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Chaos cults and gsc aren't in the book because they are not the final form of those gangs. The warhammer community page had an interview where they said that reason

angel of death 007 wrote:

It is the main reason I will probably only get the rulebook and skip the Gangs book entirely atleast to keep some shred of sanity at the rate GW keeps invalidating its previous publications I am surprised the ink is even dry.

That's why these 2 books are so important. We get a solid foundation that future expansions can expand upon, instead of invalidate! The state we'll be in after this complete rules reset is similar to the original Necromunda. A basis for core rule mechanics and 6 house gangs.

Just in case folk hadn't guessed if you want a paper copy of the stand alone Delaque stuff you want the December issue of WD

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/30/30th-nov-white-dwarf-preview-decembers-issuegw-homepage-post-4/

ok, so, correct me if I'm wrong here...

1) There wont be a Gang War 5.

2) Hardback books go up for preorder tomorrow.

3) Delaque gang rules are included in the new compilation books.

4) Delaque gang presumably goes up for preorder tomrrow as well.

5) If someone wants the Delaque gang rules, but don't want the hardbacks, they need to buy December White Dwarf.

These new books better have a comprehensive index of terms and rules with page references!

So here's an interesting thought.

Will the WD Delaque follow the original format or the updated format, which would make them useless to owners of the old books (and, obviously, redundant to owners of the compendium).

 lord_blackfang wrote:
So here's an interesting thought.
Will the WD Delaque follow the original format or the updated format, which would make them useless to owners of the old books (and, obviously, redundant to owners of the compendium).

Or some random third format since no gang material has been released in a slim, standalone book, and who knows what production team worked on it. Fun!

Any eta on the resin cawdor weapons? Seems like those take forever to get released. Sucks for people starting Delaque as well cause theirs probably won't be out till march or something crazy.

Going by the New Zealand site the slipcase edition is the same price as both books together £55 $110 and is limited to 1200 copies - not sure if that's a regional limit or overall but expect it to go fast.

Delaque Sprue

Looking at them properly I love them even more...but it's still really disappointing there are no options for having any of the rifle weapons held two-handed or aimed. Even the warband's signature "heavy" gun is just slung on a back-carrier :/

I'd say I hope the FW set will fix it, but A; I'm not sure if they do different poses, or just the existing arms with different guns swapped on? and B; they probably won't have room in the kits once you count all the hand flamers...

EDIT: I will say though - it's a fantastic touch that the heaviest armour panels on their battle-trenchcoats is on the back

 DaveC wrote:
Going by the New Zealand site the slipcase edition is the same price as both books together £55 $110 and is limited to 1200 copies - not sure if that's a regional limit or overall but expect it to go fast.

Weird that they took the pic of the BACK of the slipcase edition. The artwork shown on the books does not appear on the front of the books, so those must be the backs of the books.

That gang price is shocking... The "colonial" tax in the US for a Necromunda gang is 57% (20£ (non-VAT) to $40). The "colonial" tax in NZ for a Necromunda gang is 90% (20 pounds to $70.55-both prices shown without their respective VATs).

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They're really excellent looking miniatures with some really cool weapon designs. Is the web thing like a web gauntlet? I can't really make out what it is.

I also wish the GW website listed the weapons that are in there. It's hard to tell what most things are.

Still look nothing like Delaques, but they're very pretty.

The ranged weapons seem to be:
1 long rifle
1 suppressed autogun
1 shotgun
1 flechette blaster
3 suppressed autopistols
1 hand flamer
1 laspistol
1 grav pistol
2 suppressed pistols that are subtly different to the autopistols. Flechette pistols perhaps?
1 holstered pistol

The stub pistols look kinda like the autopistols. The web gauntlet is cool though, hopefully the resin fw kit has one actually on the arm and in use. The resin heavy flamer was already confirmed. Do delaques get regular lasguns on their house list? I'm inclined to think not.

I think with a little converseion work you could actually swap around alot of those torsos so not all the girls will be hunched. I find the necromunda kits actually chop up and convert quite well, managed to make crouching escher and cawdor from the kits for pose variety, as well as some stepping up onto objects poses with some smart cutting at the knee joints. Delaque will likely be toughest, though if you are good with green stuff you could likely open up the coats. In fact the way some of the coats appear to go together you could likely easily cut back into them, or bend the bottom halves should you want more underneath shown.

Biggest bumber is I think rifle is in a full bag/holster so cant really be converted easily to be being held though if the guns are modular you might be able to reconstruct it with the barrel from the sniper, Shotgun looks like best piece to do this with.

So there are ebook versions of the Necromunda books finally which is good news, especially as the ebook are much cheaper here. Pricing is bizarre though. Physical rulebook €8100, ebook ¥4800, physical gangs book ¥6900, ebook ¥5800! What's up with that?

I found it unusual that you get a discount for buying the limited slipcase edition. In Aus I ordered it for only $180, while if I ordered the new rule book ($98) and the Gangs of the Underhive ($84) individually it would have been $182. Most times it would have been the same price or a little more, so I was happy about that. I also thought it was gunna be around $200 (looking at the NZ this morning and comparing to Aud) so was happy with the $180 price point.

There are ePub3 version for download next week.
Since I have the paper books, I'll print the relevant pages out of those.
https://www.warhammerdigital.com/all-products/necromunda-rulebook-epub-2018.html
£5 cheaper per book.

Also, the epub versions are below the exchange rate in NZ.


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Spectral Ceramite wrote:
I found it unusual that you get a discount for buying the limited slipcase edition. In Aus I ordered it for only $180, while if I ordered the new rule book ($98) and the Gangs of the Underhive ($84) individually it would have been $182. Most times it would have been the same price or a little more, so I was happy about that. I also thought it was gunna be around $200 (looking at the NZ this morning and comparing to Aud) so was happy with the $180 price point.

I was expecting that; wasn't sure why most people seemed to think otherwise. Most of their book bundle deals work out a little cheaper than buying them all separately. You're doing better than us in the UK, where the slipcase edition is the same price as both books individually.

 Yodhrin wrote:
Looking at them properly I love them even more...but it's still really disappointing there are no options for having any of the rifle weapons held two-handed or aimed. Even the warband's signature "heavy" gun is just slung on a back-carrier :/

I'd say I hope the FW set will fix it, but A; I'm not sure if they do different poses, or just the existing arms with different guns swapped on? and B; they probably won't have room in the kits once you count all the hand flamers...

EDIT: I will say though - it's a fantastic touch that the heaviest armour panels on their battle-trenchcoats is on the back

And most long guns are in holsters The perfect covered-ops design for Imperial guns and they're covered up. Cutting arms up or swap them for shooting poses is easier, so if FW gives a decent selection of guns I will actually buy something from them, postage be damned.

The poses make me think that at least on of FW's designers doesn't believe shooting poses are worth it, Cawdor has basically zero (unless you count slightly-levelled-pistol as shooting) and Delaque are not better. Grenade throwing and showing your new gear is cool and all, but it wouldn't hurt to have someone actually shooting, would it. At least reposing arms is easier than resculpting gun bodies.

Overall I have to say I really like their look and will get them, but as a kit it is kinda bad. I hope FW will do a second sprue per gang one day for juvies and more options for the existibg gangers.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Also, the epub versions are below the exchange rate in NZ.


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Spectral Ceramite wrote:
I found it unusual that you get a discount for buying the limited slipcase edition. In Aus I ordered it for only $180, while if I ordered the new rule book ($98) and the Gangs of the Underhive ($84) individually it would have been $182. Most times it would have been the same price or a little more, so I was happy about that. I also thought it was gunna be around $200 (looking at the NZ this morning and comparing to Aud) so was happy with the $180 price point.

I was expecting that; wasn't sure why most people seemed to think otherwise. Most of their book bundle deals work out a little cheaper than buying them all separately. You're doing better than us in the UK, where the slipcase edition is the same price as both books individually.

Ye I Look at NZ price point first cause is first released on the day of release for pre-orders (unless someone else says their country is first).

The consolidated book deal has not been like that in Aus ever. Is always same cost or $1 or $2 more expensive (obviously special additions are double the cost).

EDIT: I personally think Necromunda isn't selling as well as hoped so projecting it at a lower sales point (though the Delaque/cards and dice still cost me the same as other gangs)

 Skinnereal wrote:
There are ePub3 version for download next week.
Since I have the paper books, I'll print the relevant pages out of those.
https://www.warhammerdigital.com/all-products/necromunda-rulebook-epub-2018.html
£5 cheaper per book.

Excellent! The lack of digital books for this game had vastly annoyed me previously.

Spectral Ceramite wrote:


The consolidated book deal has not been like that in Aus ever. Is always same cost or $1 or $2 more expensive (obviously special additions are double the cost).

EDIT: I personally think Necromunda isn't selling as well as hoped so projecting it at a lower sales point (though the Delaque/cards and dice still cost me the same as other gangs)

I just looked at the Australian prices for the Horus Heresy books; all the bundle deals there are cheaper than the cost of the individual books (for example, HH black books 1, 2, 3 are 180, 180,180 AUD. The bundle of three is 390 rather than 550).

To be honest, the fact that the Necromunda bundle costs less in Australia rather than being the same price is just an artefact of their price conversion.

On the topic of the sprues, am I seeing things or is that a grav-pistol in there?
Part 75, middle-right of DaveC’s picture…

 AduroT wrote:

 Skinnereal wrote:
There are ePub3 version for download next week.
Since I have the paper books, I'll print the relevant pages out of those.
https://www.warhammerdigital.com/all-products/necromunda-rulebook-epub-2018.html
£5 cheaper per book.

Excellent! The lack of digital books for this game had vastly annoyed me previously.

The use of digital books is an abomination, print is the only valid way to go. Not only is it far batter to handle and to switch back and forth but also does it conserve information much more secure - the amound of decayed data in Epubs is to damn high.

Nobody taking away your physical books

I think that was supposed to be a tongue in cheek or snarky post.

Bloodmaster wrote:

The use of digital books is an abomination, print is the only valid way to go. Not only is it far batter to handle and to switch back and forth but also does it conserve information much more secure - the amound of decayed data in Epubs is to damn high.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

Bloodmaster wrote:

The use of digital books is an abomination, print is the only valid way to go. Not only is it far batter to handle and to switch back and forth but also does it conserve information much more secure - the amound of decayed data in Epubs is to damn high.

Pfff. Chalk and paper, modern hum-buck, that stuff will never catch on. Stick to clay tablets, that stuff is far superior. Wait a sec, writing?! That is work of the wicked, only way to remember the deeds of our heroes is through oral traditions.

 Scott-S6 wrote:

Spoiler:

Read the quote before everything around it. Genuinely thought it was a 40K quote. LOL!

 Mr_Rose wrote:
On the topic of the sprues, am I seeing things or is that a grav-pistol in there?
Part 75, middle-right of DaveC’s picture…

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