Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Considering how many Clone Wars episodes revolved around getting to an escape pod and/or its occupants I don't see why having a model and scenario cards for it is a problem.

In less old news (the escape pod was announced 2 months ago), they released rules for smaller games on a 3x3. Looks kind of interesting at least.

Complaining about the release of 2 iconic characters (the only 2 to be in all 8 main Saga movies) and a terrain piece is a bit odd. Makes more sense for them to be on the field than Palpatine, and it's not like they haven't featured heavily in every single other version of a Star Wars minis game so far: they were in the original West End SWMB, the WotC CMG, and Imperial Assault. Palpatine was also in all 3 of those, so it's not like this is new ground that FFG is treading upon

Skirmish looks OK, it's basically just new scenario/setup cards and a lower cap on how many of each unit type you can field. Games are 5 rounds instead of 6. FFG has a 5 page PDF for it that includes the cards

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/11/21/shifting-strategies/

The main selling point is the 3x3 table. A lot more pick up and play capable, both in terms of where you can set up and how much terrain you need.

Oh, absolutely. I've become a HUGE fan of anything on a 3x3, I wish all skirmish games adopted that size. 3x6 might as well be a 4x6 table, and even a 4x4 might as well be a 4x6 in many cases, but a 3x3 fits really well on a non-gamer's kitchen table or coffee table. It's one of the big reasons X-Wing got so popular, non-gamers and beginner gamers could play it without building and dedicating a surface just to gaming, just throw down a neoprene mat and start a game

I'll be playing skirmish mode when I need a faster game.

Although a friend was concerned that Clones already have such a low unit count that they may be at a disadvantage in Skirmish. Looking forward to hearing from others on that.

Love me some 3x3 skirmish games. Dracula's America, the skirmish rules for Grimdark Future and/or Age of Fantasy from OnePageRules, etc.

One of my new terms came from Ash from Guerilla Miniatures calling them "Kitchen Table Games".

Since this thread hasn't been updated yet by anyone who's been paying more attention than me, looks like we get Cassian Andor and his droid pal along with an Imperial dudette I've never heard of before.

Is that an Imperial pilot suit? Because I wanted on of those.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2019/12/12/covert-ops/

The Imperial character is the protagonist of Star Wars Battlefront 2; not quite niche given the infamy that title garnered with its "surprise mechanics", but not something that films-only fans would be aware of for sure.

Thanks for the info. I think I may be 20 years behind on Star Wars video games...

Does she have a special rule where after the first turn she immediately switches sides and joins the Rebels for the rest of the game?

Awww, a "Hero and their droid sidekick" expansion.

I haven't played the game she's in, but what I have seen of cutscenes and gameplay, he's a cool little sidekick.

 Geifer wrote:
Thanks for the info. I think I may be 20 years behind on Star Wars video games...

That's about the last time anything meaningful was released.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Does she have a special rule where after the first turn she immediately switches sides and joins the Rebels for the rest of the game?

Have you checked her Italian unit card?



I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

 LunarSol wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Thanks for the info. I think I may be 20 years behind on Star Wars video games...

That's about the last time anything meaningful was released.

Hehe. I hope not. I recently bought an RTS on GOG from who knows how many years back which may or may not be a reskinned Age of Empires, but hey, as long as I get big stompy AT-ATs I'm happy.

 Geifer wrote:

I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

Yeaaaaaah...it's not exactly "instant".

There's a lot I could say but a decency of not wanting to spoil things makes me avoid it.

Just know that right now, they've relaunched the game with an "Ultimate Celebration Edition" but if you wanted to play just the campaign you can probably nab an original copy for $10-$15.

I caved in and picked up a box of each.
Stormtroopers and the OG Ship crew from the first movie...

I'll probably get in on the big game later next year.

I'm pretty impressed by the sculpts. And it's great to see the game getting some of the good stuff of the EU. Hope to see some bounty hunters, Jabba aliens, and some of the pilot expansions, so I can go on ahead and put out some pilot rescues, and additional Air cover scenarios.

My biggest problem with these Star Wars games is that as fast as I get in on them, they die a quick and horrible death, only to end up in bargain bins everywhere as everyone jumps ship and moves on to the next lickie and chewie.

 Grot 6 wrote:
I caved in and picked up a box of each.
Stormtroopers and the OG Ship crew from the first movie...

I'll probably get in on the big game later next year.

I'm pretty impressed by the sculpts. And it's great to see the game getting some of the good stuff of the EU. Hope to see some bounty hunters, Jabba aliens, and some of the pilot expansions, so I can go on ahead and put out some pilot rescues, and additional Air cover scenarios.

My biggest problem with these Star Wars games is that as fast as I get in on them, they die a quick and horrible death, only to end up in bargain bins everywhere as everyone jumps ship and moves on to the next lickie and chewie.

Considering Legion was released in first quarter of 18 and still growing both in demand and with support I don't see it ending up in the bargain bins, that was the thought of people during the first year but it is hard to find units at times because they sell out pretty good. The game play is pretty solid and growing, they got some kinks they gotta work out to make vehicles more competitive but for causal play it is all good. Legion I am actually liking better then 40k as units are far cheaper and the game play is just as fun.

 Geifer wrote:
Have you checked her Italian unit card?



I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

Wait... what? I was kidding. She doesn't actually change sides like in BFII, does she?

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Have you checked her Italian unit card?



I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

Wait... what? I was kidding. She doesn't actually change sides like in BFII, does she?

She changes sides like 3 missions in.

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Have you checked her Italian unit card?



I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

Wait... what? I was kidding. She doesn't actually change sides like in BFII, does she?

She changes sides like 3 missions in.

He means in Legion.

Don't play the game, but I do really like the K-2SO mini. Does he come with a special snark rule?

Cassian and K2SO look great but I'm not sold on Iden, her head looks as big as her torso from that angle.

If the video games are being included as well though I hope that means purge troopers will show up at some point. Love their design!

i find it really strange & annoying that they don't seem to do many pictures of the models in their shop.

not a rebel supporter in the least.. hell i dont even play the game. But i will be picking up andor and k2so!

I want to see the sculpts first. It took that to get me to spend on the Stormtroopers and Ship crew.

 Commander Cain wrote:
Cassian and K2SO look great but I'm not sold on Iden, her head looks as big as her torso from that angle.

It's not quite that bad, but FFG certainly does use heroic scale for Legion. I'm currently painting Sabine Wren and she's the same. I generally like Legion models with helmets better (but didn't give Sabine hers because of her funky dyed hair ).

That said, I find it's less of a problem once there's paint on the models that gives them depth and distracts from the physical dimensions. Works for me, anyway.

 bubber wrote:
i find it really strange & annoying that they don't seem to do many pictures of the models in their shop.

Yeah. Guess they're all about the content of the games and not so much about the artistic side that comes with having miniatures. They could definitely improve on that. Especially since the Legion models aren't bad if you can get on board with the style. If I didn't play Legion I might have still bought a couple of models just to paint.

 Geifer wrote:

 Commander Cain wrote:
Cassian and K2SO look great but I'm not sold on Iden, her head looks as big as her torso from that angle.

It's not quite that bad, but FFG certainly does use heroic scale for Legion. I'm currently painting Sabine Wren and she's the same. I generally like Legion models with helmets better (but didn't give Sabine hers because of her funky dyed hair ).

That said, I find it's less of a problem once there's paint on the models that gives them depth and distracts from the physical dimensions. Works for me, anyway.

 bubber wrote:
i find it really strange & annoying that they don't seem to do many pictures of the models in their shop.

Yeah. Guess they're all about the content of the games and not so much about the artistic side that comes with having miniatures. They could definitely improve on that. Especially since the Legion models aren't bad if you can get on board with the style. If I didn't play Legion I might have still bought a couple of models just to paint.

good to know - thanks

 ImAGeek wrote:

 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Have you checked her Italian unit card?



I see, it's that kind of game. I guess it's not surprising. Can't have Imperial heroes now, can we?

Wait... what? I was kidding. She doesn't actually change sides like in BFII, does she?

She changes sides like 3 missions in.

He means in Legion.

So he does, eyes must have been glazed over.

New CW-era expansions previewed:

- Padme





- ARC Troopers





- Cad Bane





- Commando Droids









Automatically Appended Next Post:
FFG articles:

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2020/2/11/to-the-limit/

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2020/2/11/special-agents/

So much win.

How I wish these were in a sensible scale. Although I may still wind up picking up some of those droids for non-Star Wars purposes, where the scale won't matter.