Necromunda Underhive - House of Chains Pg272

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**Todosi**

It would be great if they kept all the Necromunda downloads in one place, like on the Necromunda homepage for instance. Having to dig through the bowels of Warhammer Community is not the easiest at times.

**Sabotage!**

Thargrim wrote:
The big difference in the orlocks is simply more detail, and uniformity. But the concept is more or less still the same. Van Saar seems the most divergent, the old ones had a more modern military vibe. I'm okay with Delaque having a fresh look so long as it makes sense. The old ones had wonky monkey heads I hope they turn out less cartoony and more gritty noir-ish style.

Van Saar are definitely the most changed from the original in my book (and the new concept look leagues better than the old in my opinion). I may be one of few, but I really hope the new Delaque look like the new concept art. I agree the old ones looked pretty silly, especially the ones that didn't have shirts under their trenchcoats. A tech-noir/cyberpunk/dark city vibe would be much more interesting in my opinion.

**angel of death 007**

I just wish the female Van Saar looked well more feminine.

**Thargrim**

angel of death 007 wrote:
I just wish the female Van Saar looked well more feminine.

I kinda wish the same, there is good art of female van saar in the book but it didn't translate to the model very well. Oh well though...not much can be done about it now, a good paintjob can almost save it, or just use a helmeted head. But the helmeted heads have the male slicked back hair where the coil meets the head. It's a good kit but falls a bit short of greatness...but that is moreso because they couldn't do two sprues instead of one.
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**Chopstick**

Thargrim wrote:

I kinda wish the same, there is good art of female van saar in the book but it didn't translate to the model very well. Oh well though...not much can be done about it now, a good paintjob can almost save it, or just use a helmeted head. But the helmeted heads have the male slicked back hair where the coil meets the head. It's a good kit but falls a bit short of greatness...but that is moreso because they couldn't do two sprues instead of one.
'

They only had space for 1 female head and they chose the laziest one possible. And they also had smaller arms. And the pose is really bad.

**DaveC**

Kria the Huntress

Fresh from the amniotic tanks of House Escher’s alchymyst fleshteks, the death-maiden known as Kria the Huntress will soon be turning the Necromundan underhive into her own personal hunting ground. She serves as one of the matriarch council’s top enforcers, fighting at their sole discretion alongside other Escher Gangs (though a suitably generous bribe will certainly aid any request for her intervention as a Bounty Hunter).

Kria is equally deadly whether sniping prey through the telescopic sight of her long las or duelling with her stylised autopistol and long knives. She has even been known to cut her own flesh in order to lace the blades of her knives with her toxic blood!

Kria the Huntress will be available to pre-order from this Friday.

**Sqorgar**

Great paint job... everywhere but the face.

**Clockpunk**

Chopstick wrote:
Thargrim wrote:

I kinda wish the same, there is good art of female van saar in the book but it didn't translate to the model very well. Oh well though...not much can be done about it now, a good paintjob can almost save it, or just use a helmeted head. But the helmeted heads have the male slicked back hair where the coil meets the head. It's a good kit but falls a bit short of greatness...but that is moreso because they couldn't do two sprues instead of one.
'

They only had space for 1 female head and they chose the laziest one possible. And they also had smaller arms. And the pose is really bad.

I ended uo doing a small conversion with the female Stormcast Sequitor unhelmeted head form the easy to build trio (shved sides, long top, wnding with a knot where the mechatendril ttaches nicely). Whilst not quite as gaunt as I woukd have liked for Van Saar, still a pretty good fit with the unhelmeted male heads.

**lord_blackfang**

Sqorgar wrote:
Great paint job... everywhere but the face.

As is tradition.

**ph34r**

That face is really terrible.

**H.B.M.C.**

No hooded Cawdor executioner?

**Thargrim**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
No hooded Cawdor executioner?

Funny you mention that cause they deleted all trace of it on the community site and sculptors/painters instagrams. I won't go into the reasons why cause last time it caused quite a discussion but that sculpt may or may not see the light of day. Besides, they've been teasing this escher sculpt way before cawdor released so any cawdor heroes are a ways off. Even van saar doesn't have any characters yet.

**Chopstick**

Clockpunk wrote:

I ended uo doing a small conversion with the female Stormcast Sequitor unhelmeted head form the easy to build trio (shved sides, long top, wnding with a knot where the mechatendril ttaches nicely). Whilst not quite as gaunt as I woukd have liked for Van Saar, still a pretty good fit with the unhelmeted male heads.

The Stormcast head is about 10-20% is bigger than the ganger head, and the Female Van saar is noticeably smaller than the other.

**Clockpunk**

Chopstick wrote:
Clockpunk wrote:

I ended uo doing a small conversion with the female Stormcast Sequitor unhelmeted head form the easy to build trio (shved sides, long top, wnding with a knot where the mechatendril ttaches nicely). Whilst not quite as gaunt as I woukd have liked for Van Saar, still a pretty good fit with the unhelmeted male heads.

The Stormcast head is about 10-20% is bigger than the ganger head, and the Female Van saar is noticeably smaller than the other.

Not at all - I feared that might have been the case until I actually came to attaching it to the model. Required a little cutting away of the neck guard, but the proportions work pretty damn nicely.

**Insane Ivan**

Clockpunk wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
Clockpunk wrote:

I ended uo doing a small conversion with the female Stormcast Sequitor unhelmeted head form the easy to build trio (shved sides, long top, wnding with a knot where the mechatendril ttaches nicely). Whilst not quite as gaunt as I woukd have liked for Van Saar, still a pretty good fit with the unhelmeted male heads.

The Stormcast head is about 10-20% is bigger than the ganger head, and the Female Van saar is noticeably smaller than the other.

Not at all - I feared that might have been the case until I actually came to attaching it to the model. Required a little cutting away of the neck guard, but the proportions work pretty damn nicely.

Might we ask for pics?

**Clockpunk**

Insane Ivan wrote:
Clockpunk wrote:
Chopstick wrote:
Clockpunk wrote:

I ended uo doing a small conversion with the female Stormcast Sequitor unhelmeted head form the easy to build trio (shved sides, long top, wnding with a knot where the mechatendril ttaches nicely). Whilst not quite as gaunt as I woukd have liked for Van Saar, still a pretty good fit with the unhelmeted male heads.

The Stormcast head is about 10-20% is bigger than the ganger head, and the Female Van saar is noticeably smaller than the other.

Not at all - I feared that might have been the case until I actually came to attaching it to the model. Required a little cutting away of the neck guard, but the proportions work pretty damn nicely.

Might we ask for pics?

Of course (the two are unarmed as I am awaiting the FW upgrade kit - she is planned to be my grav gun specialist!) :

**Insane Ivan**

That looks pretty good, Clockpunk! The heads certainly seems to fit well, and seems perfectly to scale to me. Also looks definitely better than the female head that comes with the kit.

**BrookM**

On preorder now: https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Kria-The-Huntress-House-Escher-Bounty-Hunter-2018

**Clockpunk**

Ah, pleased as I am Kria is now available (although I do think she looks better in the artwork holding a knife in her right hand rather than an autopistol), I had half-hoped the Cawdor weapon sets might also see release this week - as soon as they do, that's me eligible for free shipping with what I plan to order, haha!

**Chopstick**

Clockpunk wrote:
Ah, pleased as I am Kria is now available (although I do think she looks better in the artwork holding a knife in her right hand rather than an autopistol),

Different person

**Clockpunk**

Pedantic much?

The similiarities are much more apparent than the differences.

**Albertorius**

Clockpunk wrote:
Pedantic much?

The similiarities are much more apparent than the differences.

Well, yes and no...

Yes, it is very similar as it seems to be a colored and tweaked version of the original.

No, in the sense that there is actually an original pic with that exact pose and weapons, and called Kria the Huntress...

Spoiler:

**H.B.M.C.**

So... the Cult Icon that GSC can get. Where are the rules for that?

**Chopstick**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... the Cult Icon that GSC can get. Where are the rules for that?

WD, or gang war 4

Anyway, they're the same as Cawdor Cult Icon, They're all cult icon, you get one extra activation. Good thing GSC had multiple arm so they can spare a hand to grab the cult icon. For cawdor, meh, just kitbash I guess,

Ork is way too smart to put item like Boss pole/icon on back, not holding it in your hand.

**Baxx**

I thought the Cawdor box included a cult icon?

**Haighus**

Chopstick wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
So... the Cult Icon that GSC can get. Where are the rules for that?

WD, or gang war 4

Anyway, they're the same as Cawdor Cult Icon, They're all cult icon, you get one extra activation. Good thing GSC had multiple arm so they can spare a hand to grab the cult icon. For cawdor, meh, just kitbash I guess,

Ork is way too smart to put item like Boss pole/icon on back, not holding it in your hand.

Having it attached to your back would make moving through doorways and tunnels much more difficult, and liable to catch running under gantries etc. Necromunda is set in a hive, so there is a logic to carrying the thing.

**Chopstick**

Haighus wrote:

Having it attached to your back would make moving through doorways and tunnels much more difficult, and liable to catch running under gantries etc. Necromunda is set in a hive, so there is a logic to carrying the thing.

If you take it that far the pole could be retractable into nothing more than a backpack, and even fully extend, i doubt people would be bigger than...an ambull, an arnachid rig, or a berserker, and people find a way to bring them in. Or they just simply remove the pole from back and carry them in tight place, just like how they had to drop the pole, or hang it to the back to use their other weapon anyway.

This wouldn't be a problem if the cult icon also double as a melee weapon, or an upgrade to a melee weapon.

**Haighus**

Chopstick wrote:
Haighus wrote:

Having it attached to your back would make moving through doorways and tunnels much more difficult, and liable to catch running under gantries etc. Necromunda is set in a hive, so there is a logic to carrying the thing.

If you take it that far the pole could be retractable into nothing more than a backpack, and even fully extend, i doubt people would be bigger than...an ambull, an arnachid rig, or a berserker, and people find a way to bring them in. So I found not holding a weapon in your hand a bigger problems.

This wouldn't be a problem if the cult icon also double as a melee weapon, or an upgrade to a melee weapon.

True, but then, the big guys can often just smash through the wall

Retractable pole seems a bit too sophisticated for the Cawdor equipment.

**Chopstick**

Haighus wrote:

If you take it that far the pole could be retractable into nothing more than a backpack, and even fully extend, i doubt people would be bigger than...an ambull, an arnachid rig, or a berserker, and people find a way to bring them in. So I found not holding a weapon in your hand a bigger problems.
Retractable pole seems a bit too sophisticated for the Cawdor equipment.

Well edited my comment but anyway they would eventually have to drop the cult to use their other weapon (that they hang on their back), or hang the icon on their back.

Cult Icon is not Cawdor exclusive, other cult like Chaos or GS also had them. Retractable stick isn't exactly something too fancy (they're like a few pipes with different diameter put together) considered they also make the spear gun, and the exploside crossbow, and multiple flamer weaponry, or it could be a simple pole that could fold in half.

**DaveC**

The Sumpkroc is coming soon

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/15/forge-world-preview-the-sumpkroc/