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These CW figures might actually make me start collecting some of these. Very nice addition to the lineup

 AduroT wrote:
Are the vehicles styrene? I thought they were just a stiffer blend of pvc still.

They're styrene. Some pre-assembly has been done, but you can see the sprue marks as you go over them and they have that styrene ping to them. Definitely not PVC.

 LunarSol wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
Are the vehicles styrene? I thought they were just a stiffer blend of pvc still.

They're styrene. Some pre-assembly has been done, but you can see the sprue marks as you go over them and they have that styrene ping to them. Definitely not PVC.

Again, can confirm. I've been sniffing glue, I mean, assembling models and scale kits for over 30 years and yes, the Legion vehicles are made of the good stuff.

There are a select few exceptions to this, like the handles on the speeder bikes which come attached to the rider's arm and are thus the same PVC the rider is made of, or the AT-RT's right handle which matches the left one that the rider is holding on to. I think the speeder bikes have a satchel or bedroll for decorating the back that is also PVC, but it's been a while and I don't remember all that well.

The AT-ST is completely plastic if I remember, since it doesn't have crew.

Fantasy Flight is decidedly going in the right direction with the new Clone Wars stuff. Destroyers on sprue are a lovely sight.

It might be wishful thinking but the clone troopers look a bit smaller than stormtroopers.

What size are the legion bases?

The standard infantry base is 25mm across the top and 27mm at the bottom (since the base edge is inclined and pretty tall). I think they are marketed as 27mm bases by FFG.

Watched through the Q&A again was surprised to hear that they plan on rereleasing pretty much everything in HIPS on sprues but the Clone Troopers and Obi from the new core are the old material (ABS/PVC?).

The game’s been pretty much totally dead here for some months now. I wonder if this might respark interest, both in having new stuff, and having more than just two sides to choose from. I know I personally am interested in the droids.

 AduroT wrote:
The game’s been pretty much totally dead here for some months now. I wonder if this might respark interest, both in having new stuff, and having more than just two sides to choose from. I know I personally am interested in the droids.

It seems to be doing well enough that FFG promised "years of stuff" during the reveal. I don't think I've ever seen FFG commit to that kind of product line length in advance... ever. Maybe X-Wing. Since the game isn't up in heaven with RuneWars, people must be playing it - maybe Legion is more played in dens and garages than gaming stores?

Its all down to local metas but I just get the feeling that so much of it is sold to people who just collect starwars stuff and never think of using it

(as opposed to real wargamers who buy stuff, think of using it and then stick it in a cupboard for a few years)

or for people buying gifts for starwars fans

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Its all down to local metas but I just get the feeling that so much of it is sold to people who just collect starwars stuff and never think of using it

(as opposed to real wargamers who buy stuff, think of using it and then stick it in a cupboard for a few years)

or for people buying gifts for starwars fans

I notice there are a good number of folks who do that as well, I hate X-wing, but I buy the ships for RPG as well as pieces from armada and legion, though I dont collect legion I do play it with freinds. Star Wars is a juggernaught of an IP.

I wished they had done this back before Disney bought starwars. The dark horse comics would have given so much materials for models specially for the separatist side like Dirge and all the dark jedi Dooku got on his side.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Its all down to local metas but I just get the feeling that so much of it is sold to people who just collect starwars stuff and never think of using it

I feel like this is a bit dismissive to Legion players. There's a lot of miniature games out there that I don't think I've ever seen people talk about playing (buying, sure, but not playing). To Legion's credit, I see people talking about the game all the time. I see more Legion chatter than Age of Sigmar - and I actively seek out Age of Sigmar discussions.

(as opposed to real wargamers who buy stuff, think of using it and then stick it in a cupboard for a few years)

I'd been hiding bits and pieces of my Pile of Shame around my house and I decided to put it all on the bed - it was higher than my head and took up the whole bed and two side tables. There's probably a thousand miniatures in that pile... Even if Legion players were just buying the models to collect, I'm not sure I can throw any stones from my glass house...

 ingtaer wrote:
Watched through the Q&A again was surprised to hear that they plan on rereleasing pretty much everything in HIPS on sprues but the Clone Troopers and Obi from the new core are the old material (ABS/PVC?).

Anyone got a link to this Q&A? If thats the case it took some wind out of my excitement. Seeems odd to have a mix of both materials in one box. The clone troopers aren't going to be as nice if that's the case. Seems like a bad way to start off a new faction especially when most of the stuff moving past that would be on sprues.

 Thargrim wrote:

Anyone got a link to this Q&A? If thats the case it took some wind out of my excitement. Seeems odd to have a mix of both materials in one box. The clone troopers aren't going to be as nice if that's the case. Seems like a bad way to start off a new faction especially when most of the stuff moving past that would be on sprues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxo9cZDwWRo

It's really hard to hear in places. But they said that the next couple waves of Clone Wars would be PVC, but after that, it should all be on plastic frames - and then they'll go back and rerelease the old stuff on frames too. My impression is that we're at least a year away from mostly on-sprue new releases and probably two or more years away from an entirely polystyrene catalogue - and the game needs these factions sooner than later.

As someone who doesn't own Legion, especially because I was wary of the boardgame plastic of the figures (because I'd want to paint them), the hard plastic nature of Clone Wars (at least as far as non-clones goes) has me interested.

Especially as even sticking with canon colors would see Clones look more interesting than Stormtroopers as they would feature more color.

 Sqorgar wrote:

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Its all down to local metas but I just get the feeling that so much of it is sold to people who just collect starwars stuff and never think of using it

I feel like this is a bit dismissive to Legion players. There's a lot of miniature games out there that I don't think I've ever seen people talk about playing (buying, sure, but not playing). To Legion's credit, I see people talking about the game all the time. I see more Legion chatter than Age of Sigmar - and I actively seek out Age of Sigmar discussions.

(as opposed to real wargamers who buy stuff, think of using it and then stick it in a cupboard for a few years)

I'd been hiding bits and pieces of my Pile of Shame around my house and I decided to put it all on the bed - it was higher than my head and took up the whole bed and two side tables. There's probably a thousand miniatures in that pile... Even if Legion players were just buying the models to collect, I'm not sure I can throw any stones from my glass house...

Not intending to be dismissive, as I say what gets played locally is very much down to the meta and whether you have friends who play certain games, I just mean that for a big game (compared to many games out there) i'm just not seeing the activity I'd expect to see unlike say warmachine in it's heyday which nobody round me was playing either but it was clear it was being played extensively elsewhere

and my guess as to why is it's selling to people who aren't the typical wargamer player or wargaming painter/collector

 Sqorgar wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:

Anyone got a link to this Q&A? If thats the case it took some wind out of my excitement. Seeems odd to have a mix of both materials in one box. The clone troopers aren't going to be as nice if that's the case. Seems like a bad way to start off a new faction especially when most of the stuff moving past that would be on sprues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxo9cZDwWRo

It's really hard to hear in places. But they said that the next couple waves of Clone Wars would be PVC, but after that, it should all be on plastic frames - and then they'll go back and rerelease the old stuff on frames too. My impression is that we're at least a year away from mostly on-sprue new releases and probably two or more years away from an entirely polystyrene catalogue - and the game needs these factions sooner than later.

Yeah that's a bummer. I'm not sure I want to start a clone army on release then, and then a year or less later they've got a range of better sculpts for other things. All this does is make we want to sit back and wait even longer. But whatever, i'm just gonna have to think on this a while. Paint doesn't seem to stick to the PVC plastic very well, it's almost like using primer on resin, the bond isn't as strong. I try washing the mold release shiny stuff off them but it didn't do much good. I don't think plastic glue/cement works on them either. So when new players pick up the clone wars set and a tube of plastic glue they'll be like wtf trying to glue those clones together.

 Thargrim wrote:

Yeah that's a bummer. I'm not sure I want to start a clone army on release then, and then a year or less later they've got a range of better sculpts for other things. All this does is make we want to sit back and wait even longer. But whatever, i'm just gonna have to think on this a while. Paint doesn't seem to stick to the PVC plastic very well, it's almost like using primer on resin, the bond isn't as strong. I try washing the mold release shiny stuff off them but it didn't do much good. I don't think plastic glue/cement works on them either. So when new players pick up the clone wars set and a tube of plastic glue they'll be like wtf trying to glue those clones together.

As far as the PVC goes, the sculpts are pretty good, they hold paint well enough (at least, my RuneWars figures do), and are only two or three pieces to super glue. Personally, most units in Legion can be found for $20, so even if they release better versions of a unit two years later, I wouldn't feel particularly put out, financially.

As an ex-RuneWars player and someone with a chip on my shoulder concerning FFG, I feel like there are plenty of reasons to be wary of Legion. I don't think the PVC models are one of them though.

Of course, the real question now is.. new Imperial Assault Clone Wars core box to follow?

 Siygess wrote:
Of course, the real question now is.. new Imperial Assault Clone Wars core box to follow?

As an Imperial Assault collector (and occasional player), your guess is as good as mine - one of the people from the IA area of the FFG board was in that session, and asked if there was any news for IA, only to be told that none of the people on the panel were involved with that game...

I really hope the clones aren't in bendy plastic. That would make no sense and be a real downer. Hopefully there have been some crossed wires and all in hard plastic.

Definitely not crossed wires, it was clearly stated (though I suppose the devs could have been wrong). Makes it sound like they will be released in HIPS later on down the line.

On IA, I very much fear it is dead gone and just like Runewars, but the news that stuff for Armada is still happening keeps a slim hope alive.

 ingtaer wrote:
Definitely not crossed wires, it was clearly stated (though I suppose the devs could have been wrong). Makes it sound like they will be released in HIPS later on down the line.

On IA, I very much fear it is dead gone and just like Runewars, but the news that stuff for Armada is still happening keeps a slim hope alive.

If the (rather excellent) Legends of the Alliance co-op app had featured paid-for content then I would share that sentiment. However, they have released the Jabba's Realm and Return to Hoth campaigns for free (the latter being quite recent) and the only reason I can think of that FFG would do this is to give people a continued reason to buy the existing IA content as it goes through reprint cycles. If they were winding down and just looking to empty their warehouses of the remaining IA stock, the development of the app and the two additional campaigns would seem like an unnecessary expense.

So while there is indeed no news, I am very much hoping for an Inperial Assault 2.0 launched as a clone wars era product

In fact I wouldn't be all that surprised if it was entirely app driven like the upcomming LotR game.

Lets hope so, Celebrations (11-15 April) have a campaign on every single day but the main thing will be the seminar on the Saturday. We know already x-wing is getting wave 5 announced so hopefully some can ask in the Q&A if there is news (beyond new maps) for IA if they do not announce anything.

The release plan for this now seems really muddled. Why release the clones in PVC if they are already saying hips versions are coming. How many people will hold off buying in until the objectively better versions come out. That leaves the game with 1 faction, droids, which will kill sales.
When it was first announced I figured I'd get 2-3 starter sets, but the clones being PVC means I'll only get 1.

Had to go back and check to make sure I wasn't make things up (21mins in);

 Tamereth wrote:
The release plan for this now seems really muddled. Why release the clones in PVC if they are already saying hips versions are coming.

I would suspect because it lets them release everything a year or two earlier than they would have otherwise had to wait to get everything made in HIPS.

Hrmmm, I hope the B1 Droids will be sold separately. I need the arms from them, and possibly the lower leg and torso. They look good though, and proportionally in scale as well, which is great.

 Fenriswulf wrote:
Hrmmm, I hope the B1 Droids will be sold separately. I need the arms from them, and possibly the lower leg and torso. They look good though, and proportionally in scale as well, which is great.

As a separate box, yep due for release same time as the new core set (Q3, 2019) priced $24.95US for 9 models. As separate sprues it is really doubtful.

Man, I should really learn to read properly. It was spelled out on page 33 and I completely missed it, thinking they were only available in the combined box itself. Gah.

In any case, thank you. I will keep an eye out for how the miniatures turn out. Hoping for open palm left hands so I can do gun conversions easier, but I don't know if that will be an option or not.