Stealer Broods...Done!

I really dislike the Nids SC I have tond of stealers from board games already and three Broodlords. No swarmie but a 2nd Ed. one and only three modern Warriors, no Gargoyles. But I wanted to buy the current SC in a few months, not now while swamped with DG and IG. Sigh.

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really dislike the Nids SC I have tons of stealers from board games already and three Broodlords. No swarmie but a 2nd Ed. one and only three modern Warriors, no Gargoyles. But I wanted to buy the current SC in a few months, not now while swamped with DG and IG. Sigh.

Well you're not exactly meeting the target audience of "Start Collecting" then are you?!?

 Badablack wrote:
The changes to the Eldar and Tyranid boxes make sense. GW wants cross pollination between 40k and Armageddon, which means an infantry HQ and some boots on the ground. Then a big thing to entice you into bigger games.

The old boxes had very little useable stuff for Armageddon, and in the Tyranids’ case, nothing says hive battles like genestealers.

Except that Nids use Warriors in Armageddon.

 Silentz wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really dislike the Nids SC I have tons of stealers from board games already and three Broodlords. No swarmie but a 2nd Ed. one and only three modern Warriors, no Gargoyles. But I wanted to buy the current SC in a few months, not now while swamped with DG and IG. Sigh.

Well you're not exactly meeting the target audience of "Start Collecting" then are you?!?

I'm not in the sense that I'm a new player, no But my "modern" Nids consist of three warriors and the old box that had half termas and hormagaunts (and way too many board game stealers), so I'm more of a beginner than the people buying four sets of Eldar SC with bikes for their 5k points 7th Ed armies

Tyranids are decent index-wise, so with a little polishing and Hive Fleet rules I can see this not being a disaster like Guard was. Can't wait for the previews.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Tyranids are decent index-wise, so with a little polishing and Hive Fleet rules I can see this not being a disaster like Guard was. Can't wait for the previews.

Is it? With a few Hive Fleet rules like armywide +1 strength and/or re-rolling all 1s in the army and randomly doubling the shots for things like Dakka-Fexes and Exocrines, they might get close (though still not quite Guard, I suppose).

Wraithguard are in Armageddon, you buy them as specialists I believe...

Armageddon was literally a stopgap product between the end of 7th and the start of 8th, to
- judge potential popularity to relaunch necromunda
- give people something to buy in the meantime which required no new models

It's not a supported game which is changing their decision-making on 40k start collecting boxes.

And release a killer set of new terrain. Don't forget that.

Personally, I'll just be happy if this codex isn't a complete steaming pile of gak (meaning don't let CRUDdace anywhere near it). I started playing in 5th edition and have never had a codex that was really any good.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiids

HALT!
Step away from the photoshop filters before someone gets hurt!!

I just hope they do something to help Lictors. At the least, go back to squads up to 3 - then I can use all my models in a patrol detachment...

 Silentz wrote:

 Binabik15 wrote:
I really dislike the Nids SC I have tons of stealers from board games already and three Broodlords. No swarmie but a 2nd Ed. one and only three modern Warriors, no Gargoyles. But I wanted to buy the current SC in a few months, not now while swamped with DG and IG. Sigh.

Well you're not exactly meeting the target audience of "Start Collecting" then are you?!?

I'm always ppuzzled by box sets with start collecting as a title and contents that aren't particularly useful. Discouraging people from buying products shouldn't be a goal.